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Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
June 07 2012 07:38 GMT
#3501
I just spent 100k xp on the jackal thinking it'd be fun, but it's sadly boring as shit compared to the spinfusor. Look forward to playing with your soldier spinfusor :p
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
June 07 2012 13:39 GMT
#3502
What? The jackal is OP as fuck. Thats why comp bans it.
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 15:10:04
June 07 2012 15:06 GMT
#3503
OP doesn't mean fun and interesting play though.

lolol i can 1 shot 2/3s of the armor classes with traps and ambushes and outduel every other non-PG explosive
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 00:46:13
June 08 2012 00:45 GMT
#3504
My team(hotdolphin) is playing against puppy kisses in the newbloods tournament tonight! Tribescast is covering it. We're both the only undefeated teams in the league so it should be good matches. Starts in 15 minutes. www.tribescast.com

edit: I'll be scoping btw, map pool raindance tartarus Arx
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
June 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#3505
so cool little thing happened just now on raindance
was cruising around capping. both flags were gone, but i decided to stay alive and finish my route. when i was just about to hit my flag stand the flag was returned and i hit the flag, flew up to the ceiling of the map super fast (probably like 1000kph), cratered on the ceiling and died.
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 09:49:51
June 08 2012 09:49 GMT
#3506
On June 08 2012 11:35 Binky1842 wrote:
so cool little thing happened just now on raindance
was cruising around capping. both flags were gone, but i decided to stay alive and finish my route. when i was just about to hit my flag stand the flag was returned and i hit the flag, flew up to the ceiling of the map super fast (probably like 1000kph), cratered on the ceiling and died.

standard, flag tower on rain dance has horrible issues. I once skied close to the foot of the tower and was smashed dead into the flag platform from below with 570kph or something.. Raindance is a map where you frequently see people with >1000kph skied in the after game screen, those usually bug flipped of the tower.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 11:59:22
June 08 2012 11:58 GMT
#3507
On June 08 2012 18:49 MisterD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 11:35 Binky1842 wrote:
so cool little thing happened just now on raindance
was cruising around capping. both flags were gone, but i decided to stay alive and finish my route. when i was just about to hit my flag stand the flag was returned and i hit the flag, flew up to the ceiling of the map super fast (probably like 1000kph), cratered on the ceiling and died.

standard, flag tower on rain dance has horrible issues. I once skied close to the foot of the tower and was smashed dead into the flag platform from below with 570kph or something.. Raindance is a map where you frequently see people with >1000kph skied in the after game screen, those usually bug flipped of the tower.

Relevant video:
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
June 08 2012 13:38 GMT
#3508
On June 08 2012 20:58 pettter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 18:49 MisterD wrote:
On June 08 2012 11:35 Binky1842 wrote:
so cool little thing happened just now on raindance
was cruising around capping. both flags were gone, but i decided to stay alive and finish my route. when i was just about to hit my flag stand the flag was returned and i hit the flag, flew up to the ceiling of the map super fast (probably like 1000kph), cratered on the ceiling and died.

standard, flag tower on rain dance has horrible issues. I once skied close to the foot of the tower and was smashed dead into the flag platform from below with 570kph or something.. Raindance is a map where you frequently see people with >1000kph skied in the after game screen, those usually bug flipped of the tower.

Relevant video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFw7qVqicD8

lol should practice that for when my team can't manage to kill the force fields the next time.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
June 08 2012 18:40 GMT
#3509
oh ahah, no idea that was an issue, and that it was somewhat frequent
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
Zoundsforsook
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Scotland636 Posts
June 11 2012 10:19 GMT
#3510
I've been wondering about what sort of cosmetic options they could add to Tribes for us to buy if we want since in a primarily first person shooter i'm finding skins a bit of a hard sell at the price that they are (nevermind the fact I don't play either of the classes that have skins currently very much anyway hehe)

A few thoughts i've had for a slightly cheaper than skins cosmetic options that i'd be interested in could be:
  • Unlocking different voices for the voice commands
  • Different colours for the jet trails
  • Skins for the guns themselves.
  • Perhaps different particle effects or gun noises though i'm not sure about this one, it would have to be similar enough as to not confuse gameplay

These are all things i'd be willing to spend a small amount of money on over a neutral looking skin that I don't even get to enjoy most of my playtime, sure I enjoy showing off but sometimes I like to see myself showing off you know! :p
Paint it bright and bold.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
June 11 2012 19:05 GMT
#3511
proposal i remember from TGS podcast at some time:

multi colored fractal grenade. instant millions of dollars.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Keltanokka
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Finland279 Posts
June 11 2012 20:28 GMT
#3512
Great, 27 new weapons and some c+h maps (which no one cares about). Hope these weapon variants aren't 100k each, or that would be another 2 mil xp I would need to earn to reunlock everything.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
June 11 2012 20:46 GMT
#3513
On June 08 2012 11:35 Binky1842 wrote:
so cool little thing happened just now on raindance
was cruising around capping. both flags were gone, but i decided to stay alive and finish my route. when i was just about to hit my flag stand the flag was returned and i hit the flag, flew up to the ceiling of the map super fast (probably like 1000kph), cratered on the ceiling and died.

oh my gosh that happened to me today, it was crazy
:O
Zoundsforsook
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Scotland636 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 22:18:22
June 11 2012 22:17 GMT
#3514
+ Show Spoiler +
Major Highlights

The system for upgrading weapons has been modified. Players will now automatically receive weapon upgrades as they play a particular weapon, without having to spend XP on the upgrade (allowing you to save your XP for other items). A progress bar on the weapon’s menu page will provide information as to when the next automatic upgrade occurs. If you are impatient and have excess XP, an option is still provided to immediately master an item using XP. Note that previously purchased upgrades are still owned.
27 new weapons have been added to the game, 3 for each class (details below).
Two new Capture & Hold maps have been added (Tartarus and Sulfer).


Weapon/Balance Items

27 New Weapon Variants have been added across all classes. Weapon Variants have new skins and slight statistical trade offs for the weapon they are a variant of. One weapon variant has been added for each free Primary, Secondary, and Belt item that comes with a class. Weapon variants are all unlocked between 4800xp - 18000xp.
Exception: The Titan Launcher (a variant of the Saber Launcher) is a good bit more than a statistical change.
NEW SLOT 2 PERK: The perk Lightweight has been added. Lightweight reduces your mass by 30%, creating stronger disk jumps, but more than triples the delay before health regeneration takes effect. This perk is intended for advanced chasers.
Automatics, SMGs, and Pistols:
Reduced reload time reduction upgrade from 30% to 15% on:
Soldier’s Assault Rifle
Pathfinder’s Light Assault Rifle
Technician’s TCN4
Infiltrator’s Rhino
Raider’s NJ4 SMG
Raider’s NJ5 SMG
Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol
Increased damage fall off by 5% and brought closer the range at which falloff starts on:
Infiltrator’s Rhino SMG
Technician’s TCN4 SMG
Raider’s NJ4 SMG
Raider’s NJ5 SMG
Increased damage fall off on Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol by 5%.
Reduced clip size by 2 on Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 3 on Pathfinder’s Light Assault Rifle. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 4 on Soldier’s Assault Rifle. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 6 on Infiltrator’s Rhino SMG. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 8 on Raider’s NJ4 SMG. Adjusted starting ammo.
Reduced clip size by 6 on Raider’s NJ5 SMG. Adjusted starting ammo.
Reduced damage by roughly 6% on Juggernaut’s X1 LMG.
Reduced damage by roughly 7% on Infiltrator’s Rhino SMG.
Reduced damage by roughly 6% on Raider’s NJ4 SMG.
Reduced damage by roughly 7% on Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol.

Decreased effectiveness of Raider’s Shield Pack. More energy is required to absorb each point of damage taken.
Decreased detonation time by 26% and increased radius by 3% on Brute’s Gladiator.
Increased falloff by 20% on Sentinel’s BXT1 Rifle (a nerf).
If you die as the Sentinel class, you will now incur a 5s longer respawn time, regardless of what you are respawning as. This is a fix we are still actively working on, and is intended to be improved upon over time.
Reduced the number of credits awarded for Generator Defense to 200.
Increased credit reward for killing Shrikes to 700.
Increased reward for emergency flag grabs to 500.
Increased reward for flag defense to 300.
Reduced damage on Raider’s EMP grenade by roughly 45%. Increased energy drain by roughly 113% (more than double).
Mass reduction while enraged on the Rage Perk has been reduced from 35% to 10%. Heath granted at the start of Rage increased from 25% to 50%. Note that Rage, a slot 1 perk, can stack with the new Lightweight perk.
Fixed an issue that was allowing players to flat impact walls at high speed, and instantly move 180 degrees in the opposite direction with no speed loss or damage taken. This allowed for some game breaking front-to-front routes, and created a number of other gameplay related issues.
This fix will have a heavy effect on rock-bouncing, a skill and strategy emerging from competitive games. We built in some tolerances to this fix that allow free bouncing at certain angles, and bleed less speed depending on the angle of impact. We will continue to adjust as needed. Rock bouncing is a feature we love, but the bug needed to be fixed for other extreme cases that were not to the benefit of the game.
Reduced inactive reload time from 5 to 3 seconds. Inactive reload time is how long it takes for a weapon to reload automatically when not in hand.
Slightly increased the default pickup radius for all flags.
Decreased by 20% the pickup radius bonus provided by the Reach Perk.
Reduced the grace area for the spotting command. You now have to aim closer to the intended target to trigger spot.


Additional Items

The starting points in Team Deathmatch has been raised from 100 to 125.
Fixed an issue in which Custom Servers were not sorting correctly in some cases..
/speclist (run from chat window) will list all spectators in a match (can be run by anyone).
Music is auto-disabled when the in-game browser is open, and reenabled at the previous volume when it closes.
Variety of map cleanups and bug fixes.
Fixed an issue where the Rage perk overlay effect would not play if the player began regenerating health.


Preliminary patch notes announced, tons of gun varients and the like will be added

I'm a little sad about the SEN respawn nerfs since i'm not into competitive play and waiting longer to respawn just sounds pretty boring, I preferred the 5 seconds not able to snipe after spawning idea I heard on the tribal council thing a bit more honestly. The rifle nerf i'm kinda w/e about since i'm sure it wont make sniping any less fun or useful.

All the other stuff sounds pretty cool, eager to see how lightweight works out.
Paint it bright and bold.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
June 11 2012 22:19 GMT
#3515
On June 12 2012 07:17 Zoundsforsook wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Major Highlights

The system for upgrading weapons has been modified. Players will now automatically receive weapon upgrades as they play a particular weapon, without having to spend XP on the upgrade (allowing you to save your XP for other items). A progress bar on the weapon’s menu page will provide information as to when the next automatic upgrade occurs. If you are impatient and have excess XP, an option is still provided to immediately master an item using XP. Note that previously purchased upgrades are still owned.
27 new weapons have been added to the game, 3 for each class (details below).
Two new Capture & Hold maps have been added (Tartarus and Sulfer).


Weapon/Balance Items

27 New Weapon Variants have been added across all classes. Weapon Variants have new skins and slight statistical trade offs for the weapon they are a variant of. One weapon variant has been added for each free Primary, Secondary, and Belt item that comes with a class. Weapon variants are all unlocked between 4800xp - 18000xp.
Exception: The Titan Launcher (a variant of the Saber Launcher) is a good bit more than a statistical change.
NEW SLOT 2 PERK: The perk Lightweight has been added. Lightweight reduces your mass by 30%, creating stronger disk jumps, but more than triples the delay before health regeneration takes effect. This perk is intended for advanced chasers.
Automatics, SMGs, and Pistols:
Reduced reload time reduction upgrade from 30% to 15% on:
Soldier’s Assault Rifle
Pathfinder’s Light Assault Rifle
Technician’s TCN4
Infiltrator’s Rhino
Raider’s NJ4 SMG
Raider’s NJ5 SMG
Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol
Increased damage fall off by 5% and brought closer the range at which falloff starts on:
Infiltrator’s Rhino SMG
Technician’s TCN4 SMG
Raider’s NJ4 SMG
Raider’s NJ5 SMG
Increased damage fall off on Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol by 5%.
Reduced clip size by 2 on Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 3 on Pathfinder’s Light Assault Rifle. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 4 on Soldier’s Assault Rifle. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 6 on Infiltrator’s Rhino SMG. Adjusted starting ammo pool.
Reduced clip size by 8 on Raider’s NJ4 SMG. Adjusted starting ammo.
Reduced clip size by 6 on Raider’s NJ5 SMG. Adjusted starting ammo.
Reduced damage by roughly 6% on Juggernaut’s X1 LMG.
Reduced damage by roughly 7% on Infiltrator’s Rhino SMG.
Reduced damage by roughly 6% on Raider’s NJ4 SMG.
Reduced damage by roughly 7% on Sentinel’s Falcon Auto-Pistol.

Decreased effectiveness of Raider’s Shield Pack. More energy is required to absorb each point of damage taken.
Decreased detonation time by 26% and increased radius by 3% on Brute’s Gladiator.
Increased falloff by 20% on Sentinel’s BXT1 Rifle (a nerf).
If you die as the Sentinel class, you will now incur a 5s longer respawn time, regardless of what you are respawning as. This is a fix we are still actively working on, and is intended to be improved upon over time.
Reduced the number of credits awarded for Generator Defense to 200.
Increased credit reward for killing Shrikes to 700.
Increased reward for emergency flag grabs to 500.
Increased reward for flag defense to 300.
Reduced damage on Raider’s EMP grenade by roughly 45%. Increased energy drain by roughly 113% (more than double).
Mass reduction while enraged on the Rage Perk has been reduced from 35% to 10%. Heath granted at the start of Rage increased from 25% to 50%. Note that Rage, a slot 1 perk, can stack with the new Lightweight perk.
Fixed an issue that was allowing players to flat impact walls at high speed, and instantly move 180 degrees in the opposite direction with no speed loss or damage taken. This allowed for some game breaking front-to-front routes, and created a number of other gameplay related issues.
This fix will have a heavy effect on rock-bouncing, a skill and strategy emerging from competitive games. We built in some tolerances to this fix that allow free bouncing at certain angles, and bleed less speed depending on the angle of impact. We will continue to adjust as needed. Rock bouncing is a feature we love, but the bug needed to be fixed for other extreme cases that were not to the benefit of the game.
Reduced inactive reload time from 5 to 3 seconds. Inactive reload time is how long it takes for a weapon to reload automatically when not in hand.
Slightly increased the default pickup radius for all flags.
Decreased by 20% the pickup radius bonus provided by the Reach Perk.
Reduced the grace area for the spotting command. You now have to aim closer to the intended target to trigger spot.


Additional Items

The starting points in Team Deathmatch has been raised from 100 to 125.
Fixed an issue in which Custom Servers were not sorting correctly in some cases..
/speclist (run from chat window) will list all spectators in a match (can be run by anyone).
Music is auto-disabled when the in-game browser is open, and reenabled at the previous volume when it closes.
Variety of map cleanups and bug fixes.
Fixed an issue where the Rage perk overlay effect would not play if the player began regenerating health.


Preliminary patch notes announced, tons of gun varients and the like will be added

I'm a little sad about the SEN respawn nerfs since i'm not into competitive play and waiting longer to respawn just sounds pretty boring, I preferred the 5 seconds not able to snipe after spawning idea I heard on the tribal council thing a bit more honestly. The rifle nerf i'm kinda w/e about since i'm sure it wont make sniping any less fun or useful.

All the other stuff sounds pretty cool, eager to see how lightweight works out.


ZP our savior
:O
Keltanokka
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Finland279 Posts
June 11 2012 22:23 GMT
#3516
Sigh, lightweight replaces ego/quickdraw and it makes regen longer. Chasing is still not gonna be viable, because 2 nitrons= 300 hp left and guess what, cappers fight back^^
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 12 2012 03:09 GMT
#3517
No Soldier buffs :O And I like the change on the EMP grenade, always thought it was ridiculous it did the same dmg as Solider's AP grenades and drained energy.
BajaBlood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States205 Posts
June 12 2012 07:00 GMT
#3518
Pretty happy with the changes overall. I worry that the NJ5 will now just be strictly better than the NJ4 (it seems to have pretty much been the case already, but by a small enough margin that personal preference could overrule it). I also wonder why the Thumper DX is going to remain as bad as it is. Since I don't chase, it's hard to know whether these changes will be effective or not on that end; we'll have to see!

On June 12 2012 12:09 Count9 wrote:
No Soldier buffs :O And I like the change on the EMP grenade, always thought it was ridiculous it did the same dmg as Solider's AP grenades and drained energy.

IIRC the EMP grenades (1100) have less AoE than the Soldier's Frags (1100) and less damage than the APs (1300). But still, the EMP grenade was far too similar in potency to the Soldier's grenades given how much Raiders outclassed Soldiers in pretty much every other way.
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 08:15:41
June 12 2012 08:12 GMT
#3519
The extra respawn time for just sentinel has got to be the most stubborn, shitty, patchwork solution that could possibly be thought up. If it was anyone but Hi-Rez, I would be surprised.

Starseige: Tribes solved this problem already, way back in 1998: naked spawn. Unfortunately, Hi-Rez would have to make some pretty big changes in order for naked spawn to not be completely lame. I think spawning in basic classes - Pathfinder, Soldier, or Juggernaut - and having to use the inventory stations to get the more specialized classes would solve this problem in a much better way. EDIT: Oh, yeah, and better spawn points - pretty important point right there.

Seriously, I cannot believe their solution is a class specific respawn timer. That is so bad.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
June 12 2012 09:31 GMT
#3520
5 sec respawn time is a temporary fix, they are just leaving it fot later to fix it, but want to fix a bunch of other stuff right away. They are very aware its a retarded solution.

I think the patch is awesome and literally adresses almost all the issues the game has save for the pysics.
sorry for dem one liners
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