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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 20:52:38
November 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#4941
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
November 29 2012 20:55 GMT
#4942
Concerning the Saint Row 3 problem, from another forum/website:
+ Show Spoiler [German] +
"Ich habe den Support angeschrieben von humblebundle und direkt einen Key von der deutschen Saints Row Version bekommen."
"Update: Gerade eine Mail an den Humble Support geschrieben – Ergebnis war, dass ich einen zusätzlichen SR3 (DE) Key via Mail bekommen habe. Das nenne ich Support.."
""Kann bestätigen dass man einen deutschen Key bekommt "

and a lot more like that
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 29 2012 20:59 GMT
#4943
On November 30 2012 05:49 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?


You just get a link which you give to somebody to activate the entire thing.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:08:08
November 29 2012 21:07 GMT
#4944
Yeah sounds as if Germans receive the "low violence version" in the end.

Quote from Humble Bundle Support:
We are aware of the issue going on with Saints Row: The Third Steam keys for German customers.

We are actively working on a fix to be placed on your download page. However, you can email us at [1] contact@humblebundle.com with your Transaction ID and the subject "Saints Row Steam Key", and we can get you a working Steam key.


List of the things that are cut in the German version:
-The death of a civilian will instantly alert the cops. This is particularly annoying if you lose control over your vehicle and crash into a bunch of them.
-Civilians cannot be used as human shields.
-Civilians don't drop money when killed.
-The ♥♥♥♥♥-Mode was renamed to Hordenmodus (Horde-Mode) and then cut altogether. Yeah, doesn't really make sense...
-German version is not compatible with the international one, so playing with your friends from around the world is impossible.

Not as bad as with some other titles but meh... QQ.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 29 2012 21:10 GMT
#4945
Lol.... Germanies policies on violent games are so ridiculous...
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 29 2012 21:14 GMT
#4946
On November 30 2012 06:10 solidbebe wrote:
Lol.... Germanies policies on violent games are so ridiculous...

...
It's usually not that big of a deal since you can let someone in a different region buy the game for you and then gift it (it's always the version from where the original buyer was), but in cases like this where it's the plain key that you have to activate... you're kinda screwed.

Can't hurt those civilians dude, instantly turns you into a mass murderer.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 29 2012 21:31 GMT
#4947
On November 30 2012 05:49 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?


This rule in the EULA is only there to protect steam from getting sued! People who don't use VPNs in Steam are the same, that wait on a crosswalk until its green - even if there are no cars at all on the street.
Steam doesn't care, you don't get banned - so why the fuck are still people coming up with all that whining?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 29 2012 21:57 GMT
#4948
On November 30 2012 06:31 Slackzftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:49 r.Evo wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?


This rule in the EULA is only there to protect steam from getting sued! People who don't use VPNs in Steam are the same, that wait on a crosswalk until its green - even if there are no cars at all on the street.
Steam doesn't care, you don't get banned - so why the fuck are still people coming up with all that whining?

Because if it becomes public knowledge that steam does not ban users even though they use VPNs to circumvent german law, then valve will get into trouble. So it is in valve's interest to ban people for this. They do care.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 29 2012 22:10 GMT
#4949
Name me 1 Case where someone got banned for activiating a Key with VPN. Seriously, use your brains!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:14:06
November 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#4950
On November 30 2012 06:57 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:31 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:49 r.Evo wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?


This rule in the EULA is only there to protect steam from getting sued! People who don't use VPNs in Steam are the same, that wait on a crosswalk until its green - even if there are no cars at all on the street.
Steam doesn't care, you don't get banned - so why the fuck are still people coming up with all that whining?

Because if it becomes public knowledge that steam does not ban users even though they use VPNs to circumvent german law, then valve will get into trouble. So it is in valve's interest to ban people for this. They do care.

They can do other things than to ban a whole accounts if it comes to that. The backlash they'd have if they banned whole accounts worth hundreds of dollars just because someone used an vpn would most likely be much worse than whatever penalties the german government could do to them. It would be an absurd overreaction.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12041 Posts
November 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#4951
On November 30 2012 07:10 Slackzftw wrote:
Name me 1 Case where someone got banned for activiating a Key with VPN. Seriously, use your brains!


I did that. I used my brain, emailed the humble bundle guys, and got a key that works in Germany, all within a few hours. Also, you are annoyingly arrogant.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 29 2012 22:27 GMT
#4952
On November 30 2012 07:12 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 06:57 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:31 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:49 r.Evo wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?


This rule in the EULA is only there to protect steam from getting sued! People who don't use VPNs in Steam are the same, that wait on a crosswalk until its green - even if there are no cars at all on the street.
Steam doesn't care, you don't get banned - so why the fuck are still people coming up with all that whining?

Because if it becomes public knowledge that steam does not ban users even though they use VPNs to circumvent german law, then valve will get into trouble. So it is in valve's interest to ban people for this. They do care.

They can do other things than to ban a whole accounts if it comes to that. The backlash they'd have if they banned whole accounts worth hundreds of dollars just because someone used an vpn would most likely be much worse than whatever penalties the german government could do to them. It would be an absurd overreaction.

You'd be surprised. I bought a game on steam while I was in the US a while ago. My account got blocked for that for a week. Just like that. Had to exchange half a dozen emails with steam support before they unbanned it. Minus the game I bought, of course (which wasn't 50% off any more at the time I could buy it again..).

Sure, it was a paypal issue and not a VPN one, but if you think that steam can't just ban your account (no matter what it's worth) just like that and get away with it, you're quite naive.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
November 29 2012 22:27 GMT
#4953
On November 30 2012 07:22 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:10 Slackzftw wrote:
Name me 1 Case where someone got banned for activiating a Key with VPN. Seriously, use your brains!


I did that. I used my brain, emailed the humble bundle guys, and got a key that works in Germany, all within a few hours. Also, you are annoyingly arrogant.


Well, a quick google search tells me that he's correct; there are no reported bans for VPN activation.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 00:41:51
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#4954
On November 30 2012 07:27 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:12 nihlon wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:57 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 06:31 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:49 r.Evo wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:19 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 05:08 Conti wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:58 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 30 2012 04:47 Conti wrote:
A note to the German guys out there: You cannot actually redeem your Saints Row 3 code from what I read (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/24/846938350712226262/). I was considering buying it, but.. meh.


Of course you can!

http://bit.ly/11kM9nL

Well, not through any means that aren't officially forbidden by the Steam TOS and might get your entire account locked down..


/facepalm

You don't get banned for activating a game with a VPN. No one ever got banned for that. LOL! Use your brain - Steam would get sued like hell if they would bann a ~1000$ Account. As long as they get their money, they don't care. These "Rules" are only there because of legal issues

Doesn't change the fact that it's against Valves EULA. If you access steam by any means that don't show your real location they reserve the right to ban your account. Whether people actually do get banned for it is an entirely different matter but as far as I know there is no basis for anyone to step up and say "LOL YOU STUPID YOU CAN'T GET BANNED FOR THAT LOL".

Edit: Did anyone purchase it as a gift yet? What happens in that case, do you get the full bundle as giftable (tradable) steam items?


This rule in the EULA is only there to protect steam from getting sued! People who don't use VPNs in Steam are the same, that wait on a crosswalk until its green - even if there are no cars at all on the street.
Steam doesn't care, you don't get banned - so why the fuck are still people coming up with all that whining?

Because if it becomes public knowledge that steam does not ban users even though they use VPNs to circumvent german law, then valve will get into trouble. So it is in valve's interest to ban people for this. They do care.

They can do other things than to ban a whole accounts if it comes to that. The backlash they'd have if they banned whole accounts worth hundreds of dollars just because someone used an vpn would most likely be much worse than whatever penalties the german government could do to them. It would be an absurd overreaction.

You'd be surprised. I bought a game on steam while I was in the US a while ago. My account got blocked for that for a week. Just like that. Had to exchange half a dozen emails with steam support before they unbanned it. Minus the game I bought, of course (which wasn't 50% off any more at the time I could buy it again..).

Sure, it was a paypal issue and not a VPN one, but if you think that steam can't just ban your account (no matter what it's worth) just like that and get away with it, you're quite naive.


I'm not saying they can't, I'm not stupid... I'm just saying if they start to ban all users that have used vpn activation they'll have a lot of crap to deal with. And that's not even dealing with the other workarounds for people to get a hand on a game that's not available in their region. You might not believe it but Valve haven't gone evil just yet. And the whole buying games out of a country is a whole different issues so I'm not sure why you told me that anecdote (also you didn't get banned in the end).

Steams entire business model depends on people willing put a lot of value in games in what's basically is a giant DRM. What do you think will happen if people start to think they can get banned willy nilly and lose such content for one or a few missteps? Valve have an interest in maintaining their image as the premier pc platform and that would not do that. If they somehow manages to get a complete monopoly on the market I'd start to get worried.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 29 2012 22:43 GMT
#4955
On November 30 2012 07:22 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:10 Slackzftw wrote:
Name me 1 Case where someone got banned for activiating a Key with VPN. Seriously, use your brains!


I did that. I used my brain, emailed the humble bundle guys, and got a key that works in Germany, all within a few hours. Also, you are annoyingly arrogant.


And now you have a Cut-Version of the Game... you could have the Uncut-Version with 5min of Google.

But another question. I had Company of Heroes Gold (Cut-DE ^.^) before. Now what happened with them? Do I have still cut Basegame+OF but Tales of Valor is Uncut?
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
November 30 2012 01:58 GMT
#4956
Oh god.... they have an unreal deal pack on sale this weekend of the unreal franchise for only $13.59... + Show Spoiler +
(unreal gold, unreal 2:the awakening, unreal tournament:goty edition, unreal tournament 2004 and unreal tournament 3 black. thankfully they had the sense to leave out 2003 in favor of 2004).
I may have to pick this up even though I still have the discs for half of these games.

Anyone who is a fan of shooters needs to sell their soul and indulge in the nostalgia of these amazing games.
Buy these. Right now.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 30 2012 01:58 GMT
#4957
Another game that does not even excist in the german store LOL -_-
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 02:12:27
November 30 2012 02:11 GMT
#4958
Is there any cheap game similar to Faster Than Light? I need something that I can play while waiting for dota2 queues or just simply looking to kill 10min or so when Im bored.
Skol
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 30 2012 02:16 GMT
#4959
On November 30 2012 06:10 solidbebe wrote:
Lol.... Germanies policies on violent games are so ridiculous...



its not our policies. i can behead people in skyrim in slomotion, i can cut off limbs in dead spce etc etc.

its just some publishers being too lazy to work for a certificate or something and just make a special german version.
Its very annoying on steam since they dont even let me buy the UK version, which in a store would be no problem for 18+.
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
November 30 2012 02:29 GMT
#4960
On November 30 2012 11:11 Emnjay808 wrote:
Is there any cheap game similar to Faster Than Light? I need something that I can play while waiting for dota2 queues or just simply looking to kill 10min or so when Im bored.

A rogue like turn based rpgish game? Dungeons of Dredmor check that one out if you don't have it.
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