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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
Previously it was called ToME: Tales of Middle Earth, a Zangband clone with a few additions. He's recently started a new version, 4.x that was originally with the LoTR plot, but has since moved away from it. It's still a solid platform though. There's always NetHack and various other dungeon crawls. | ||
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Stossel
United States47 Posts
Nethack is fun for the unitiated into roguelikes and a gamer should definitely ascend (win) a character before they die. It's just something you should do. Also, dying because you threw a cockatrice corpse up in the air and you weren't wearing a helmet is just some shit you won't find elsewhere. My current favorite roguelike is Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, which is a more action-oriented game with many choices for races and classes. http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/ is the link if you're interested. The great thing about Nethack and Dungeon Crawl is that they can be played on a server where they track your stats as well as others so that you can see what everyone else is doing and even watch their games in progress. Angband unfortunately doesn't have that. As the above mentioned, ToME is great as well. I think it's really gotten beyond the realm of an Angband variant (even if that's what it technically is). Edite Note: Also, for extremely action-oriented roguelikes, try the Doom Roguelike. It's a lot of fun. http://doom.chaosforge.org/ | ||
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United States10328 Posts
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
Have to ask though is it close to nethack in the fact that pure knowledge of the game can win it for you? And please tell me their is no E word. | ||
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MOOG
United States188 Posts
I totally thought that darkgod just stopped developing ToME. I checked the old ToME site and its a wasteland with tumbleweeds blowing about, and assumed that ToME development stopped. Have any of you played ToME 4? did it feel "finished" or is there still a LOT of work to be done? edit: well I played tome 4 and it still needs work... the latest version has selling removed. I can't handle that | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On February 28 2011 12:23 Nub4ever wrote: I tried playing it and god its confusing, and the wiki is damn long so I'm a little hesitant to read Yea, it is pretty in depth. If you do end up deciding to give it a shot, i would just skim through most of the wiki. Just focus on the races, classes, stats, and controls. Quickly read through how fighting works, and just know that there are bad/horribad items, neutral items, good/magical items, exceptional/ego items, and artifacts/uniques. Heres a good "Newbie Guide" for some tips, tricks, and general advice after you get the basics down: http://www.thangorodrim.net/TANG/index.html Just remember to use the I (capital 'i') command to inspect your gear so you get an idea of what stuff does. | ||
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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
On February 28 2011 13:37 MOOG wrote: edit: well I played tome 4 and it still needs work... the latest version has selling removed. I can't handle that It's removed intentionally, I agree, the 4.x is a vast departure from the Angband/Zangband/ToME 2.3.5 that we've probably come to expect, but it's good in it's own right. Selling isn't 'disabled' you simply can't sell the 'junk' you might normally have to pack-mule for cash. Only Gems and artifact or Rand-art is viable to be sold. Normal white, green, blue stuff can't be sold off. With the latest additions of a a permanent identify effect (and a trigger ability to ID artifact level stuff) you can simply leave most of it where it lies. It's 'different' than what many roguers may expect, but I think it's still quite good. Unfortunately, some of the more 'advanced' classes require actual achievement like effects to be done within the game. This means that for newer players, the options available are a bit limited to others. There are ways around this though, if you care to search for them. Beyond that... Tome 4.x is HARD. Though new versions are coming out almost monthly, some with some significant changes (the no selling stuff was a recent one), there are relatively few 'winners'. That and the various classes have some true defining differences, though granted you don't get access to many of them straight off. | ||
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MOOG
United States188 Posts
I dont understand the orb of scrying at all-perhaps its the identify function you talked about. Also, do you get a house to store your stuff? I'm also glad that its being updated. I looked at the variants listed in thangorodrim and it seems like many of them are dead. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
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Hexaflex
United Kingdom70 Posts
They're brilliant games if you've got the time to spare, but I think a lot of people don't have the time and/or patience to really appreciate RLs like Angband and Nethack, or at least that seemed to be the case when I mentioned them to gamer friends. | ||
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undyinglight
United States611 Posts
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GullyFoyle
United States103 Posts
Any suggestions on a best roguelike to jump into? | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On March 02 2011 17:06 gameguard wrote: could someone link me to a GUI version? I cant do ascii http://www.reloaded.org/download/ZangbandTK/46/ The game is the exact same as Zangband, they just put a new UI and tileset on it. www.zangband.org has pretty much all the info you need about the game itself. | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
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