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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
March 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#801
this game is just so damn frustrating! First time I make it all the way down to ~d17, I fall through a shaft and end up trapped with three oklobs behind a wall of plants and fungus that I can't fight through in time. Plus I've got at least a dozen lucky shots from uniques that I should have been able to kill, and most of my best starts have been ended early by player ghosts. So damn frustrating!
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
March 15 2012 08:11 GMT
#802
you must prepare yourself for any and every situation, young padowan
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#803
On March 15 2012 17:11 ZaplinG wrote:
you must prepare yourself for any and every situation, young padawan


Do or do not, there is no try.

Mostly just "do not," until you're actually good at this game T_T
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 08:23:53
March 18 2012 08:19 GMT
#804
http://pastebin.com/mAmLQe03

Level 17 HOPr who's in the middle of Vaults (though I think my gear is still a bit lacking.)

I want to branch into casting (and already trained a crapload of spell schools for no good reason... I should stop that probably. What should I focus on as HOPr? My books include: Maledictions, Geomancy, Summoning [I think that's where I got Abjuration], some book with Recall [maybe TLoc?], plus Roxanne/Wizardry/Ice which I'm holding.) That's why I'm not wearing plate right now... >.>

Just bought a (F)DA, but this rC- might be scary (I do have two rC rings though). What should I dump?

My entourage consists of 2 warlords, 5 knights, 1 knight-turned-7-headed-hydra, Nergalle, a sorcerer, and a few others... still having some trouble make them pick gear up sometimes, but it's mostly ok.

I shouldn't take my orcs into Swamp, right? (Though idk if I can survive alone through Swamp.)

... maybe I should be asking all this in ##crawl ... heh?
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 18 2012 09:44 GMT
#805
I would get swiftness immediately and work toward agony and haste--pick one and then get the other one afterward--and then grab excruciating wounds also since you'll have enough necro to make pain the best brand, and grab an unbranded orc battleaxe to use it on. Definitely keep repel missiles, shroud, stoneskin, and regen, and probably summon elemental (earth elementals are not bad and you have enough earth skill for them already). The rest of your spells are not really that great and you can amnesia them for spell levels. I would try to get this stuff castable in orcish plate if you can (which is not really much harder to cast in than fire dragon armour, since you get orcish racial bonuses). If you can find a staff of wizardry that would be excellent, since you can just use the staff to cast agony or haste.

You should probably stop training armour and dodging and evocations until you get some spells up, since you don't need more levels of those skills right now (and both haste and agony are extremely good). Fighting can stay on or get turned off, and turn off axes once you get that last bit toward level 20.

If you don't think you can handle swamp alone just don't go there yet, the xp is not that important and there is basically no loot.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 12:08:05
March 18 2012 12:06 GMT
#806
ok I got swiftness/haste/agony, though my casting in plate is quite sad (so I'm sticking with my randart leather for now.)

Unfortunately my entourage is down to 2 warlords, 5 knights, and Nergalle... Cleared V:1-7; D:20 has Boris so I'm staying away for now. Probably going to do Snake -> Swamp (should I take my orcs along to Snake?)

Oops the char dump isn't recent; I found a +3 orc plate of rC+ so that'll be my plate of choice, probably. I've basically been tabbing with buffs and orc recalls (well, mostly recalls). I have a pretty good book selection now, too. (I'm also listing spells that I'd maybe like, but if you could, please tell me why I'm stupid for liking them :D .)
+ Show Spoiler [books] +

Cantrips [blink?]
Death [dispel undead?, and I should get pain brand next]
Roxanne (see above post) [Lee's R.D.?, Statue Form??]
Flame [conjure flame?]
Geomancy
Ice [Cond Shield, Ozocubu's Refrig, Cold Bolt, Simulacrum?]
Maledictions [Invis?]
Spatial TLoc [cTele, Pass. of Golubria?]
Summonings [Shadow Creatures?]
Transfigurations
War Chants
Wizardry [lightning bolt, fireball?]
Dragon [flight, bolt of fire?]
randart Incunabulum of Reason (see above) (everything's covered)
and a highlevel papyrus book... hopefully it's Necrominicon?


+ Show Spoiler [dump] +

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-4-g5f5999a character file.

343 the Severer (Hill Orc Priest) Turns: 70534, Time: 05:00:56

HP 176/176 AC 17 Str 21 XL: 20 Next: 46%
MP 35/35 EV 16 Int 20 God: Beogh [******]
Gold 875 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 13 memorised, 6 levels left

Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : + Q - +2,+1 battleaxe (freeze)
Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . . p - +2 leather armour of Noyloil {rF+ Int+4 SI
Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet)
Res.Poison: + Clarity : + C - +2 orc cloak
Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . v - +2 pair of dwarf gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . R - +2 pair of boots
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . M - amulet of clarity
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . P - ring of protection from cold
Saprovore : + . . Ctrl.Flight: . q - ring of Sakurgh {Wiz rF+ rN+ Dex+4}

@: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: walk on water, poison resistance, saprovore 1
a: Smiting, Recall Orcish Followers, Renounce Religion


You are on level 6 of the Vaults.
You worship Beogh.
Beogh is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 42 of its levels.
You have visited 2 portal chambers: sewer, ice cave.

You have collected 3867 gold pieces.
You have spent 3012 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
r - a +8,+3 war axe of flaming
w - the sabre "Quxtek" {pain, Dex+4}
(You found it on level 7 of the Vaults)

In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage
on living creatures.

It affects your dexterity (+4).
Q - a +2,+1 battleaxe of freezing (weapon)
W - an uncursed runed orcish battleaxe
Missiles
f - 22 runed darts (quivered)
Armour
a - a +1 orcish plate armour
g - the +2 fire dragon armour of Autumn {rF++ rC- Dex+3 Int+1}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)

It affects your intelligence (+1).
It affects your dexterity (+3).
It greatly protects you from fire.
It makes you vulnerable to cold.
p - the +2 leather armour of Noyloil (worn) {rF+ Int+4 SInv}
(You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)

It affects your intelligence (+4).
It protects you from fire.
It enhances your eyesight.
v - a +2 pair of dwarven gauntlets (worn)
C - a +2 orcish cloak (worn)
R - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Magical devices
l - a wand of invisibility (3)
s - a wand of draining {zapped: 5}
u - a wand of disintegration (3)
D - a wand of polymorph other
E - a wand of cold {zapped: 2}
H - a wand of teleportation (7)
J - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1}
V - a wand of cold {empty}
Comestibles
c - 8 meat rations
Scrolls
d - 4 scrolls of remove curse
k - 4 scrolls of fear
m - 2 scrolls of identify
F - 2 scrolls of detect curse
G - a scroll of teleportation
Y - a scroll of fog
Z - a scroll of magic mapping
Jewellery
b - an uncursed ring of fire
j - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
n - an uncursed ring of life protection
q - the ring of Sakurgh (left hand) {Wiz rF+ rN+ Dex+4}
(You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)

[ring of wizardry]

It affects your dexterity (+4).
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from negative energy.
y - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
A - an uncursed ring of wizardry
B - an uncursed ring of sustenance
K - an uncursed amulet of controlled flight
M - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
P - a ring of protection from cold (right hand)
Potions
e - a potion of magic
h - a potion of berserk rage
i - 2 potions of agility
x - 4 potions of curing
I - a potion of mutation
N - 2 potions of speed
Books
z - a book of Spatial Translocations

Spells Type Level
*Apportation Translocation 1
Portal Projectile Translocation 2
Blink Translocation 2
*Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2
Teleport Other Translocation 3
Passage of Golubria Translocation 4
Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4
L - a book of Death

Spells Type Level
Corpse Rot Necromancy 2
Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2
*Agony Necromancy 5
Dispel Undead Necromancy 5
Excruciating Wounds Charms/Necromancy 5
Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 6
O - a book of Transfigurations

Spells Type Level
*Stoneskin Transmutation/Earth 2
Condensation Shield Ice/Transmutation 4
Ice Form Ice/Transmutation 4
Statue Form Transmutation/Earth 6
Dragon Form Fire/Transmutation 7
S - a book of the Dragon

Spells Type Level
Flight Charms/Air 3
Cause Fear Hexes 4
Bolt of Fire Conjuration/Fire 6
Dragon Form Fire/Transmutation 7
Summon Dragon Summoning 9
T - a book of Flames

Spells Type Level
Flame Tongue Conjuration/Fire 1
Throw Flame Conjuration/Fire 2
Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3
Inner Flame Hexes/Fire 3
Sticky Flame Conjuration/Fire 4
Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5
U - a manual of Translocations
X - a papyrus book {highlevel}
This book is beyond your current level of understanding.
Magical staves
t - a staff of death


Skills:
+ Level 15.8 Fighting
- Level 20.6 Axes
- Level 13.3 Armour
- Level 9.2 Dodging
- Level 3.3 Traps & Doors
* Level 9.8 Spellcasting
- Level 6.1 Conjurations
- Level 6.2 Hexes
* Level 9.7 Charms
- Level 6.0 Summonings
* Level 10.3 Necromancy
- Level 3.1 Translocations
- Level 6.3 Earth Magic
- Level 6.0 Invocations
- Level 2.3 Evocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Sandblast Erth ######. 1% 1 None
b - Swiftness Air/Chrm #####..... 1% 2 None
c - Stoneskin Erth/Trmt ####...... 1% 2 None
d - Corona Hex #####... 1% 1 None
e - Agony Necr #######.. 1% 5 Honeycomb
f - Stone Arrow Erth/Conj #####.. 1% 3 None
g - Repel Missiles Air/Chrm #####..... 1% 2 None
h - Abjuration Summ #####..... 1% 3 None
i - Passwall Erth/Trmt ####...... 3% 3 None
j - Shroud of Golubria Chrm/Tloc ######.... 1% 2 None
k - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 1% 3 None
l - Summon Elemental Summ #####..... 3% 4 Choko
m - Apportation Tloc ####...... 1% 1 None

Portals:
Trove: D:10 (give 16 scrolls of teleportation)

Annotations
D:20 Boris
Vault:6 Nergalle


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can walk on water.
You can tolerate rotten meat.
Your system is resistant to poisons.

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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 00:10:20
March 19 2012 00:09 GMT
#807
just a quick note:

portal mimic really? all with the fancy special area and themed enemies around it? even with the "its soon gone" messages?

i just got totally trickraped by this game -____-'

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
March 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#808
Branch staircase mimic is the best, especially when you end up thinking you have all 3 of snake, shoals and swamp.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 08:52:27
March 19 2012 08:32 GMT
#809
Wow, Summon Earth Elemental is almost as good as Dig! XD

Wish I had more MP though I can't Earth Elemental spam in addition to haste/rmsl/regen/shroud/stoneskin-ing myself, lol. (Hasting my knights is fun though!)
Writer
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 19 2012 11:52 GMT
#810
Have you ever had a game where you've gotten every single item you could ask for? I'm having a HOFi like that right now.

Quick rundown of notable items:

Orcish plate on d6 or so (plate armour early is extremely good if you are going heavy armour), decent halberd and glaive pretty quick also. Find a +5 ring of protection somewhere, as well as a ring of wizardry. I go TSO.

Find ice cave on lair:6. Get a glaive of freezing and a crystal plate armour of rC+ (ice caves cheat). I leave the ice cave with 5* piety (angels) and about 40 AC. Get a bardiche on the floor close to the ice cave too.

About six or so book shops with nice stuff that I want to learn eventually. Yes despite the fact I'm wearing crystal plate. HO is like that.

My jewellery includes rF, rC, rPois, conservation, amulet of rage, telecontrol. I have wands of heal wounds and multiple teleportation.

Eventually I find a randart +3,+4 glaive of speed. I get to about 40 AC without my protection ring and then decide to start learning spells; it takes a ton of xp (up to 18 charms!!) but I get rmsl, shroud, swiftness, haste, flight, and probably can go pick up insulation when I want it. I grab apportation and blink also.

Then to top it off I find a rod of inacc on d23. Rod of inacc is the best rod in the game normally. When you also have TSO halo boosting your to-hit, it is broken.

Basically this game has just been a ridiculous run of "what good things is the rng going to throw at me next".

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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 20:48:15
March 19 2012 20:16 GMT
#811
Whoa crate, I see you're playing trunk and got the new spider branch? :O (Does it generate 2 of Swamp/Shoals/Snake/Spider now?)

edit: lol @ 99% failure on summon butterflies XD

(I actually accidentally summoned butterflies on a haste miscast earlier... thank you rng)

edit 2: does your hat also have guardian spirit? o_O

edit 3: died to ice ending of swamp despite two rings of rC+... -_- http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/343/morgue-343-20120319-204508.txt

(shouldn't have eaten that ration LOL)
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 00:19:34
March 19 2012 23:46 GMT
#812
I think I've only ever found inacc once, and that's when I didn't understand how good it was.

I'm playing a local trunk tiles game right now because my internet has been acting up. Spider branch is so dumb - because the occasional zot-exclusive ghost moths weren't fun enough, you're now guaranteed to meet multiples in the Nest! Tiles is so much harder to read than ascii. Got banished by Louise - twice - because I didn't notice her in the mass of webs and bugs on my screen.

It looks like .11 Vaults is actually going to be full of vaults? I've got this floor I've never seen before, full of themed monster vaults featuring related spellbooks. Interesting. It got me haste, anyways.

it's my first day
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 20 2012 02:24 GMT
#813
Log of the game if anyone wants it: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/morgue-crate-20120320-020058.txt

Easiest game ever.

Yes Bear Spirit has spirit. You can get guardian spirit on caps normally, but it's pretty rare.
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Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
March 20 2012 02:55 GMT
#814
On March 20 2012 11:24 crate wrote:
Log of the game if anyone wants it: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/morgue-crate-20120320-020058.txt

Easiest game ever.

Yes Bear Spirit has spirit. You can get guardian spirit on caps normally, but it's pretty rare.


Congrats. Wow that's neat how it shows how many times you performed a certain action now.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#815
On March 20 2012 11:55 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 11:24 crate wrote:
Log of the game if anyone wants it: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/morgue-crate-20120320-020058.txt

Easiest game ever.

Yes Bear Spirit has spirit. You can get guardian spirit on caps normally, but it's pretty rare.


Congrats. Wow that's neat how it shows how many times you performed a certain action now.

You have to add dump_order+=action_counts or something (check my rc if you care) to get that printed in your dumps/logs.
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mcpwn
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada11 Posts
March 29 2012 01:55 GMT
#816
Woot first win!

I was a DECj of Vehemut. So much damage but kinda scary with few escapes for a long time... I found a bailey and killed a bunch of orc knights early with mephetic cloud+deep water. Got me like 3 levels. :D

Log: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/mcpwn/morgue-mcpwn-20120329-012923.txt

This thread got me into the game and was really helpful, so cheers!


ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
March 31 2012 05:19 GMT
#817
cheers mister! Congrats!

So what, now that the tournament is over no one plays DCSS anymore?
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 23:03:44
March 31 2012 07:25 GMT
#818
oh I'm still playing crawl plenty, I just get my fix on ##crawl, rather than post here. I'm actually on a 4 win streak at the moment - MiDK, DEFE^Sif, KoBe, GhMo^Nem, this last one being my 20th finish.

log from the latest win: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/eeviac/morgue-eeviac-20120331-071749.txt

I had some pretty sweet luck this last game (no inacc though ). Nemelex is still completely broken. I think this was my first Ghoul game - they are really strong. Decent apts across the board, and all the benefits of being undead with the minimal drawback of random rotting and a weird food clock.

--

and what is hopefully steak win 5 now underway - my MuIE^Sif just cleared lair 1. I chose this combo because one, I still haven't won a mummy, and two, spamming Ozo's Refrigeration with built in rC and no potions to worry about sounds awesome.

- nevermind - got cooked in a volcano blast. I had one piece of rF gear, but it did just enough damage to kill me. Welp, back to Draconians!
it's my first day
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 02 2012 05:35 GMT
#819
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/morgue-crate-20120402-040536.txt

New personal high score despite the fact I left Mnoleg's level without realizing it. This was really a quite easy game for most of it, though the new dis really did a number on me because hell sentinels are crazy buff right now. HOHe of Ely -> TSO is quite good for going fast since you don't have to rest up at all until you abandon Elyvilon (you can just use minor self healing if you get hurt), and your combat goes really fast since you pacify most guys in D (which takes like 1-3 turns) and then you get a holy 2-hander for extended.

Unfortunately I didn't find projected noise at all so Tomb: 3 sucked and I didn't ever ID my ring of regeneration since by the time I picked it up I had run out of ?RC and ?ID and I did not want to be stuck with a cursed ring. If I'd gotten Mnoleg's rune also this would be the HO high score, as it is I have to settle for HOHe high score and the highest non-Xomscumming non-15 rune score.
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
April 02 2012 16:05 GMT
#820
Evoke which item? (* ta show all) (? fer menu, 'sc ta quit)
Zappin': F - a wand o' disintegration {zapped: 2}
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line
Ye hear a grindin' noise.
Thar be a stone staircase leadin' up 'ere.
Ye climb upwards.
Ye sense a powerful magical force warpin' space.

do you have some sort of pirate mod?
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
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