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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 10 2012 21:46 GMT
#781
On March 11 2012 06:45 ThaZenith wrote:
Come up a couple times. But is there a way to swing at a suspected invisible monster without having to move to the location if it isn't there?

I know it would have been handy a few times to be able to just sit there waving my dagger at the air until he walked into it. xD

Control-direction.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 10 2012 22:20 GMT
#782
On March 11 2012 06:46 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 06:45 ThaZenith wrote:
Come up a couple times. But is there a way to swing at a suspected invisible monster without having to move to the location if it isn't there?

I know it would have been handy a few times to be able to just sit there waving my dagger at the air until he walked into it. xD

Control-direction.

Thanks.
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
March 11 2012 05:25 GMT
#783
Joined ya on the natures ally 3.

http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/resistentialism/morgue-resistentialism-20120311-051827.txt
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 11 2012 08:13 GMT
#784
Congrats. Did you have any trouble with orbrun tomb?

---

jhr (on the #6 team) is currently saved in Tomb:3. He has 7 hp and is in LOS of about 6 greater mummies and I think some mummy priests. He read a scroll of blinking about 2 turns ago but unfortunately it blinked him toward the stairs and not into the mess of mummies. His save has probably ruined great footv.

I suspect he will die and there goes his potential first tournament win and all the points along with it, so I think we're good. :p
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 20:50:34
March 11 2012 08:46 GMT
#785
Just got vault rune for my 3rd. Lvl 25 KoBe, with +7/+8 QuickBlade of stabbing, decent armors, every ring and amulet on the planet.

Previous best was Lair:1 or Dung 12 or something, lol, so I've been looking up everything I see and generally being confused the entire time.
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 15:52:28
March 11 2012 15:51 GMT
#786
I tried the projected noise tactic on tomb 3 you mentioned, but I think I just ended up firestorming most everything anyways. 338 hp and hungerless firestorm is a little beastly.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 20:53:53
March 11 2012 20:53 GMT
#787
Ended up with my first win.

Now I just have to find some other really easy combinations.

+ Show Spoiler +
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0 character file.

1358998 HappyBoy the Eviscerator (level 27, 171/171 (180) HPs)
Began as a Kobold Berserker on Mar 10, 2012.
Was a High Priest of Trog.
Escaped with the Orb
... and 3 runes on Mar 11, 2012!

The game lasted 14:15:13 (106192 turns).

HappyBoy the Eviscerator (Kobold Berserker) Turns: 106192, Time: 14:15:13

HP 171/171 (180) AC 24 Str 25 XL: 27
MP 17/17 EV 38 Int 7 God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 4294 SH 20 Dex 25 Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : . i - +7,+8 quick blade (stab) {god gift}
Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . . c - +2 swamp dragon armour "Tweifida" {rPois r
Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : + R - +3 elf buckler
Res.Acid. : + . . Res.Corr. : + E - +2 helmet "Das Blij" {rC+ Curse}
Res.Poison: + Clarity : . P - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Res.Elec. : + Spirit.Shd : . h - +0 pair of gloves "Lusmoe" {rElec Acc+4}
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . L - +2 pair of boots
Res.Mut. : + Ctrl.Telep.: x k - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . V - +5,+5 ring of slaying
Saprovore : + + . Ctrl.Flight: . M - ring of fire

@: mighty, very slightly contaminated, slow, extremely resistant to hostile
enchantments, quite stealthy
A: disease resistance, carnivore 3, -10% hp, -20% mp, saprovore 2, slowness 1,
Str -1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, silver
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 12 2012 00:06 GMT
#788
Tournament is over. Elliptic grabbed the extra 100 points for the latest-starting win and edges jeanjacques for overall #1 by 97 points. I finished in individual 5th place, and TL takes 5th as a team. Great job everyone. Good show!
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 12 2012 02:07 GMT
#789
On March 12 2012 09:06 crate wrote:
Tournament is over. Elliptic grabbed the extra 100 points for the latest-starting win and edges jeanjacques for overall #1 by 97 points. I finished in individual 5th place, and TL takes 5th as a team. Great job everyone. Good show!


yay! Too bad I didn't get the win though >.>
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Glenstorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States69 Posts
March 12 2012 02:38 GMT
#790
Yeah it was real fun, though I think I might need a nice long break from Crawl now.

Great job guys, GG
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 04:13:58
March 14 2012 03:59 GMT
#791
my current kobe is going deeper then ever before online. cleared lair,orc, snake and shoals (so i have 2 runes) ,elf till 4 and vaults to 6. now im not sure what i should do.

i have/can get mucho life protect but at the start of crypt there is a unique with multiple greater mummies (khufa?) and vault 7 there us that mara guy which i dont want to fight together with the guardians. esp after i almost died after my first fight with him. had him at 30%, then he started his magic madness and a damn fire crab waited at the top of the stairs <.<

oh also where does the char dump file go or what is it named?

/edit and fuck this game. so addicting. been playing it more then evrything else last few days and evrything else includes bf3,skyrim,tribes and other quite damn good games <.<

On March 11 2012 04:12 myopia wrote:


oh and the biggest point: constriction is bugged in .10. if you get grabbed by anyone, simply hammer '<' or '>', even if you're not on stairs - you'll break constriction without using a turn.


you sure? remembered your post when i got constricted while trying to do the stairs game on snake5 and it didnt do anything.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 05:42:33
March 14 2012 04:39 GMT
#792
On March 14 2012 12:59 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
my current kobe is going deeper then ever before online. cleared lair,orc, snake and shoals (so i have 2 runes) ,elf till 4 and vaults to 6. now im not sure what i should do.

i have/can get mucho life protect but at the start of crypt there is a unique with multiple greater mummies (khufa?) and vault 7 there us that mara guy which i dont want to fight together with the guardians. esp after i almost died after my first fight with him. had him at 30%, then he started his magic madness and a damn fire crab waited at the top of the stairs <.<

oh also where does the char dump file go or what is it named?

/edit and fuck this game. so addicting. been playing it more then evrything else last few days and evrything else includes bf3,skyrim,tribes and other quite damn good games <.<

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 04:12 myopia wrote:


oh and the biggest point: constriction is bugged in .10. if you get grabbed by anyone, simply hammer '<' or '>', even if you're not on stairs - you'll break constriction without using a turn.


you sure? remembered your post when i got constricted while trying to do the stairs game on snake5 and it didnt do anything.

It definitely is bugged. Regarding the win I just got, if it hadn't been bugged I'd have been dead against almost every single constricting thing I faced. So OP. Just know that if you try and do it on top of a staircase, you might end up going up/down the stairs multiple times if you spam fast, so they'll get lots of free shots. lol

And char dumps go into your morgue folder, just under the name of your char.

And regarding what to do. Well, I had gone elf, gotten mad when i realized there was no rune, then went vault 8, which didn't really seem all that hard, though I dunno about the Mara guy. I had gotten cornered by him on D:20 or something, just summoned 2 brothers and berzerked into him and he died before I did, so it was all good, but he seems like he's a tough one.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 14 2012 08:37 GMT
#793
If you're online you can find your dump by going to ##crawl on Freenode IRC and asking either Henzell or Gretell (!dump <name> if you're on CAO, @dump <name> if you're on CDO).

Constriction was bugged in 0.10 only, if you're playing trunk it is no longer bugged. If you tried to use the staircase that you were actually standing on then it worked fine in 0.10 also (maybe if you were standing on any stairs at all, though I assume that trying to go down while on an up staircase would work fine to break it).

As for where to go, when in doubt do more dungeon. I don't even enter elf on most of my characters any more, the loot it has is pretty specific and usually not too useful (it has bucklers and arrows, not too much else until elf:5, which is usually too hard to be worthwhile).
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 14 2012 08:54 GMT
#794
I apologize, forgot where you mentioned you were online. (regarding the dump)
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
March 14 2012 14:44 GMT
#795
dudes that deal stupid amounts of one round melee damage checklist:

simulacrums (each attack gets bonus cold damage)
titanic slimes (110 damage max)
ettins (2 x (45 + weapon damage))

each of these dudes has out of the blue completely demolished one of my promising characters. it can be so surprising because the protection ac and ev provide is entirely random if you dont have GDR. the last DrEE I lost was cruising through vault8 no big deal, then got to one lucky ettin that destroyed him. I had no idea they could deal that much punishment despite killing hundreds of them over hundreds of games. I had thought ettins were just recolored two-headed ogres, when they actually hit 3x harder. You die and learn I guess.

in short: give dracs some GDR please
it's my first day
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
March 14 2012 22:35 GMT
#796
just killed my berserker. lvl 25, all fine , cleared almost all of dungeon and decided to go vaults 8. np at all with the vault guards etc. then a single tentacled monster shows up. i think ez and attack till i notice im suddenly at just 65hp and damn constricted. then i notice that apparently some fire shit burned my blink scrolls. end of story is i die a pathetic death to a single average monster on a char that easily couldve been my first win.

also thats my 2nd promising char i kill during the time buddys leave and im still distracted.


think im gonna try kobe again but will be harder without the lucky +2 boots of running on ~d6 and a +5/+6 ring of slaying just as early :/
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
March 14 2012 23:01 GMT
#797
On March 15 2012 07:35 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
just killed my berserker. lvl 25, all fine , cleared almost all of dungeon and decided to go vaults 8. np at all with the vault guards etc. then a single tentacled monster shows up. i think ez and attack till i notice im suddenly at just 65hp and damn constricted. then i notice that apparently some fire shit burned my blink scrolls. end of story is i die a pathetic death to a single average monster on a char that easily couldve been my first win.

also thats my 2nd promising char i kill during the time buddys leave and im still distracted.


think im gonna try kobe again but will be harder without the lucky +2 boots of running on ~d6 and a +5/+6 ring of slaying just as early :/


Damn that sucks, and the story above too. That's why I like casters better. It's harder to die when you nuke everything from a far distance, plus have access to escape spells if things dont die.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 23:13:55
March 14 2012 23:12 GMT
#798
On March 15 2012 08:01 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 07:35 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
just killed my berserker. lvl 25, all fine , cleared almost all of dungeon and decided to go vaults 8. np at all with the vault guards etc. then a single tentacled monster shows up. i think ez and attack till i notice im suddenly at just 65hp and damn constricted. then i notice that apparently some fire shit burned my blink scrolls. end of story is i die a pathetic death to a single average monster on a char that easily couldve been my first win.

also thats my 2nd promising char i kill during the time buddys leave and im still distracted.


think im gonna try kobe again but will be harder without the lucky +2 boots of running on ~d6 and a +5/+6 ring of slaying just as early :/


Damn that sucks, and the story above too. That's why I like casters better. It's harder to die when you nuke everything from a far distance, plus have access to escape spells if things dont die.


well my last caster that did well just died to a random paralyze by a unique since while i could 1-2 shot evrything a single black mamba whacking me for a few rounds was too much. so that can go terribly wrong just as easy ~~
but thanks, having someone feel my "pain" makes it easier

will try to do kobe again since i think i have a quite good idea of what they can handle and what not by now.

still would like to try a summon char since i never did that. any recommended combinations for that?
also would like to try something thats lotsa melee but with some magic, what should i try? outside of naga transmuter
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 15 2012 01:07 GMT
#799
On March 15 2012 08:01 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 07:35 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
just killed my berserker. lvl 25, all fine , cleared almost all of dungeon and decided to go vaults 8. np at all with the vault guards etc. then a single tentacled monster shows up. i think ez and attack till i notice im suddenly at just 65hp and damn constricted. then i notice that apparently some fire shit burned my blink scrolls. end of story is i die a pathetic death to a single average monster on a char that easily couldve been my first win.

also thats my 2nd promising char i kill during the time buddys leave and im still distracted.


think im gonna try kobe again but will be harder without the lucky +2 boots of running on ~d6 and a +5/+6 ring of slaying just as early :/


Damn that sucks, and the story above too. That's why I like casters better. It's harder to die when you nuke everything from a far distance, plus have access to escape spells if things dont die.

I honestly feel like characters who kill everything in melee are more powerful (but much harder to learn to play properly!) than characters who kill everything with spells. I never go Trog though; almost all my characters end up casting some spells eventually, even if they wear plate armour (but this is more that I don't like Trog; if I want to win without casting spells I feel like Elyvilon still ends up being more powerful).

still would like to try a summon char since i never did that. any recommended combinations for that?

Anything, summoning is way overpowered because of the way it works. MuSu or VpSu are the most abusive since you can channel without worrying about food costs.

also would like to try something thats lotsa melee but with some magic, what should i try?

MfIE, MfSk, DgSk, DgNe, anything-Gl-and-pick-up-a-spellbook, etc.
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Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
March 15 2012 01:47 GMT
#800
On March 15 2012 10:07 crate wrote:
MuSu or VpSu are the most abusive since you can channel without worrying about food costs..


Oh yeah MuSu is so ridiculous with Haunt and endless channeling. In Zot use Shadow Creatures... summons gold dragons and shit.
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