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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 17:22:19
April 02 2012 17:21 GMT
#821
That's some funny guys on Trunk including fun languages. I think you can disable it with "language = boring" in your rc.

Also I think it's dwarven.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 02 2012 22:30 GMT
#822
Yes, it's dwarven language (which you can use in trunk with language=dwarven in your rcfile) which I find is amusing and (unlike some of the other "joke" languages) still quite readable.

Any suggestions on what combo I should play next? Going for good scores keeps the game interesting. Maybe I'll try to comment my game as I play so it makes a good ttyrec (in lieu of making an actual video which is plain not happening while I'm stuck with just this netbook).
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 02:42:26
April 03 2012 02:34 GMT
#823
If you're going to comment a game, I'd recommend doing a straightforward dude who hits other dudes in the face, so new players can learn the intricacies of melee combat and monster AI. And teach people how to use charms on every character in every situation.

So, probly HO.
it's my first day
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 03 2012 03:01 GMT
#824
Maybe something other than HO since I just played a HO game (and while they are the best race I like some variety sometimes).
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
April 03 2012 03:45 GMT
#825
Go Mf for the training game then - they seem criminally underused: awesome apts, full armour slots, swimming makes getting abyssed early no big deal (a major hurdle for new players)... what's not to like?
it's my first day
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 03 2012 04:48 GMT
#826
I went with TeNe because it is still unwon and someone in ##crawl told me to play tengu.

I am probably playing better than normal because I am commenting a lot (and thus playing slowly). Evocable flight at xl5 has proven to be quite nice. I'm undecided on my god but probably will go Ash because I don't feel like I want the other choices, unless anyone has a convincing argument for what they'd like to see.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 08:34:38
April 03 2012 07:00 GMT
#827
Well I died to lair Rupert paralyzing me after some not-optimal play. I think I might play another Tengu after this but it will be a while before I comment another game; it's quite tiring. Anyway here is my commented ttyrec:

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/2012-04-03.03:42:11.ttyrec.bz2
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/2012-04-03.03:53:18.ttyrec.bz2
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/2012-04-03.05:45:21.ttyrec.bz2
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/2012-04-03.06:45:28.ttyrec.bz2

To play these you can use termplay: http://angband.pl/termrec.html

I think this is long enough to give some insight into the early game and how I play in general; the early game is actually the part you can learn the most from watching a good player play, since it is the hardest part of the game. It was a pretty interesting game since TeNe is a reasonably powerful but extremely fragile combo, so you can see what I do when I want to play well. The death to Rupert was partly bad luck and partly bad play; if I'd read teleport again instead of trying to blink to safety there would have been no problems but I got lazy.

edit: the second recording was saved in .roff format for some reason, just rename it to .ttyrec and it works fine I think.

edit2: Note my water and maybe a couple other things are Unicode characters so termplay will freak out about them. You can maybe still figure out what is going on though, and it's not that big a deal since they're pretty rare characters.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
April 03 2012 20:33 GMT
#828
How do I save the files so that I can run it on termplay?
Whaaaa?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 03 2012 22:24 GMT
#829
On April 04 2012 05:33 Misder wrote:
How do I save the files so that I can run it on termplay?

Just save them as a .ttyrec somewhere on your hard drive and run termplay. (Download the binaries from the site I linked, run termplay on your own computer).
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 17:05:02
April 04 2012 21:21 GMT
#830
ok guys i got the dcss bug again and I couldnt resist just getting blazed and playing another hopr

So it was my first game in a few months. I had decided to start a new adventure and take it serious from the very start. (Sometimes I get into the habit of just auto-explore/attack for the first 10 levels or so, and usually end up making some stupid mistake and dying to gnolls or something.)

Spoiler'd for aesthetics

+ Show Spoiler +

I played a pretty uneventful first couple of levels. Found plate armor in a sewer dungeon early on, and was gifted two priests and a sorc as soon as I hit 3* piety. Smooth sailing, really. Eventually picked up a nice unique axe that dropped when a follower of mine died. He had been using it, but I wanted the axe, so I sacrificed him to some monsters and took it.

I ran into a orc red sorc and a large zombie squad gaurding mines. Ran into dragons and a huge flock of sheep gaurding the entrance of Lair.

It was clear that my army would be mostly spell based this time:

[image loading]
Smite heaven lol

Went down to lvl 17 without doing any branches yet. So far, nothing harder than unseen horrors or those color changing things. Found a rod of heal wounds, along with teleport and dig as well. Gaurdian spirit amulet + some ring that gives more mana inflating my health by like 40 points. Magic resist boots. Things are looking golden right now.

[image loading]
items

Army is growing nicely, and Blork also joined somewhere down the road. No real threats at this point because once I start fighting, the High Priests and Sorcs just flood the screen with summons.

[image loading]
Poor human...

This is as far as I've gotten so far. Im about to play some more and will update this as I go.

----------------update----------------

I overextended on D:18 and lost a red sorc due to a bad positioning on a level transition, but I managed to save most of my guys and even promoted a few more. I'm went into full retreat mode, and now I am in the lair. Besides the occasional Black Mamba or Hydra trying to omnomnom my orcs, its been fairly easy. The hardest part really is just controlling my men and making sure they dont charge off chasing something into the fog of war. Also found a +2/+1 battleaxe of chopping, so I imagine that is what I'll be using for a long time.

Found snakes on L:3. Decided to see how far I could make it there without poison resist.

Before
[image loading]
going to be a bloody battle

After
[image loading]
meh, actually wasnt that bad


--------------Update---------

ugh, ran into Xathu in a tight corridor on lvl 5 snake. He one shotted two high priests immediately, a regular priest, and a warrior like they were nothing. I blinked back and recalled my pathetic group of survivors and we zapped him before he could touch us again.

unfortunately then I got hit with some trident of distortion and it blinked me into 6 naga mages. I recalled my troops, but it was too late. I was dead in two turns.

RIP
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 21:29:11
April 04 2012 21:28 GMT
#831
On April 05 2012 06:21 ZaplinG wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
ok guys i got the dcss bug again and I couldnt resist just getting blazed and playing another hopr

So it was my first game in a few months. I had decided to start a new adventure and take it serious from the very start. (Sometimes I get into the habit of just auto-explore/attack for the first 10 levels or so, and usually end up making some stupid mistake and dying to gnolls or something.)

I played a pretty uneventful first couple of levels. Found plate armor in a sewer dungeon early on, and was gifted two priests and a sorc as soon as I hit 3* piety. Smooth sailing, really. Eventually picked up a nice unique axe that dropped when a follower of mine died. He had been using it, but I wanted the axe, so I sacrificed him to some monsters and took it.

I ran into a orc red sorc and a large zombie squad gaurding mines. Ran into dragons and a huge flock of sheep gaurding the entrance of Lair.

It was clear that my army would be mostly spell based this time:

[image loading]
Smite heaven lol

Went down to lvl 17 without doing any branches yet. So far, nothing harder than unseen horrors or those color changing things. Found a rod of heal wounds, along with teleport and dig as well. Gaurdian spirit amulet + some ring that gives more mana inflating my health by like 40 points. Magic resist boots. Things are looking golden right now.

[image loading]
items

Army is growing nicely, and Blork also joined somewhere down the road. No real threats at this point because once I start fighting, the High Priests and Sorcs just flood the screen with summons.

[image loading]
Poor human...

This is as far as I've gotten so far. Im about to play some more and will update this as I go.




Makes me want to go try out the tiles version rather than playing through puTTY, but I'm trying to level up my neckbeard so I'll have to put that off.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
April 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#832
I promise you, ascii is so much easier to read than tiles. drop into any swarm of monsters and you immediately spot the threats. it's particularly noticeable with demons - there's no mixing up a 4 with a 2 or a 1.
it's my first day
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#833
On April 05 2012 09:05 myopia wrote:
I promise you, ascii is so much easier to read than tiles. drop into any swarm of monsters and you immediately spot the threats. it's particularly noticeable with demons - there's no mixing up a 4 with a 2 or a 1.


true, but sometimes while playing ascii I wonder what the monster actually looks like ;P
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
April 05 2012 03:45 GMT
#834
If I wasn't able to use/equip stuff from my inventory I'd never get anything done. And memorizing what every symbol in the game represents would take a lot of time. Plus it looks nicer with tiles, and you don't look like quite as hipsterish when people see you using it. I took a bit of flak for dwarf fortress, lol.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 05 2012 07:22 GMT
#835
On April 05 2012 12:45 ThaZenith wrote:
If I wasn't able to use/equip stuff from my inventory I'd never get anything done. And memorizing what every symbol in the game represents would take a lot of time. Plus it looks nicer with tiles, and you don't look like quite as hipsterish when people see you using it. I took a bit of flak for dwarf fortress, lol.

You can certainly use items from your inventory in the console version. You don't get a mouse of any sort though.

As for memorizing what is what, the tiles don't really do a whole lot for you there necessarily. Can you tell from looking at the ettin tile that it is potentially the most dangerous monster in the game in melee range? No, you learn that from experience (or the knowledge bots); you get the same amount of memorization in tiles as in console. As far as differentiating between different monsters, I've been telling one letter apart from another for about 20 years now so I'm pretty good at that.

If you like tiles certainly go ahead and play tiles though.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 05 2012 08:48 GMT
#836
I updated the links to my commented game above since CAO compressed the files in the meantime. If anyone has any comments on it I'd like to hear them.
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Hipinretku
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland88 Posts
April 05 2012 12:23 GMT
#837
crate whats the reasoning of going TSO straight in HOFi instead of going Oka -> tso? Also do you just take INT every time you get to choose statup?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 05 2012 16:24 GMT
#838
On April 05 2012 21:23 Hipinretku wrote:
crate whats the reasoning of going TSO straight in HOFi instead of going Oka -> tso? Also do you just take INT every time you get to choose statup?

Because TSO is quite good for 3 runes and I wanted to try another game with him that way (angel summons are significantly stronger than either of Oka's two abilities, and the halo is pretty good too).

You take int at levelup if you already have all the str you need for your armour and want more int for your spells.
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Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
April 11 2012 14:21 GMT
#839
Hey guys, enjoying this thread and many thanks to the OP for introducing me to this great game. Been playing for over a month and am enjoying it a lot. I found minotaur berserker converting to TSO is an exceedingly strong combo. Last game I managed all 15 runes (Something I was unable to do with mountain dwarf and deep dwarf barbarians, it should be said though that deep dwarves are strong and DD casters are probably extremely easy. For a 3 rune game DD barbarian is also very viable). I've been wondering though, which magic school should I pursue once all my combat skills are maxed? I still haven't played a caster yet and don't know much about it.




This is my last game :
+ Show Spoiler +
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.9.2 character file.

1052472 Reveille the Axe Maniac (level 27, -21/385 (415) HPs)
Began as a Minotaur Berserker on Apr 3, 2012.
Was the Champion of The Shining One.
Demolished by an orc warlord
... wielding a +0,+0 orcish great sword
(37 damage)
... in level 13 of a ziggurat on Apr 11, 2012.
The game lasted 14:52:45 (176774 turns).

Reveille the Axe Maniac (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 176774, Time: 14:52:45

HP -21/385 (415) AC 50 Str 43 XL: 27
MP 22/47 EV 23 Int 4 God: The Shining One [******]
Gold 14816 SH 0 Dex 16 Spells: 1 memorised, 78 levels left

Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : . f - +9 executioner's axe (holy) {god gift}
Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . . p - +11 gold dragon armour
Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : + (no shield)
Res.Acid. : + . . Res.Corr. : + c - +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR}
Res.Poison: + Clarity : . k - +2 elf cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Res.Elec. : + Spirit.Shd : . m - +2 pair of gloves of the Cricket {Str+5 De
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . Z - +2 pair of orc boots {run}
Res.Mut. : + Ctrl.Telep.: . L - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . n - cursed +5,+6 ring of slaying
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . i - +0,+8 ring of slaying

@: berserking, hasted, very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: horns 2
a: Divine Shield, Cleansing Flame, Summon Divine Warrior, Renounce Religion
}: 15/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian, icy, bone, abyssal, demonic, glowing,
magical, fiery, dark


You were on level 13 of a ziggurat.
You worshipped The Shining One.
The Shining One was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 19 branches of the dungeon, and saw 113 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 7 times, and saw 72 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 2 times.
You visited 1 Labyrinth.
You visited 1 Ziggurat, and saw 13 of its levels.
You visited 6 portal chambers: sewer, ice cave, spiders nest, bailey, wizlab, trove.

You collected 22233 gold pieces.
You spent 4297 gold pieces at shops.
You used 3140 gold pieces for miscellaneous purposes.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
f - a +9,+9 executioner's axe of holy wrath (weapon) {god gift}
Armour
c - the +2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rF+ rC+ MR}
(You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)


It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.
It increases your resistance to enchantments.
k - a +2 elven cloak of preservation (worn)
m - the +2 pair of gloves of the Cricket (worn) {Str+5 Dex+4}
(You found it in Pandemonium)


It affects your strength (+5).
It affects your dexterity (+4).
p - a +11 gold dragon armour (worn)
t - a +2 pair of boots of levitation
Z - a +2 pair of orcish boots of running (worn)
Magical devices
o - a wand of teleportation (6)
v - a wand of fire (8)
w - a wand of fireball (4)
A - a wand of digging (7)
B - a wand of fireball (6)
E - a wand of digging (8)
K - a wand of teleportation (5)
P - a wand of hasting (6)
T - a wand of cold (8)
V - a wand of fire (12)
Comestibles
a - 47 bread rations
D - 11 royal jellies
Q - 2 meat rations
Scrolls
d - 3 scrolls of teleportation
h - a scroll of blinking
s - 3 scrolls of recharging
y - 7 scrolls of remove curse
z - 6 scrolls of detect curse
F - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
S - a scroll of enchant armour
Jewellery
e - the ring of Twimikap {rC+ AC+5 Int+2 Stlth++}
(You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)

[ring of protection]
It affects your AC (+5).

It affects your intelligence (+2).
It protects you from cold.
It makes you much more stealthy.
i - a +0,+8 ring of slaying (left hand)
j - the amulet of Olahim {Ward -TELE MR}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)

[amulet of warding]

It increases your resistance to enchantments.
It prevents most forms of teleportation.
n - a cursed +5,+6 ring of slaying (right hand)
u - the amulet of Areudgh {cFly rF+ Dam+2}
(You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)

[amulet of controlled flight]

It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+2).
It protects you from fire.
G - the amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR}
(You found it on level 10 of a ziggurat)

[amulet of clarity]

It protects you from negative energy.
It increases your resistance to enchantments.
I - the amulet "Ewoiweg" {unknown, cFly rC+ Dex+3 Int-2}
(You found it on level 10 of a ziggurat)

[amulet of controlled flight]

It affects your intelligence (-2).
It affects your dexterity (+3).
It protects you from cold.
L - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
M - the brooch of Shielding {Ward AC+4 EV+4}
(You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Vaults)

[amulet of warding]

It affects your AC (+4).
It affects your evasion (+4).

Back in the good old days, every adventurer had one of these handy devices.
That, and a pony.
N - an uncursed ring of teleport control
R - the amulet "Jazuc" {Spirit MR Dam+1}
(You found it on level 5 of the Elven Halls)

[amulet of guardian spirit]

It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+1).
It increases your resistance to enchantments.
X - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
Potions
g - 3 potions of speed
l - 2 potions of cure mutation
q - 5 potions of resistance
r - a potion of porridge
C - 4 potions of agility
H - 11 potions of restore abilities
J - 2 potions of heal wounds
O - 2 potions of berserk rage
W - 5 potions of might
Y - 3 potions of healing
Miscellaneous
b - the horn of Geryon
x - a legendary deck of defence {Flight, drawn: 2}


Skills:
O Level 27 Fighting
O Level 27 Axes
O Level 27 Armour
O Level 27 Dodging
- Level 9 Stealth
- Level 1 Stabbing
- Level 1 Shields
- Level 17 Traps & Doors
O Level 27 Unarmed Combat
O Level 27 Spellcasting
+ Level 25 Invocations
- Level 1 Evocations


You had 78 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Success Level Hunger
a - Stoneskin Erth/Trmt ##........ Poor 2 None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D
Elf (5/5) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:11 Shoals (5/5) Lair:3
Slime (6/6) Lair:6 Snake (5/5) Lair:3 Hive (2/2) D:11
Vault (8/8) D:16 Blade (1/1) Vault:4 Crypt (5/5) Vault:2
Tomb (3/3) Crypt:2 Dis (7/7) Hell Geh (7/7) Hell
Coc (7/7) Hell Tar (7/7) Hell Zot (4/5) D:27


........
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
April 13 2012 00:52 GMT
#840
Yay just had my first win, with a HoFi of TSO. Hardest part without a doubt was Tomb which I cleared with some ridiculous close calls. Surrounded by 5 guardian mummies at 14hp and no means of teleport at one point for example. Caught a lot of nasty mutations in Crypt:5 and had to change to Zin for his remove mutation perk. After that it was pretty much clear sailing.
It was only my 2nd go with TSO after getting hammered repeatedly when trying to make Oka work. So yeah, if youre having trouble getting a pure melee basher anywhere give TSO a go.
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