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Resistentialism
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crate
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Misder
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+ Show Spoiler + Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.9.0 character file. Misder the Blackguard (Spriggan Enchanter) Turns: 10297, Time: 01:02:05 HP 27/40 AC 5 Str 7 XL: 9 Next: 89% MP 13/22 EV 22 Int 17 God: Kikubaaqudgha [***...] Gold 403 SH 13 Dex 16 Spells: 6 memorised, 7 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + p - +2,+1 dwarf sabre Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . H - +1 elf robe {Archmagi} Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . j - +1 buckler Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted) Res.Poison: + Clarity : + y - +1 cloak Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . (gloves unavailable) Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (boots unavailable) Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . k - amulet of clarity Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . w - ring of poison resistance Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . q - ring of wizardry @: burdened, very quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, -10% mp, slow metabolism 3 a: Receive Corpses, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is greatly pleased with you. You are encumbered. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 11 of its levels. You have collected 383 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons p - a +2,+1 dwarven sabre (weapon) x - an uncursed lajatang of electrocution M - a +1,+1 dagger Missiles d - 9 +1 darts (quivered) Armour j - a +1 buckler (worn) y - a +1 cloak (worn) H - a +1 elven robe of the Archmagi (worn) Magical devices o - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 2} D - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} E - a wand of draining {zapped: 1} F - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} I - a wand of paralysis Comestibles v - 2 bread rations A - 13 strawberries B - 2 apples G - 2 chokos J - a lemon Scrolls a - a scroll labeled YRISAM GOCH g - 2 scrolls of blinking h - 2 scrolls of teleportation l - 3 scrolls of remove curse n - 3 scrolls of detect curse s - 2 scrolls of identify Jewellery k - an amulet of clarity (around neck) q - a ring of wizardry (left hand) w - a ring of poison resistance (right hand) L - an uncursed ring of protection from fire Potions b - a potion of levitation e - a potion of brilliance f - 4 potions of healing i - a potion of invisibility z - a potion of magic C - a potion of heal wounds Books c - a book of Maledictions Spells Type Level *Corona Hexes 1 *Sure Blade Hexes/Charms 2 *Ensorcelled Hibernation Hexes/Ice 2 *Confuse Hexes 3 Enslavement Hexes 4 Invisibility Hexes 6 m - a book of Necromancy {god gift} Spells Type Level Pain Necromancy 1 Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1 Lethal Infusion Charms/Necromancy 2 Vampiric Draining Necromancy 3 *Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 Dispel Undead Necromancy 4 Animate Dead Necromancy 4 r - a book of Death {god gift} Spells Type Level Corpse Rot Necromancy 2 Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 Agony Necromancy 5 Excruciating Wounds Charms/Necromancy 5 Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 6 u - a book of Spatial Translocations Spells Type Level Apportation Translocation 1 Portal Projectile Translocation 2 *Blink Translocation 2 Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 Teleport Other Translocation 3 Passage of Golubria Translocation 4 Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4 K - a book of the Dragon Spells Type Level Flight Charms/Air 4 Cause Fear Hexes 5 Bolt of Fire Conjuration/Fire 6 Dragon Form Fire/Transmutation 8 Summon Dragon Summoning 9 Miscellaneous t - a plain deck of war {Repulsiveness} Skills: - Level 1 Fighting + Level 4 Short Blades - Level 1 Throwing + Level 8 Dodging + Level 5 Stealth + Level 8 Stabbing + Level 2 Shields - Level 1 Traps & Doors + Level 6 Spellcasting * Level 7 Hexes + Level 1 Charms + Level 1 Necromancy + Level 1 Translocations - Level 1 Ice Magic You have 7 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Success Level Hunger a - Corona Hex ######.. Excellent 1 None b - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Hex #####.. Excellent 2 None c - Confuse Hex ######... Excellent 3 Choko d - Sure Blade Hex/Chrm #####..... Excellent 2 None e - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ###....... Great 3 Choko f - Blink Tloc N/A Great 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (0/4) D:7 Lair (2/8) D:8 Swamp: Lair:2-5 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna The Shining One Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). Message History You hit the quokka, but do no damage. The quokka barely misses you. You hit the quokka. The quokka is moderately wounded. The quokka completely misses you. You hit the quokka. You kill the quokka! Kikubaaqudgha accepts your kill. You see here a quokka corpse. Okay, then. Unknown command. Okay, then. Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands. Returning to the game... Search for what [? for help]? weapon Things that are here: an uncursed lajatang of electrocution; a +1,+1 dagger Char dumped to 'C:/Users/Owner/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Misder.txt'. You are being weighed down by all of your possessions. x - an uncursed lajatang of electrocution M - a +1,+1 dagger ########## ###### ##..#.#.#.###..... #...........#.#..# #.#P##.#.##.#.f### #.#########.#.## #.# ##.#.# #.# ######..f.# #.# #.@%[.....## #.# #.#.##.##..### ##'###..>.....>.... #........########## #.....%..## #.........# ####........## ##.......f#### #..........# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A giant toad (Lair:1) A manticore (D:8) 3 sky beasts An ice beast (D:7) 2 orc warriors A yellow wasp (D:8) A crocodile (Lair:1) 5 ogres A warg (D:7) A giant slug (Lair:1) Blork the orc (D:6) 8 giant frogs A killer bee zombie (D:6) 5 hounds 2 imps (D:6) 5 orc priests Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 5 orc wizards 2 scorpions An iguana (D:8) 3 worker ants A worker ant zombie (D:5) A jelly (D:8) Terence (D:2) 7 gnolls A giant centipede (Lair:1) 13 snakes 8 green rats (Lair:1) A scorpion zombie (D:6) A giant mite (D:7) 2 worms A bat skeleton (D:5) 5 giant eyeballs 6 giant geckos 29 orcs 22 bats 13 giant cockroaches 12 hobgoblins 12 jackals An ooze (D:2) 2 quokkas A giant newt (D:1) 19 goblins A hobgoblin skeleton (D:8) 2 jackal zombies 20 kobolds A kobold skeleton (D:6) 2 orc skeletons 14 rats 2 toadstools 252 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) An orc (D:7) A goblin (D:6) A hobgoblin (D:6) 4 fungi 14 toadstools 21 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 273 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Misder, the Spriggan Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 4/4 329 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 7/13 MP: 6/6 333 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 981 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 7/16 MP: 8/8 1068 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1301 | D:2 | Noticed Terence 1327 | D:2 | Defeated Terence 1327 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 15/21 MP: 4/12 2145 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 2250 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 2257 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 18/24 MP: 10/14 2266 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 2428 | D:3 | Noticed Misder's ghost (average SpEn) 2473 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 2959 | D:3 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -1). 2959 | D:3 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. 2960 | D:3 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). 2960 | D:3 | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. 2960 | D:3 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is very low (-20% MP). 2967 | D:3 | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is very low (-20% MP). 2967 | D:3 | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. 2967 | D:3 | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. 2967 | D:3 | Lost mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -1). 3093 | D:4 | Noticed Misder's ghost (average SpEn) 3198 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 3198 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing 3198 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 3198 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/28 MP: 10/15 3210 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3404 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 3417 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 3614 | D:5 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sure Blade 3976 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Stabbing 3976 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 26/32 MP: 13/16 4050 | D:4 | Noticed a hippogriff 4285 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors 4398 | D:6 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 4412 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4422 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 4470 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha 4511 | D:6 | Reached skill level 7 in Stabbing 4621 | D:6 | Noticed Blork the orc 4778 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 5187 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Stabbing 5187 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 33/37 MP: 13/18 5282 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 5492 | D:6 | Defeated Blork the orc 6102 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 6231 | D:7 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's first power 6231 | D:7 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 6237 | D:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration 6468 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 6510 | D:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 6731 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 6740 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 6785 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 6791 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 6792 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 6807 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 7488 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 36/40 MP: 17/20 7510 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 7519 | D:6 | Defeated Crazy Yiuf 7767 | D:7 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's second power 8290 | D:8 | Noticed a wandering mushroom 8743 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 8761 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9172 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 9518 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9848 | Lair:1 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10206 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
My 0.9 SpEn guide: SKILLS: Approximate goals are as follows: 1) 8 Stabbing. 2) Invisibility at Excellent and 10 Dodging/Stealth. 3) 12 Stabbing, 15 Dodging/Stealth, 6 Fighting, and enough Short Blades for min delay. 4) 27 Stealth, 10 Fighting, and whatever spell skills you want. STATS: Raise Str to 8, then raise Int. SPELLS: From the starting book: EH, Confuse, Invisibility (and Sure Blade to train Charms or if you want better melee). When you find them: other generally good spells like Haste, Repel Missiles, Regeneration, Dispel Undead, Apportation, Blink, Control Teleport, Phase Shift, Controlled Blink, etc. GODS: Kiku is best, but Ash, Lugonu, Nemelex, and Makhleb are all great choices. WEAPONS: Any short blade will work for stabbing, but switch to a dagger when possible. For regular melee, early on look for elec and venom weapons. Later look for a quick blade and/or pain brand a weapon with Kiku. Distortion is nice also. Oh, and get a buckler. Lajatang is a pretty good weapon and you only need 14 skill for min delay, and electrocution is a decent brand. But -3 apt and you can pain brand a shortblade with Kiku so I'm not sure if it's worthwhile (you could go either way ... lajatang will kill dudes faster but takes more xp to do it so you will have fewer spells). If you do want to use the lajatang you should probably pain brand it unless you either find another lajatang or really want that electrocution damage vs undead (probably not worth it since you can use Dispel Undead instead). You also don't get a buckler with the lajatang but that's not a huge deal. (edit: wait, you're on 0.9 ... probably not worth it to use the lajatang. It's 16 base damage in 0.10 instead of 14) Note that you don't need shortblades skill to stab with a dagger, so if you do decide to switch to the lajatang you don't need to keep training shortblades. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
I've used Elliptics guide to play all of my SpEn games haha. I think I'm just more concerned about in general, do you focus only one school of magic, and then branch, or is it ok to spread thin. For example, I want enough in Hexes for Invisibility to be Excellent, enough in Necromancy so that everything is in Excellent, enough in Charms/Air so that Deflect Missles is in Excellent, etc. To get to that goal though, is is better to focus on getting one at excellent before pursuing others? | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
After that, things get more fuzzy. Do you lack resists and/or are scared of enemy wizards? Get deflect. Are you feeling cool and want to be immortal? Get necromancy for death's door/lichform/zombies/whatever. You can't make a set strategy for every game because of the randomness. You must think on your feet and make a skilling decision on your own based on how your game has been going. Use the knowledge bots to look up spells and figure things out for yourself. IMO, though, focusing on one skill at a time is better than splitting up your xp too much. It leads to tedious micromanaging, and you can do fine without, but it's probably the "best." I just saw your file and noticed you have Spatial Translocations as well as Kiku. Need I remind you how unkillable a spriggan with Invisibility, controlled Blink and Death's Door is?  edit: also random question. in 0.10 the necromancer doesn't have Dispel Undead in his book anymore. Is it gone or just gone from that book? | ||
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myopia
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a) I've got a staff of air b) why spam earth elementals when you can spam earth and air elementals c) said elementals have rElec+++, so they won't mind lightning flying everywhere | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On January 17 2012 09:37 MrBitter wrote: Damn, lost my Orc Priest. Deepest run I've had. Picked up my first Rune, and died to Mennas on Vaults:4. He's really tough. I had him surrounded by Orc Knigs with a High Priest summoning nasty demons, and he just chewed through everything. He was in the super red HP when I died, but I still went down.  Fun run. Over 5 hours on in. Really could have won, but messed it up there at the end. Time to start over  Mennas is an interesting unique. His armor and aura are the things you need to keep in mind as you fight him, some classes will have an easier time polymorphing him into a 24-headed hydra. As a rule of thumb as with all polymorphs you need to decided whether you want what you poly to be squishier and hit harder or to be tankier and not hit as hard. Mennas, along with Mara and Xtahua is one of the three special uniques lategame that are either nearly impossible to kill, to escape from or both. On January 19 2012 04:03 myopia wrote: Can Spriggans make it as straight-up spellcasters late game? Their magic apts are confusing (conj -3?). I've got a post-Lair SpSt^Veh atm, who stabs most everything and spams Earth Elementals at the rest. I'm looking at going straight Air now (Earth is only lvl 5) because a) I've got a staff of air b) why spam earth elementals when you can spam earth and air elementals c) said elementals have rElec+++, so they won't mind lightning flying everywhere + Show Spoiler + With the nerfs to haste, kinda. However I wouldn't recommend that, since their built-in escape mechanisms don't sync well with the classic go-to lategame styles (death's door/necromutation, shatter spam, transmutations). Furthermore, rng hunger will become a big problem as you train spellcasting schools you have poor aptitudes for. Midgame gods can kinda make up for that but your lategame is still subpar, if anything I'm thinking Jyiva. Actually I only read the first sentence of what you said, reading it again I realized I was taking about super-lategame and you were talking about midgame. You can kind of do whatever, just don't starve and be mindful that your summons attack way more slowly than you. If you can micro and let them tank stuff in the open without being touched yourself then go for it, but it's a really hard and sometimes unreliable strategy. Just be swift and be stabby, spriggans are a gimmick race. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
Mara and Xtahua are no more difficult to run away from than other speed 10 uniques (Mara is actually easier than most because half of his spells don't directly hurt you, unless your clone is somehow really difficult to run away from and he clones you right away), I don't know why you mention them specifically. Xtahua is also not especially difficult to kill (15 AC/7 EV and 133 hp mean he is squishier than Boris for instance (unless you have Dispel Undead), and he is also less deadly unless you have rF-. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
(I make all my character choices based on 'will this get me past Lair?' followed by 'will this kill Zot dudes?') | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On January 19 2012 04:56 crate wrote: You can't poly Mennas into a hydra because he is holy. He will only poly into other holy things. It's probably still an improvement if you can manage to get around his 200 MR, I suppose, but even with a scroll of vulnerability and 27 evo it took a fair number of poly zaps in wizmode so you're unlikely to even have this matter. Mara and Xtahua are no more difficult to run away from than other speed 10 uniques (Mara is actually easier than most because half of his spells don't directly hurt you, unless your clone is somehow really difficult to run away from and he clones you right away), I don't know why you mention them specifically. Xtahua is also not especially difficult to kill (15 AC/7 EV and 133 hp mean he is squishier than Boris for instance (unless you have Dispel Undead), and he is also less deadly unless you have rF-. I didn't know about the first part, I'm guessing it's new to 0.9? Mara is no problem to run away from but is counted for his trickiness because of how he interacts with player scaling. Xtahua is usually more annoying than boris since deflect+blink+range make the latter a no-threat for mages. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
I disagree about Xtahua being more annoying than Boris. I also really don't see why deflect + blink + range is better against someone with no cooldowns on his ranged attacks (including one ranged attack that doesn't even check EV or dmsl) (Boris) than against someone with a cooldown on his sole ranged attack (Xtahua), especially since Boris has better defenses and resists than Xtahua does. (Margery is of course more dangerous than either of them though, since she comes with a pack of hell knights who like to haste themselves and fireball is a nice unavoidable 3d33.) | ||
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There should be an announcement about this somewhere when it's officially announced. | ||
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beef42
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defenestrate
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
Ya, so i spent a lot of time popping into rooms full of monsters, teleporting monsters i was trying to kill everywhere, etc. By the time I was floor 7, and had 50 health, i figured i'd try and take off the dagger. (since the wiki said some effects include damage, so I assumed i needed more hp to ensure i live) Nope, banished to the abyss at level 9. I managed to run for a surprisingly long time, teleporting randomly when their numbers started getting really highy. I thought the abyss was infinite but i ended up running into a dead end since I kept going in one direction. Amusingly though i found 4 previous uniques i had banished there. | ||
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