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Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
May 26 2011 21:14 GMT
#1021
Patch 1.1 for other than steam version around 30mb or smthing for steam 9gb cause it replaces a file with a new1 ;_;
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
May 26 2011 21:37 GMT
#1022
On May 27 2011 01:53 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 23:50 Madkipz wrote:
On May 25 2011 23:30 Klaent wrote:
On May 25 2011 23:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On May 25 2011 18:23 MR KING wrote:
console port, ugh. just finished witcher 1 and this just feels meh.


How is it a console port if it's not even on consoles....?

I hear ppl say this all the time, its kinda sad... Almost all games these days are console port, so ppl just assumes this one is aswell. But it's not, and its the best looking game ever made.


Quicktime events, minigames that use the mouse (analog stick) or movement keys WSAD (X, O, Square, triangle) and an easy to use interface / combat system and health regeneration outside combat are all characteristics of a console port.

the game uses just about 7 buttons in total on the keyboard and i think many players are under the impression that if the game is too streamlined and not enough of a challenge on a mechanical level rather than a strategic (thinking) level then its a console port.

Though i could be wrong but thats why i initially thought it was a console port or atleast had the impression that the game might be intended to be used on both pc and consoles.


While I agree that the interface screams of 'consolization', I have to wonder how health regen outside of combat is a console characteristic? It's more of a quality-of-life mechanic. Nobody wants to stand around eating/drinking for 30 seconds after every battle.


Halo did it first, I guess. The main point of pc gaming has never been quality of life, its about the challenge of the UI, inventory management and all the other things console devs remove or put on one universal button.
"Mudkip"
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
May 26 2011 21:38 GMT
#1023
On May 27 2011 06:14 Shagg wrote:
Patch 1.1 for other than steam version around 30mb or smthing for steam 9gb cause it replaces a file with a new1 ;_;

lol, gl downloading :D
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
TsoBadGuy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 21:46:59
May 26 2011 21:45 GMT
#1024
@Mischi - I had quoted you previously, but then it got leted somehow. So just know that this is entirely in reference to what you said.

I don't even know if there is a quickload hotkey. You can definitely press Esc and load a Savegame though before you die. This doesn't help too much though because the greatest danger is imo being one-hit from behind.
The only time i really needed this was in Chapter 2 for
+ Show Spoiler +
the quest in which you play the battle as a ghost, as you have to fight multiple enemies without the ability to dodge/use signs/use items at all. I reloaded every time I lost health, which made this quest really annoying.

You should also always watch out for the Quicktime Events, if you die in one of those the game will be over too.

I didn't have my Witcher 1 Savegames anymore, so I can't tell you anything about the second question. From what I've heard though, the differences are very small.[/QUOTE]

I was refering to hard loading, I should've been more specific. As in, you're in a bad spot, don't wanna try an get out of it, not about to die necessarily, but you get knocked down an surrounded. Could you load from Esc at that point.

And about your spoiler sir, I feel your pain so hard. I thought I might scream, because I was definitely talking in sarcasm like nerds do when they really want to scream, "YEAH! GREAT CHECKPOINT INTO BOSSFIGHT, OH WAIT!"

+ Show Spoiler +
Every time I was about to die to the big shield boss guy I internalized having to spend 5 or so minutes getting back through mobs and a mini-boss. Such rage...


And I hadn't really thought about QTE events like that either. In one particular fight there was a 3 button QTE event, and after doing it perfect the first few times and dying to other things, one of those time I hit right click instead of spacebar. Just a flustered mistake that could happen at any time. I wasn't even on the right side of my body. That's like having a typo with ¿ in it. I still wonder how I did it.
Bnet ID: TsoBadGuy Code: 795 Who wants friends? :D
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
May 26 2011 21:58 GMT
#1025
On May 27 2011 06:14 Shagg wrote:
Patch 1.1 for other than steam version around 30mb or smthing for steam 9gb cause it replaces a file with a new1 ;_;


lol, steam does that, a lot :D
There is no fate, but what we make.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May 26 2011 23:44 GMT
#1026
As far as the ending of Witcher 1 and the implications for Witcher 2 go:

+ Show Spoiler [Witcher 2 ending spoiler] +
I do think that Letho only talks about three people indeed, all of which are accounted for in the game. So the previous assassin must have been from a different Witcher clan, probably approached by Nilfgaard the same way the Viper clan was to assassinate Foltest directly?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 01:27:31
May 27 2011 01:26 GMT
#1027
I don't think so. I think there's a simpler explaination.

+ Show Spoiler +
Letho mentions another 2 of the Viper clan whose whereabouts are unknown, and that they could come out of hiding now. Given that Letho has two short blades that were similar to what Foltest's attempted assassin used, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the two died at Geralt's hands.


A bit of a loose end, as one would figure that Geralt would mention it at the very end. Especially since the ending of the first Witcher was so "WTF?!?" and the question of who exactly that was never gets resolved.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 05:06:39
May 27 2011 05:02 GMT
#1028
I don't understand why people thought that the ending was abrupt. To me, it ended right where it should have - and the epilogue ending + Show Spoiler +
where I let Letho walk
felt so appropriate and epic in an understated way.

I don't see any other game being Game of the Year for me. This right here is one of the Greats.


On May 27 2011 10:26 zer0das wrote:
I don't think so. I think there's a simpler explaination.

+ Show Spoiler +
Letho mentions another 2 of the Viper clan whose whereabouts are unknown, and that they could come out of hiding now. Given that Letho has two short blades that were similar to what Foltest's attempted assassin used, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the two died at Geralt's hands.


A bit of a loose end, as one would figure that Geralt would mention it at the very end. Especially since the ending of the first Witcher was so "WTF?!?" and the question of who exactly that was never gets resolved.


If you're talking about the master of the Order of the Flaming Rose, I believe that was + Show Spoiler +
Alvin
. Or were you referring to that other witcher? I forget his name now but I think he was from the Kaer Morhen school and not the Viper.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May 27 2011 09:19 GMT
#1029
On May 27 2011 10:26 zer0das wrote:
I don't think so. I think there's a simpler explaination.

+ Show Spoiler +
Letho mentions another 2 of the Viper clan whose whereabouts are unknown, and that they could come out of hiding now. Given that Letho has two short blades that were similar to what Foltest's attempted assassin used, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the two died at Geralt's hands.


A bit of a loose end, as one would figure that Geralt would mention it at the very end. Especially since the ending of the first Witcher was so "WTF?!?" and the question of who exactly that was never gets resolved.


I see. I suppose you are correct then.
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
May 27 2011 09:57 GMT
#1030
It might have been aswell other guy, not from those two Letho talked about at the end. In the books there is almost nothing about Viper school. Only that it exists as far I remember.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
May 27 2011 10:18 GMT
#1031
ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU ODRIN! WHERE ARE YOU

I did eventually find the bastard, but it had said I'd already failed the quest.

Decent game so far, but the combat is quite frustrating ><
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
May 27 2011 10:25 GMT
#1032
Can someone clarify the ending for me?

+ Show Spoiler +
So it was the Lodge that hired Lethos & co to kill the nothern kings and for what reasons? I know they didn't think that first king (the one killed before Foltest) wasn't an adequate ruler or whatever, but why Foltest? What was the Lodge's overall aim? How does Nilfgaard figure in with the assassinations if at all? Also, were those two assassins that tried to kill Henselt just two of Lethos's random goons?
vetinari
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia602 Posts
May 27 2011 10:39 GMT
#1033
On May 27 2011 19:25 djcube wrote:
Can someone clarify the ending for me?

+ Show Spoiler +
So it was the Lodge that hired Lethos & co to kill the nothern kings and for what reasons? I know they didn't think that first king (the one killed before Foltest) wasn't an adequate ruler or whatever, but why Foltest? What was the Lodge's overall aim? How does Nilfgaard figure in with the assassinations if at all? Also, were those two assassins that tried to kill Henselt just two of Lethos's random goons?


+ Show Spoiler +
It was the lodge who had letho kill demavend. Letho was working for the empire the whole time, however, and he killed foltest, and serrit/auckes (friends of letho's, and also witchers) tried to kill henselt. Nilfgaard wanted chaos in the northern realms, to make it easier to invade the north.

The lodge only wanted demavend killed, cause he was an asshole. They wanted saskia (spoiling the Iorveth path) + Show Spoiler +
a dragon, though the lodge didn't find out until after saskia was poisoned
to become ruler of the upper aedirn + pontar valley, to gain stability in the north, to better defend against nilfgaard.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 10:49:38
May 27 2011 10:43 GMT
#1034
On May 27 2011 19:25 djcube wrote:
Can someone clarify the ending for me?

+ Show Spoiler +
So it was the Lodge that hired Lethos & co to kill the nothern kings and for what reasons? I know they didn't think that first king (the one killed before Foltest) wasn't an adequate ruler or whatever, but why Foltest? What was the Lodge's overall aim? How does Nilfgaard figure in with the assassinations if at all? Also, were those two assassins that tried to kill Henselt just two of Lethos's random goons?


MASSIVE SPOILERS

+ Show Spoiler +
The Lodge is a secret society of sorceresses who want to influence and pretty much rule the world from the shadows through their positions as advisors to the kings. Their aim is to resurrect the system of The Council (or whatever it's called) which will allow them to outright decide which sorceress gets placed where. One of their aims was to get rid of the first king because they felt he was an ineffective ruler and should be replaced.

To this end, they hire Letho and Co. Unbeknownst to them, Letho and his friends are under contract from the Nilfgaardian empire, whose goal is to kill various kings in order to create instability in the North, creating a weakened geopolitical situation which is ripe for invasion by Nilfgaard. In return, Nilfgaard promises to rebuild the Viper Witcher school so that the Vipers can become a force again. Letho can't believe his luck that the Lodge wants him to kill a king, so he goes ahead knowing that he can frame the Lodge for all further regicides. His two friends attempt to kill Henselt.

Letho then decides to play the fool, tricking the Lodge to believe he had been indoctrinated by Iorveth. So after he kills Foltest, he returns to his "ally" Iorveth's area around Flotsam. (In fact he is just manipulating Iorveth's anti-human political bent). Sile de Tansarville comes to Flotsam to try to win back, or kill, Letho. In Act 2 she orders his death to cover up the Lodge's role in the regicides. Unfortunately Letho has set her and the Lodge up, and creates the illusion that the Lodge ordered Foltest's death and so on. This illusion was then used in Act 3 by the Nilfgaardian delegate to find a reason to arrest Sile and shine the light on the Lodge, all while obfuscating their role in several regicides. To this end Letho sabotages Sile's transportation gem as insurance.
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
May 27 2011 11:01 GMT
#1035
By the way if you guys want all the promo dlc stuff it has been released now for free, you can download it here:

http://wpc.420C.edgecastcdn.net/00420C/files/InstalDLC/dlc_finishers.exe
http://wpc.420C.edgecastcdn.net/00420C/files/InstalDLC/roche_jacket.exe
http://wpc.420C.edgecastcdn.net/00420C/files/InstalDLC/magical_suit.exe
http://wpc.420C.edgecastcdn.net/00420C/files/InstalDLC/swordsman_suit.exe
http://wpc.420C.edgecastcdn.net/00420C/files/InstalDLC/merchant.exe
http://wpc.420C.edgecastcdn.net/00420C/files/InstalDLC/alchemy_suit.exe

(You need to run them as admin for them to install succesfully)

Also if you are interested in old the witcher 1 saves, take a look here:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1900752

I don't even think you need to have the witcher 1 installed, just copy it to this location
C:\Users\(username)\Documents\The Witcher\saves
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
May 27 2011 11:07 GMT
#1036
Ok, thanks guys. Lol I should probably pay more attention while playing.

So a couple more followup questions then:

+ Show Spoiler +
1. Were those two assassins who tried killing Henselt (presumably witchers) the same two witchers from the Viper school that Lethos mentions at the end could come out of hiding now?

2. Why did Lethos need Iorveth for "protection" (hide the fact from Sile that he was actually working for Nilfgaard)? It seems like they both had leverage over the other as Lethos knew Sile ordered the first King to be killed and Sile knew Lethos had killed Foltest and could put a bounty on him. What was she trying to "win" him back for?

3. At the end, does anyone beside Geralt, Lethos, and Nilfgaard Empire actually know the truth behind the attacks?

4. I thought the Lodge was created by and consisted only of the Northern sorceresses because they were betrayed by their Nilfgaardian counterparts at the Thanned incident or something?
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 11:27:26
May 27 2011 11:21 GMT
#1037
+ Show Spoiler +
1. No those two were differnet persons.

2. Letho needed Iorweth to kill Foltest, he needed some help. Shila was trying to prob kill him after he tricked her and Lodge after killing king of Aedrin.

3. In a minute of Nilfgaard attack on Northern Kingdoms I think all pretty fast will come to clue that Nilfgaard was behind it all. Lodge knows about it also but like I said its easy to connect.

4. Lodge was created to take care of magic and ofc to have some influence in politcs. What happened on Thanned some of sorcerers betrayed Northern Kingdoms (Vilgefortz mainly), there was noone from Nilfgaard in Thanned. But that happened six years ago in witchers world so ofc by now they have come up with new more specific plans.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
May 27 2011 11:31 GMT
#1038
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, thanks for clarifying. Wow that was a stupid question, I completely overlooked that Iorveth helped Letho in the Foltest assassination.

Btw, it seems like you've read the novels. How close are these games to the actual canonical story?
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
May 27 2011 11:37 GMT
#1039
On May 27 2011 20:31 djcube wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, thanks for clarifying. Wow that was a stupid question, I completely overlooked that Iorveth helped Letho in the Foltest assassination.

Btw, it seems like you've read the novels. How close are these games to the actual canonical story?


Only read a couple of the books because not all of them are translated.

I think the games are supposed to take place after the story in the books, Geralt having lost memory of most of it. Sometimes you hear a reference to the books, like The butcher of Blaviken, or the mentioning of Yennefer. I won't spoil them, but it is safe to say they are worth a read.
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 11:43:58
May 27 2011 11:42 GMT
#1040
Witcher 1 was barely connected to the books. If not to mention striga and ofc some characters that (and maybe nonhumans - humans conflict) game was totally something new, story wasnt any kind of continuation. Wicther 2 looks better in that case, we have all this political stuff and wars what was background in books. Main line was whole Geralf - Yennefer - Ciri story and in second witcher they touched that topic. I would say that Witcher 2 is actual continuation of books. For sure politcal part has develop in this game, Probably in WItcher 3 we will see back of + Show Spoiler +
Geralt - Yennefer
combined with politics + Show Spoiler +
( war just started at the end of the game)
.
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