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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
May 17 2011 16:39 GMT
#361
Weird. The original Witcher only ran with medium settings and Witcher 2 works smoothly with great settings! AWESOME!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 16:44:16
May 17 2011 16:41 GMT
#362
i have very high hopes.

imo witcher (enhanced edition) was more 'complete' than dragon age origins... excellent characters, story and although slightly repeatitive - the gameplay was fun.

dragon age was insane story and storyteling, but the characters were so cliche and felt too 'mainstream'. not to mention the game mechanics were rushed, for example mages were best to put 100% attribute into magic stat - the other stats were obsolete... why have more mana when your cone of cold instagibs everything? plus, tanks and imba spells made the game too easy.

dragon age 2 could have been an unbelievably good game, except they recycled the areas which is totally unforgivable. imagine starcraft 2 campaign if every mission was made using 'scrap station' map with slight modifications. yeah - so much for exploration and immersion which are the two most important things in RPG.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 17 2011 16:49 GMT
#363
On May 18 2011 01:14 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 01:10 Corvi wrote:
On May 18 2011 00:36 IntoTheWow wrote:
Anyone mind explaining the hype of this game for me? I watched a bunch of videos and thought graphically it looks very good, the combat seems pretty dull. I see everyone releasing a combo, rolling back, combo, rolling back, etc.

I don't mean to sound insulting, just wondering what the shitty youtube reviews are missing, since everyone is so happy this game is out and I don't know why


the developer didnt jump (at least not as much) on the console kid bandwagon, as bioware and square. this game is darker, less forgiving and less linear than nearly all other current rpgs.

didnt play much yet, but at least that is what i expect, if it is anywhere near the witcher 1.


I didn't play The Witcher one, but from the videos it doesn't look like a RPG at all. More like a slower paced God of War (not to sound insulting again, sorry!) At least that's the impression I got from the videos. Are quests fun? Do you have to do talking? What RPG elements does it have? In the few reviews I watched he killed most enemies in 2 combos. Does that change by leveling up?

edit: Ok, by reading the comments it seems combat isn't button smashing, but it has some thinking going on?

It does require a lot of strategy on higher difficulty settings (first one). The second one is basically hard on normal. A lot of people are dying at least 20 times before the prologue is over, rofl. Half your HP can be taken in one hit so you have to be pretty good at dodging and mixing certain potions to overcome obstacles.

But honestly, I think The Witcher is most known for a well written story and very immersive environments. The immersion is really what sells it. And the second one is seeming to be better at that so far.
Hark!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 17 2011 16:54 GMT
#364
On May 18 2011 01:49 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 01:14 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 18 2011 01:10 Corvi wrote:
On May 18 2011 00:36 IntoTheWow wrote:
Anyone mind explaining the hype of this game for me? I watched a bunch of videos and thought graphically it looks very good, the combat seems pretty dull. I see everyone releasing a combo, rolling back, combo, rolling back, etc.

I don't mean to sound insulting, just wondering what the shitty youtube reviews are missing, since everyone is so happy this game is out and I don't know why


the developer didnt jump (at least not as much) on the console kid bandwagon, as bioware and square. this game is darker, less forgiving and less linear than nearly all other current rpgs.

didnt play much yet, but at least that is what i expect, if it is anywhere near the witcher 1.


I didn't play The Witcher one, but from the videos it doesn't look like a RPG at all. More like a slower paced God of War (not to sound insulting again, sorry!) At least that's the impression I got from the videos. Are quests fun? Do you have to do talking? What RPG elements does it have? In the few reviews I watched he killed most enemies in 2 combos. Does that change by leveling up?

edit: Ok, by reading the comments it seems combat isn't button smashing, but it has some thinking going on?

It does require a lot of strategy on higher difficulty settings (first one). The second one is basically hard on normal. A lot of people are dying at least 20 times before the prologue is over, rofl. Half your HP can be taken in one hit so you have to be pretty good at dodging and mixing certain potions to overcome obstacles.

But honestly, I think The Witcher is most known for a well written story and very immersive environments. The immersion is really what sells it. And the second one is seeming to be better at that so far.


Thanks!
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Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
May 17 2011 17:14 GMT
#365
@IntoTheWow.
Haven't played W2 much yet, only a bit, but it looks pretty similar to W1 in many aspects, so I'll tell from my previous experience. The game itself is kinda sum of its parts. Sure, it has nice graphics, but I would definitely say that storyline is the best part of the game. About combat - well, it is not only 2 combos. There is a whole system that evolves as your character is leveling up (there are two swords (one used on humans, one on monsters) with 3 basic styles - quick, strong, and group style. Each style at first has a seqence of 2 - 3 combos and there are more and more as you progress + so called finishers). With talents you gain you can not only add more combos, but also some special abilities to them. Not sure about W2 yet, but in W1 you had gold, silver, and bronze talents, which you could use on upgrading your character (silver and gold were limited so you had to choose your skills wisely). Apart from that there are 5 signs you can use in a battle too (it is possible to spend your talents on them). So its a tree of skills like in most of RPG's. Moreover there are is alchemy and mixtures with many cool efects that expand your witchers abilities' + a ton of other stuff not mentioned. Quest are cool (many additional ones) + your choices alter the storyline.

For me W1 was a game that changed me from an adult who stopped enjoying video games long ago to a kid obsessed about playing for XX hours a day. And that should be the best recommendation. Even Sc2 had lesser impact on me than W.

Si vis pacem para bellum
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 17:20:49
May 17 2011 17:20 GMT
#366
High masters Terran switching to... Witcher 2?...

I enjoyed the first Witcher SO MUCH, this is going to be awesome x)
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 17 2011 17:20 GMT
#367
On May 18 2011 01:54 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 01:49 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On May 18 2011 01:14 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 18 2011 01:10 Corvi wrote:
On May 18 2011 00:36 IntoTheWow wrote:
Anyone mind explaining the hype of this game for me? I watched a bunch of videos and thought graphically it looks very good, the combat seems pretty dull. I see everyone releasing a combo, rolling back, combo, rolling back, etc.

I don't mean to sound insulting, just wondering what the shitty youtube reviews are missing, since everyone is so happy this game is out and I don't know why


the developer didnt jump (at least not as much) on the console kid bandwagon, as bioware and square. this game is darker, less forgiving and less linear than nearly all other current rpgs.

didnt play much yet, but at least that is what i expect, if it is anywhere near the witcher 1.


I didn't play The Witcher one, but from the videos it doesn't look like a RPG at all. More like a slower paced God of War (not to sound insulting again, sorry!) At least that's the impression I got from the videos. Are quests fun? Do you have to do talking? What RPG elements does it have? In the few reviews I watched he killed most enemies in 2 combos. Does that change by leveling up?

edit: Ok, by reading the comments it seems combat isn't button smashing, but it has some thinking going on?

It does require a lot of strategy on higher difficulty settings (first one). The second one is basically hard on normal. A lot of people are dying at least 20 times before the prologue is over, rofl. Half your HP can be taken in one hit so you have to be pretty good at dodging and mixing certain potions to overcome obstacles.

But honestly, I think The Witcher is most known for a well written story and very immersive environments. The immersion is really what sells it. And the second one is seeming to be better at that so far.


Thanks!

No problem . You should try it from gog right now. TW1: Enhanced Edition is only like 5$. Very cheap to try out one of the best cRPGs in a long time (Imo).
Hark!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 17 2011 17:24 GMT
#368
Thanks Brainiac too! I'm going to try it out : D
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junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
May 17 2011 17:55 GMT
#369
On May 18 2011 00:36 IntoTheWow wrote:
Anyone mind explaining the hype of this game for me? I watched a bunch of videos and thought graphically it looks very good, the combat seems pretty dull. I see everyone releasing a combo, rolling back, combo, rolling back, etc.

I don't mean to sound insulting, just wondering what the shitty youtube reviews are missing, since everyone is so happy this game is out and I don't know why


Story is amazing.
the UMP says YER OUT
incifan
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 17:57:18
May 17 2011 17:56 GMT
#370
I don't get the weird combat system. No tutorial at all. I am also unable to see when I should hit block to actually block an attack from someone. Very annyoing. Sure I can mash my left mousebutten and win, but that is kinda pointless and reminds me of Assassins Creed.
walletwaffle
Profile Joined January 2011
67 Posts
May 17 2011 17:59 GMT
#371
On May 18 2011 02:24 IntoTheWow wrote:
Thanks Brainiac too! I'm going to try it out : D


Adding on to what's been said, the combat system has improved by quite a bit since Witcher 1, but it's still fairly average. If you need fun battles to keep you interested in a game/if you got bored with other Western RPGs with less than spectacular combat like Oblivion or Fallout 3, I wouldn't recommend either of the Witcher titles.

If you like interesting characters, settings, and plots though, you're in for a treat.
Qweasdzxc
Profile Joined July 2010
215 Posts
May 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#372
I am new to Witcher 2. So I think i might be playing it wrong. Is parrying/blocking useless? Because all I am doing is rolling away whenever they are going to attack and cast spells/attack with melee whenever they are open
walletwaffle
Profile Joined January 2011
67 Posts
May 17 2011 18:13 GMT
#373
On May 18 2011 02:56 ico wrote:
I don't get the weird combat system. No tutorial at all. I am also unable to see when I should hit block to actually block an attack from someone. Very annyoing. Sure I can mash my left mousebutten and win, but that is kinda pointless and reminds me of Assassins Creed.


Enemies typically swipe at you when you are in range of their weapons. Try parrying as you come into range and just keep the button pressed until the enemy attacks.

You will eventually encounter enemies whose attacks you will either need to parry or dodge around before landing a blow so try to learn now. Though of course you can just run around and use Igni until everything has become ash.

One other tip: try casting Quen before engaging tough enemies. When they attack, they will do less/no damage and they will be open to counterattacks.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 18:25:44
May 17 2011 18:22 GMT
#374
I played the game 2 hours. And it's freaking awesome!

I don't want to say that it is the best RPG game I ever played but it certainly has the coolest combat mechanics.

And also, 1080p, high all, übersampling on, i couldnt get any higher than 22fps.

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Scodia
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 18:27:58
May 17 2011 18:23 GMT
#375
For people having issues with gfx and low fps. i've heard that the current nvidia drivers are not the best for it, and i've seen screen shots of before and after of someone using the latest beta drviers where they had 20fps on low with old drivers 60fps on high with beta drviers. when i get home from work i'll track down links.

unless u want to do some digging urself


**Edit 1/2**
quiet spell at work, here's a link to the drivers from Nvidia's website

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-275.27-beta-driver.html

The Witcher 2 – Improved 3D Vision compatibility for all in-game effects

The only thing mentioned specifically for the witcher2, however people are reporting smoother fps and better performance with these new drivers.
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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 17 2011 18:26 GMT
#376
I'm about to finish the prologue. The step up in difficulty is NICE. I've died about 10 times and I beat the Witcher 1 on hard without dying at all. I'm actually having to use strategy, especially on the gang of dudes with the badass knight outside the gate.
Hark!
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
May 17 2011 18:27 GMT
#377
And one more thing,
Cutscene graphics are not so good. Actually bad.
I did expect better.
There is no fate, but what we make.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 17 2011 18:30 GMT
#378
The developers said the combat was inspired by Arkham Asylum and I think it shows. I really like it so far, even though I thought the combat looked really boring in the preview videos they put out. The game doesn't exactly hold your hand though,

On May 18 2011 03:27 Invoker wrote:
And one more thing,
Cutscene graphics are not so good. Actually bad.
I did expect better.

Try not running it on low.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
May 17 2011 18:33 GMT
#379
Running it on low? ROFL.

All settings are high, just übersampling off. It looks bad.
There is no fate, but what we make.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 18:43:49
May 17 2011 18:39 GMT
#380
Cutscene graphics are awesome imo. Geralt scars are pixely, but everything else is great.

I'm so FULL on crafting materials, but i don't want to drop anything.

I'm in the second town area at the moment. When you guys find the snare, you should use it. It's so awesome, and you can re-use it.
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