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Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
December 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#2401
With the 3x SC and 15% off vehicle weapons i could not stop myself from buying the grenade launcher for the flash. Its actually hilarious.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
December 21 2012 21:45 GMT
#2402
Right.

I lag in Planetside 2 in giant battles, I get about 25 frames per second tops in big battles, while I get 45+ in a normal base.
Now I was wondering if someone can help me find out what's the issue? My specs pass the ''recommended specs'' of PS2, except for my RAM

I have a
HD Radeon 6970
AMD Phenom II X6 @ 2.8Ghz
4GB of RAM (2x2GB)
ASrock 870 Extreme3

I run Windows 7 Ultimate at 64 bits, too.


Does anyone have a clue what might be bottlenecking me? I was thinking RAM, but does it really matter for the FPS I'm getting? Even at low settings I get these framedrops.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
December 21 2012 21:50 GMT
#2403
On December 22 2012 06:45 Thalandros wrote:
Right.

I lag in Planetside 2 in giant battles, I get about 25 frames per second tops in big battles, while I get 45+ in a normal base.
Now I was wondering if someone can help me find out what's the issue? My specs pass the ''recommended specs'' of PS2, except for my RAM

I have a
HD Radeon 6970
AMD Phenom II X6 @ 2.8Ghz
4GB of RAM (2x2GB)
ASrock 870 Extreme3

I run Windows 7 Ultimate at 64 bits, too.


Does anyone have a clue what might be bottlenecking me? I was thinking RAM, but does it really matter for the FPS I'm getting? Even at low settings I get these framedrops.

Planetside 2 is a very cpu based game and you don't have a very good CPU.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
December 21 2012 22:01 GMT
#2404
I'm at/above the recommended spec list though. Is the CPU so bad that I cannot run it above 25 FPS in big battles?
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Vearo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada168 Posts
December 21 2012 22:16 GMT
#2405
On December 22 2012 07:01 Thalandros wrote:
I'm at/above the recommended spec list though. Is the CPU so bad that I cannot run it above 25 FPS in big battles?


I have a Phenom II x4 at 3.8GHz, and have trouble keeping a framerate above 30 fps at larger confrontations. There is also a memory leak, which will reduce performance as you play.

You can try getting more RAM and/or overclocking, but I am not sure how far either will get you. There is also supposed to be a performance patch in January.

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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 22:19:58
December 21 2012 22:17 GMT
#2406
On December 22 2012 07:01 Thalandros wrote:
I'm at/above the recommended spec list though. Is the CPU so bad that I cannot run it above 25 FPS in big battles?



Don't worry, most people can't.

PS2 is not very optimized at the moment, it has a lot of FPS issues even for high-end systems.
Press Alt-F to see if you are CPU or GPU bound.

If you are CPU bound, it helps to disable shadows in the ini file (Value 0 which you can't set ingame).
If you are GPU bound, stuff like reducing the render distance and general graphics quality will help.
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 01:27:06
December 22 2012 01:22 GMT
#2407
On December 22 2012 06:45 Thalandros wrote:
Right.

I lag in Planetside 2 in giant battles, I get about 25 frames per second tops in big battles, while I get 45+ in a normal base.
Now I was wondering if someone can help me find out what's the issue? My specs pass the ''recommended specs'' of PS2, except for my RAM

I have a
HD Radeon 6970
AMD Phenom II X6 @ 2.8Ghz
4GB of RAM (2x2GB)
ASrock 870 Extreme3

I run Windows 7 Ultimate at 64 bits, too.


Does anyone have a clue what might be bottlenecking me? I was thinking RAM, but does it really matter for the FPS I'm getting? Even at low settings I get these framedrops.


Get at least another 2gb of RAM, its dirt cheap so get 4 more if you can, thats about all you'll need really. If you can splash out its always nicer to get the same RAM ( not necessarily same make, just same BUS sizes etc ), and have it arranged properly for dual channel support (usually colour coded), its not going to make a huge difference though so dont prioritize that.

I wouldn't be surprised if that helped a bit, but not enough as your cpu is ooooold, get an i5 3970K or something similar, they're good, presumably you'll be buying a new mobo, I'd avoid ASRock personally, they aren't reliable and they aren't as good as manufacturers like ASUS or MSI.
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 04:50:59
December 22 2012 04:50 GMT
#2408
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
December 22 2012 05:33 GMT
#2409
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


Weapons take the most certs to unlock. I earned around 400 today, and it felt like an off day for me as far as my performance. Try running with us on Mattherson.
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soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 22 2012 05:43 GMT
#2410
i run a amd x4 phenom 2 @ 3.9ghz

couple things i did to get decent fps
overclocked cpu/gpu
used unpark cpu program
changed ini settings to set shadows/view distance
everything else to low

get around 30-90fps away from the zerg
around 15-30 in zerg
young ho
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 22 2012 05:49 GMT
#2411
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


there are certain affordable weapons that are nice upgrades that are around 250-500
vehicle weapons, i wouldn't purchase any infantry weapons yet

things id get first
maybe heat for the lightning(cheap and 1 shots infantry)
upgrades for default weapons(scopes,forward grip)
maybe save up for other max anti air weapon
engineer tool upgrade
medkit
etc
young ho
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
December 22 2012 05:52 GMT
#2412
On December 22 2012 14:33 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


Weapons take the most certs to unlock. I earned around 400 today, and it felt like an off day for me as far as my performance. Try running with us on Mattherson.

I think at the moment I'd be a bit of a liability. No idea what I'm doing.

On December 22 2012 14:49 soullogik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


there are certain affordable weapons that are nice upgrades that are around 250-500
vehicle weapons, i wouldn't purchase any infantry weapons yet

things id get first
maybe heat for the lightning(cheap and 1 shots infantry)
upgrades for default weapons(scopes,forward grip)
maybe save up for other max anti air weapon
engineer tool upgrade
medkit
etc

Cheers. I'll bear that in mind.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
December 22 2012 05:57 GMT
#2413
On December 22 2012 14:52 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 14:33 Rah wrote:
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


Weapons take the most certs to unlock. I earned around 400 today, and it felt like an off day for me as far as my performance. Try running with us on Mattherson.

I think at the moment I'd be a bit of a liability. No idea what I'm doing.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 14:49 soullogik wrote:
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


there are certain affordable weapons that are nice upgrades that are around 250-500
vehicle weapons, i wouldn't purchase any infantry weapons yet

things id get first
maybe heat for the lightning(cheap and 1 shots infantry)
upgrades for default weapons(scopes,forward grip)
maybe save up for other max anti air weapon
engineer tool upgrade
medkit
etc

Cheers. I'll bear that in mind.


Most infantry weapon upgrades are more or less sidegrade weapons. Better for particular things but worse at others. The defaults are all pretty average at everything. Barring the snipers from TR and VS though. NC bolt shot one shots. Default for VS and TR are semi autos and require multiple shots. That'd be the only real straight forward "upgrade." Depending on how you like to snipe.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 22 2012 05:59 GMT
#2414
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


There are a lot of very essential upgrades that are 100-, such as nanomite armor and utilities for both infantry and vehicles. The certs you earn should go towards unlocking those. You don't really need to unlock any new weapons because for most classes, the one you get is the best for general purposes. You will need to either get a second flak gun on the Max or the guided missile on the heavy to shoot down aircraft well, but you can just depend on teammates to do that for you.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 22 2012 06:18 GMT
#2415
On December 22 2012 13:50 xsksc wrote:
Hmm. I'm enjoying it so far, but I played a couple of hours tonight and I didn't get anywhere near enough certs to unlock a new gun... is it meant to take a really really long time? Some of the guns were 1000 and I only got around 25. T_T
I don't really want to spend money so I'd much prefer unlocking shit by playing.


if your VS i recommend the following guns

Heavy= LSW
Medic = H-V45
Engineer/Light Assault share the same guns = VX6-7

For Magriders: =
Rival Combat Chasis(faster strafe speed)
Frontal Armor
MagBurner
Saron Anti-vehicle turret

Hope those help
Mew Mew Pew Pew
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
December 22 2012 06:50 GMT
#2416
Rah, what is your outfit's in game tag? I play VS on the same server and want to know if I'm killing any of you
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
December 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#2417
I just started playing on Mattherson as TR, and this game is already getting to me.

Apparently, I cannot move more than a snail's pace unless I drop my gun and run forward, and that's also kind of slow. In order to hit anybody, I have to stand completely still and cover half the screen with my gun. Half the time, the bad guys are wearing funky colors, and I can't win a firefight. It's just "Oh hey he's wearing 30% blue, he must be NC" and then 1.5 seconds later I get to wait 10 seconds to respawn, then spend a minute or two running back to wherever.

Is this how Call of Duty plays or something? I can't for the life of me understand why they'd do this...

Also, when is everyone on?
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 07:33:17
December 22 2012 07:25 GMT
#2418
I'll echo the sentiment that upgrading to a new weapon right off the bat is a waste. Improving your class ability makes you far more effective than a new gun (unless you want the bolt action for the infiltrator).

On December 22 2012 16:20 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
I just started playing on Mattherson as TR, and this game is already getting to me.

Apparently, I cannot move more than a snail's pace unless I drop my gun and run forward, and that's also kind of slow. In order to hit anybody, I have to stand completely still and cover half the screen with my gun. Half the time, the bad guys are wearing funky colors, and I can't win a firefight. It's just "Oh hey he's wearing 30% blue, he must be NC" and then 1.5 seconds later I get to wait 10 seconds to respawn, then spend a minute or two running back to wherever.

Is this how Call of Duty plays or something? I can't for the life of me understand why they'd do this...

Also, when is everyone on?

The movement speed is plenty fast. If you're attempting to run across the map from hex to hex, you're doing it wrong. Spawn a vehicle instead. Half the game is managing the logistics of transporting/spawning friendly troops.

As for enemy identification, enemies have a red indicator above their head, or no indicator at all. Friendlies will ALWAYS have a non-red indicator (blue for default, green/orangish/some other colors for squad/platoon members).

What class are you playing? Some classes are rather disadvantaged in straight up combat. Since the time to kill is very short, positioning is key. If you can catch the enemy unaware, you can kill him 90% of the time.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
December 22 2012 07:26 GMT
#2419
On December 22 2012 16:20 Ooshmagoosh wrote:
I just started playing on Mattherson as TR, and this game is already getting to me.

Apparently, I cannot move more than a snail's pace unless I drop my gun and run forward, and that's also kind of slow. In order to hit anybody, I have to stand completely still and cover half the screen with my gun. Half the time, the bad guys are wearing funky colors, and I can't win a firefight. It's just "Oh hey he's wearing 30% blue, he must be NC" and then 1.5 seconds later I get to wait 10 seconds to respawn, then spend a minute or two running back to wherever.

Is this how Call of Duty plays or something? I can't for the life of me understand why they'd do this...

Also, when is everyone on?


Not call of duty at all. In cod its a time to kill of like 0.3 seconds . In Planetside its about 1.5 seconds. WAY longer to kill. Characters are alot smaller in planetside aswell. Harder to hit
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 09:59:00
December 22 2012 09:54 GMT
#2420
On December 22 2012 10:22 adwodon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 06:45 Thalandros wrote:
Right.

I lag in Planetside 2 in giant battles, I get about 25 frames per second tops in big battles, while I get 45+ in a normal base.
Now I was wondering if someone can help me find out what's the issue? My specs pass the ''recommended specs'' of PS2, except for my RAM

I have a
HD Radeon 6970
AMD Phenom II X6 @ 2.8Ghz
4GB of RAM (2x2GB)
ASrock 870 Extreme3

I run Windows 7 Ultimate at 64 bits, too.


Does anyone have a clue what might be bottlenecking me? I was thinking RAM, but does it really matter for the FPS I'm getting? Even at low settings I get these framedrops.


Get at least another 2gb of RAM, its dirt cheap so get 4 more if you can, thats about all you'll need really. If you can splash out its always nicer to get the same RAM ( not necessarily same make, just same BUS sizes etc ), and have it arranged properly for dual channel support (usually colour coded), its not going to make a huge difference though so dont prioritize that.

I wouldn't be surprised if that helped a bit, but not enough as your cpu is ooooold, get an i5 3970K or something similar, they're good, presumably you'll be buying a new mobo, I'd avoid ASRock personally, they aren't reliable and they aren't as good as manufacturers like ASUS or MSI.

4gb is more than enough, increasing ram capacity won't give better fps. As it is for almost everybody the bottle neck in big battles is the cpu.
I have an i5 760 and the best I can get in big battles while flying is 20-25 fps. I hope they can improve the optimisation, but in the other hand it's understandable that the game is ressource intensive. I mean, having a battle with hundreds of players, explosions everywhere, reavers dogfighting mosquitoes comes to a price.

Concerning the price of weapons, yes they are really expensive. However you can be vert effective with the basics weapons. The only one that are really mandatory I feel are AA missiles on ESF and rocket pods. Double burster max also makes a big difference. However you can be very effective with light assault, heavy assault or infiltrator with a reasonnable cert investment.
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