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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6226 Posts
February 07 2013 08:09 GMT
#9741
As dumb as the general sentiment is, there's a good point buried in there; bf3 really does degenerate into rapeville extremely often. On the servers I frequent, perhaps one game in three (even before clanstacks) ends on a 0-600 ticket count.

Personally, I would love to see some kind of handicap system where teams with all 5 points spawn vehicles more slowly or lose points quicker or something. It really does suck being stuck on your uncap for 20 minutes if your team is balls.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 07 2013 08:35 GMT
#9742
Most of the servers I play on have Auto Balance at the end of the map. I dont know how it works (whether its based on K:D or Score) but it seems pretty reasonable, even it if just means one team gets owned every second map... it still mixes it up, and means you cant just W+M1 everywhere.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 07 2013 08:46 GMT
#9743
On February 07 2013 07:53 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Lol, have you ever played a non-competitive shooter before? I'm seriously curious, because I don't really see how anyone has ever come up with a credible solution for matchmaking for games like these.

Just because someone is high rank doesn't mean he's any better than a fresh rank 1. In fact I'd say, 99% of all players in the game are just so utterly terrible that it's frustrating to play any pub game at all in some way or another.
Besides, it's been this exact way since bf1942, if you came into this game expecting anything different, then you were either mislead or naive.

Using the term nerd as an insult also doesn't make you look very smart on a goddamn forum dedicated to competitive gaming.


Are you that stupid? The non-excistent matchmaking is not terrible because people are level100! Of course level100 nerds are better than level1 newbies, because they played the game like 100+ hrs.
I've never see a level10 abuse heli/jets like the level100 nerds do!

And btw BF3 is anything but NOT COMPETETIVE! Its like FIFA - no competition at all. Its a bunch of kids/casuals playing after work.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 07 2013 10:53 GMT
#9744
On February 07 2013 17:46 Slackzftw wrote:
And btw BF3 is anything but NOT COMPETETIVE! Its like FIFA - no competition at all. Its a bunch of kids/casuals playing after work.


I have the feeling you missed what he was saying there
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
February 07 2013 11:36 GMT
#9745
Pretty sure you didn't understand anything out of what I wrote. Of course experience helps, and rank is basically a show of how long you've played the game in most cases. That's not even close to what I mentioned though. In terms of actual skill, aim, predictability, tactics etc. anyone can come into the game and have all of these be better than a lot of people with high ranks.

You're not going to be able to implement a matchmaking system into the clusterfuck that is battlefields massive gap inbetween the decent and all the rest. It's just never going to be completely fair no matter what you do. What you cando is get better, and take the so called "nerd" fight in vehicles to them yourself and destroy them. Most pubstars really aren't that amazing.

+ Show Spoiler +


Take a look at this for example. A highly rated mad little kid who has played for ages and is ranked very highly in terms of stats. Get's taken out repeatedly by someone genuinely good.

It's either get good enough yourself to be that factor who can imbalance matches in your own favor, or it's cry that the game is unfair and end up spamming noshar TDM 24/7 only or Operation clusterfuck 24/7 only.

There are times when servers are massively unbalanced, but guess what you simply leave the server and go play on another one. It's not like you lose anything by doing so when there's no competitive ladder or Elo system in place. Go play where you find it fun, but keep in mind that battlefield at heart is an FPS game that has a vehicular focus. If you can't deal with that fact, then maybe you had the wrong expectations of what the game was.

In the end, air vehicles are at this point considerably and very noticably weaker than they all used to be. If there was ever a time to complain and demand a nerf, now isn't it.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 07 2013 12:20 GMT
#9746
There are times when servers are massively unbalanced, but guess what you simply leave the server and go play on another one.


Of course! It takes me at least 30min to find a server that is fun to play on. And the best part is you don't even get XP if you leave the game. Its the games fault, not the players when the game isn't fun! I'm also bad at SC2, but there I don't need 30min to have fun. I go into matchmaking and I get a opponent that is near my level of play. The main-problem with BF3 isn't that there are Nerds who play this Game since Release and abuse every aspect of it, the main-failiure is the matchmaking. Is there any other online-game that has no matchmaking at all? You just bought the game and play against people with 500+ hrs of experience? Are they serious?
At least there has to be a option is this terrible-serverbrowser that lets me search for Servers that kick all Maxlevel players.
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
February 07 2013 12:39 GMT
#9747
But then how would I be able to pubstomp newbies?
Happiest man on earth
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
February 07 2013 14:25 GMT
#9748
If it takes you 30 mins to find a server with a map you like at the size you like, I don't know what it is you like then. Has to be something even more specific than I do, which is pretty fucking narrowed down.

Mostly it sounds like you feel like you're not that good yet, but you don't want to play against people who are better than you. How do you intend to learn and get better then? Most people were pretty shit when they started. It's not like every server is populated exclusively by people with 700+ hours into the game.

If it's really that bad, you go onto forums and search for communities that feel similarly and find servers that are well moderated in that regard. Alternatively get your own server for all the people who are supposedly in your situation.

The answers are many, but by your original post it seems like you've simply chosen to forego them all and just quit and complain about the game. Fine by me, but can you at the very least come up with a detailed proposal for how to actually solve the problem? There's definitely a lot of huge issues with the game, I complain on TS pretty much every time I play but the matchmaking is certainly not a priority at all.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 07 2013 16:44 GMT
#9749
I just log on and play for a bit when I have some time. I do my own thing, whilst still trying to capture points, but for me it's a very casual gaming experience.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
February 07 2013 17:27 GMT
#9750
I haven't played BF3 since the release of Aftermath, which I thought had some cool maps. I am eagerly waiting for End Game to check out Air Superiority. I dunno how people can play this game solo. I tried doing it and it drove me nuts how dumb people play this game: Stacking the same perks, not repairing friendly vehicles, not reviving when it's clear, not dropping supplies, mobile AA staying at spawn trying to snipe down air (failing horribly too), etc.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
February 07 2013 18:03 GMT
#9751
Lately, all I've been playing is Conquest Domination to farm pistol kills. Let's just say that the M1911 Supp. is so bad that DICE had to give their employees a TAC light to compensate for this weapon and the terrible performance.

Lone wolf/solo ain't bad playing if you have a certain goal in mind. Actually, I think it's better to improve yourself by playing solo so that you learn correct positioning and engagements, which is far more important than aim in pubs.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
February 07 2013 18:56 GMT
#9752
The advantage SC2 has over BF3 when it comes to matchmaking is that in SC2 you are playing 1v1. Ofc its much easier to make a decent matchmaking system for a 1v1 game. Also in BF3 teamwork plays a huge role. If you have one squad with a decent tank driver and 3 dedicated repair monkeys for example, that squad alone can dominate the match because there is no way a single person can effectively counter a tanksquad that is working together.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
Rixxe
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom136 Posts
February 08 2013 09:12 GMT
#9753
Think some people are just not looking hard enough for a decent server. If you find one, save it as a favorite and then it takes you less than 1 minute to start having fun.
I've found 2 SDM servers on Metro, in which most of the players that join it (clans and so forth) are actually good. Not necessarily high rank, but good players. It's fun.

Infact i would say, if you want to play games where people are working with as a team, you are better off playing SQM purely because you need your squad or it's impossible to win the game.
*bleep* you up in a gangsta style!
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 09:57:11
February 08 2013 09:56 GMT
#9754
On February 07 2013 21:20 Slackzftw wrote: The main-problem with BF3 isn't that there are Nerds who play this Game since Release and abuse every aspect of it, the main-failiure is the matchmaking. Is there any other online-game that has no matchmaking at all? You just bought the game and play against people with 500+ hrs of experience? Are they serious?


Yes, there is. It's every team game with matchmaking ever. Previous BFs (although I've only played BF2 but I doubt it's changed much), dota2, shit, even CS - it's just that there aren't any ranks so you don't know when you're being raped by a guy who's played it for 10 years.

If you can't find a game for half an hour, then you simply don't know what you're looking for. I don't think I've ever been in a non-clan/inv game where there hasn't been at least 1 colonel and some levels 1-10. This doesn't mean that the colonel is the superior player.

P.S. when I played I had a dozen good servers on my favourites - there are plenty of good servers in TDM, rush and CQ.
BF3Cayin
Profile Joined May 2012
27 Posts
February 19 2013 04:44 GMT
#9755
Hehe released a pretty quirky weapon breakdown on the DAO-12

For everything BF3 related come join us @ http://www.youtube.com/user/Cayinator
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
February 26 2013 01:48 GMT
#9756
Not a big surprise, but Battlefield 4 has been confirmed for next generation consoles.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/battlefield-4-confirmed-for-next-gen-release/
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
February 28 2013 16:28 GMT
#9757
On February 26 2013 10:48 zoLo wrote:
Not a big surprise, but Battlefield 4 has been confirmed for next generation consoles.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/battlefield-4-confirmed-for-next-gen-release/


Yes no surprise there. What surprises me though is that there is still no release date for Endgame DLC and we've heard nothing about the upcoming patch so far (if there is one).
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 16:58:26
February 28 2013 16:49 GMT
#9758
On March 01 2013 01:28 altered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:48 zoLo wrote:
Not a big surprise, but Battlefield 4 has been confirmed for next generation consoles.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/battlefield-4-confirmed-for-next-gen-release/


Yes no surprise there. What surprises me though is that there is still no release date for Endgame DLC and we've heard nothing about the upcoming patch so far (if there is one).

Release date is March, no further info yet but I believe if they say March that will mean with the early access for others to make it all fit in we will be seeing it hit for premium PC users before the 15th, possibly for PS3 by the 7/8th.
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 17:15:08
February 28 2013 17:10 GMT
#9759
On March 01 2013 01:49 TSBspartacus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 01:28 altered wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:48 zoLo wrote:
Not a big surprise, but Battlefield 4 has been confirmed for next generation consoles.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/25/battlefield-4-confirmed-for-next-gen-release/


Yes no surprise there. What surprises me though is that there is still no release date for Endgame DLC and we've heard nothing about the upcoming patch so far (if there is one).

Release date is March, no further info yet but I believe if they say March that will mean with the early access for others to make it all fit in we will be seeing it hit for premium PC users before the 15th, possibly for PS3 by the 7/8th.


Theoretically it should be out next tuesday on PS3 since they always release on tuesdays. If they dont realease it then it wont be out in march for non premiums or it wont be released on a tuesday wich wouldnt fit into the release scheme of EA.

EDIT: Oh, just saw they released a premium exclusive Endgame trailer
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
February 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#9760
DICE said they are going to show off BF4 in the upcoming weeks or months. There were Tweets from GameStop managers who got a sneak peek at the game already. I will not be surprised if it was shown at Microsoft's conference when they show off the new Xbox, which is rumored to be held in April.
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