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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
December 23 2011 01:38 GMT
#9821
On December 23 2011 10:28 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:16 hunts wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before. I just started a new character, and want to play it as a pure mage, thinking of going destruction/conjuration/enchanting. Switching between spells for dual wielding seems really clunky, is there a way to unequip the right hand spell and replace it with another without having to equip and unequip a 1 handed weapon? Also is fire lightning or ice better? Or is one not really better than the other? So far it's really fun, my other character that I finished the main quest line on was a 2handed warrior type. Seems like playing with pure magic is harder so far though, but I'm assuming it gets easier later on? I'm around lvl 10 right now.
you want to dualcast all destruction and restoration spells

put all your main spells in the favorites menu and switch around as needed

except for a few specific situations, if you're casting two entirely different destruction spells, you're doing it wrong

fire = raw damage but harder to aim
ice = it's like concussive shells
lightning = hitscan but less damage for mana cost

unless previous elder scrolls, there is also no downside to wearing armor as a mage in skyrim, so you should put some perks in one of the armor trees or you will start to have a lot of trouble once you reach late lvl 20s


Oh lol uesp said (about a week after release) that armor reduces the effectiveness of spells, so I went with alteration as armor. Even with the mage armor perk, ebonyflesh only gives 300 armor, and since each piece of actual armor worn gives 25 hidden armor rating, that's the same as 200 armor from light/heavy armor. 36% damage reduction. I'm currently lvl 74, in mage robes, and I'm not having problems. I also fight in melee combat or use bows as necessary, all without armor. Master difficulty.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 23 2011 01:51 GMT
#9822
On December 23 2011 10:37 Skilledblob wrote:
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On December 23 2011 10:28 Zanno wrote:

unless previous elder scrolls, there is also no downside to wearing armor as a mage in skyrim, so you should put some perks in one of the armor trees or you will start to have a lot of trouble once you reach late lvl 20s


this is wrong. wearing armor makes your spells more expensive


You are mistaken. Assuming it's unenchanted, armor has no affect on spell cost.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 02:00:17
December 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#9823
On December 23 2011 10:38 Mindcrime wrote:
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On December 23 2011 02:44 StatX wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:00 kedarking wrote:
On December 22 2011 11:51 Peanut Butter wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible to remove an enchantment from an item? I have a glass bow which I enchanted with Soul Trap before improving it with smithing and I have no intention of teching to "Improve Magical and Enchanted Items." Or better yet, does anyone know if there is a better bow then the Glass Bow? I have 24k gold and nothing to spend it on =(


I believe Ebony>glass, but I haven't seen a single piece of Ebony in stores yet, I found an ebony bow (40 dmg) somewhere.


The light armor side of the smithing perk is better for bows than the heavy side of the smithing perks.


How do you figure? Daedric and Ebony are two best materials for weapons and bows are no exception.

You can get Elven and Glass much faster than Daedric and Ebony. You also don't have to spend perks on Dwemer and Orcish. Daedric and Ebony are long-term investment.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 23 2011 02:21 GMT
#9824
On December 23 2011 10:59 Jindo wrote:
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On December 23 2011 10:38 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 23 2011 02:44 StatX wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:00 kedarking wrote:
On December 22 2011 11:51 Peanut Butter wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible to remove an enchantment from an item? I have a glass bow which I enchanted with Soul Trap before improving it with smithing and I have no intention of teching to "Improve Magical and Enchanted Items." Or better yet, does anyone know if there is a better bow then the Glass Bow? I have 24k gold and nothing to spend it on =(


I believe Ebony>glass, but I haven't seen a single piece of Ebony in stores yet, I found an ebony bow (40 dmg) somewhere.


The light armor side of the smithing perk is better for bows than the heavy side of the smithing perks.


How do you figure? Daedric and Ebony are two best materials for weapons and bows are no exception.

You can get Elven and Glass much faster than Daedric and Ebony. You also don't have to spend perks on Dwemer and Orcish. Daedric and Ebony are long-term investment.


Given how quickly you can level smithing, nothing comes "much" faster than ebony.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#9825
On December 23 2011 11:21 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:59 Jindo wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:38 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 23 2011 02:44 StatX wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:00 kedarking wrote:
On December 22 2011 11:51 Peanut Butter wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible to remove an enchantment from an item? I have a glass bow which I enchanted with Soul Trap before improving it with smithing and I have no intention of teching to "Improve Magical and Enchanted Items." Or better yet, does anyone know if there is a better bow then the Glass Bow? I have 24k gold and nothing to spend it on =(


I believe Ebony>glass, but I haven't seen a single piece of Ebony in stores yet, I found an ebony bow (40 dmg) somewhere.


The light armor side of the smithing perk is better for bows than the heavy side of the smithing perks.


How do you figure? Daedric and Ebony are two best materials for weapons and bows are no exception.

You can get Elven and Glass much faster than Daedric and Ebony. You also don't have to spend perks on Dwemer and Orcish. Daedric and Ebony are long-term investment.


Given how quickly you can level smithing, nothing comes "much" faster than ebony.


Making a million billion trillion iron daggers is my fondest memory in all of Skyrim.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
December 23 2011 03:17 GMT
#9826
Hi guys I'm playing a wood elf character maining in archery. I read the other build thread but I want to know which skills and attributes should I be focusing on. And what armor I should wear etc. thanks for the help guys
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
December 23 2011 04:14 GMT
#9827
On December 23 2011 12:17 Dante08 wrote:
Hi guys I'm playing a wood elf character maining in archery. I read the other build thread but I want to know which skills and attributes should I be focusing on. And what armor I should wear etc. thanks for the help guys


Light armor, health (50 pts in stamina for when you get the bow zoom perk). Lighter weight bows draw faster, so they are better for open confrontations. Heavier bows tend to have higher damage, so they are best for sneak attacks.

Skills:

Archery
Light Armor - Both light and heavy armors can reach the armor cap of 567, but light armor will allow you to move quickly even at low levels.
One-Handed, for when enemies close the distance
Block, if you wish to increase your close-quarters capabilities
Sneak if you want to play a sneaky character
Restoration is handy for healing.
Illusion to improve sneaking capabilities. If you choose to add this, put 50 points into magicka as well.

In-depth perk breakdown:
+ Show Spoiler +

IGN Perk Builder

This above build is quite open-ended, only requiring you to be lvl 46 to complete. I omitted the archery steady hand perk because it isn't necessary, it's more about preference. You can get away fine with just 5/5 armsman under one-handed, since that won't be your main method of dealing damage. Moving in light armor creates little to no noise, so I omitted most of the sneak perks as well. The points in restoration will allow you to cast a 150 hp/stamina healing spell at half cost, which should be sufficient in emergencies. The points put into illusion allow you to cast muffle (novice spell) and invisibility (expert spell) at a more reasonable magicka cost. As a long range stealth character, invisibility isn't really necessary so hold off on that until you're done with getting all the necessary perks. Once you get these perks though, feel free to get whatever you feel like. Keep in mind that putting perks into alchemy/enchanting/smithing can ruin the game experience by making things too easy, even on the highest difficulty.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
December 23 2011 08:30 GMT
#9828
On December 23 2011 12:17 Dante08 wrote:
Hi guys I'm playing a wood elf character maining in archery. I read the other build thread but I want to know which skills and attributes should I be focusing on. And what armor I should wear etc. thanks for the help guys


I'm a wood elf as well. I should've probably focussed on archery as elf speciality but i went onehand/block .

An useful tip for those who fight close combat and/or use the fps camera, you can change the FOV in the console. Just open console and type: fov number (i find 110 to be great fov for the first person camera).

I have a question, why does my trap a soul spell not work? I tried it on orcs and thalmor agents so far and each time it said i don't have a gem big enough. WTF? I had greater sould gems and grand sould gem as well....
It pisses me off to always have to spend money on soul gems, they cost a lot.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 23 2011 08:39 GMT
#9829
On December 23 2011 10:51 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:28 Zanno wrote:

unless previous elder scrolls, there is also no downside to wearing armor as a mage in skyrim, so you should put some perks in one of the armor trees or you will start to have a lot of trouble once you reach late lvl 20s


this is wrong. wearing armor makes your spells more expensive


You are mistaken. Assuming it's unenchanted, armor has no affect on spell cost.

Well, generally Robes are 10x better than Armor as far as default enchantments goes for a mage. Also, certain perks, like Mage Armor, only works when your overall armor rating is 0, but using Ebonyflesh with Mage Armor lvl 3 will actually give you a quite decent armor ratio even though you're not wearing any, plus you'll have more magic-based enchantments on your Robes.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:40:22
December 23 2011 08:39 GMT
#9830
You can't trap humanoid souls in normal soul gems, only in black soul gems.

if you level enchanting then any robe becomes infinitely inferior to any light/heavy armor you can enchant.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
December 23 2011 08:39 GMT
#9831
Thanks demonhunter, is it better to use dual daggers or a sword and shield?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 23 2011 09:42 GMT
#9832
On December 23 2011 17:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:51 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:28 Zanno wrote:

unless previous elder scrolls, there is also no downside to wearing armor as a mage in skyrim, so you should put some perks in one of the armor trees or you will start to have a lot of trouble once you reach late lvl 20s


this is wrong. wearing armor makes your spells more expensive


You are mistaken. Assuming it's unenchanted, armor has no affect on spell cost.

Well, generally Robes are 10x better than Armor as far as default enchantments goes for a mage. Also, certain perks, like Mage Armor, only works when your overall armor rating is 0, but using Ebonyflesh with Mage Armor lvl 3 will actually give you a quite decent armor ratio even though you're not wearing any, plus you'll have more magic-based enchantments on your Robes.


You can put the same enchantments on armor that you can put on robes.

As for how well alteration's protection spells work.... well... they scale like shit compared to actual armor. You can use a fully perked out ebonyflesh and its measly 36% damage reduction which has to be recast periodically, or you can easily hit the AR cap with light armor and have 80% DR all the time.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
December 23 2011 09:51 GMT
#9833
If you beat the main story does it stop dragons from spawning?
Rise Up!
Terr
Profile Joined October 2010
237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 10:45:02
December 23 2011 10:44 GMT
#9834
On December 23 2011 18:51 undyinglight wrote:
If you beat the main story does it stop dragons from spawning?

No, don't worry about it. Aside from a few references nothing in the world really changes. Your free-roaming experience will be largely the same after you complete it.
"How peaceful it must be for you, to have a mind unburdened by thought." - Protoss Zealot
eodynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany44 Posts
December 23 2011 11:31 GMT
#9835
On December 23 2011 17:30 Pika Chu wrote:

I have a question, why does my trap a soul spell not work? I tried it on orcs and thalmor agents so far and each time it said i don't have a gem big enough. WTF? I had greater sould gems and grand sould gem as well....
It pisses me off to always have to spend money on soul gems, they cost a lot.


You need black soul gems for the souls of humans. You can only capture animal souls in normal soul gems.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 23 2011 11:35 GMT
#9836
On December 23 2011 18:42 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 17:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:51 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:28 Zanno wrote:

unless previous elder scrolls, there is also no downside to wearing armor as a mage in skyrim, so you should put some perks in one of the armor trees or you will start to have a lot of trouble once you reach late lvl 20s


this is wrong. wearing armor makes your spells more expensive


You are mistaken. Assuming it's unenchanted, armor has no affect on spell cost.

Well, generally Robes are 10x better than Armor as far as default enchantments goes for a mage. Also, certain perks, like Mage Armor, only works when your overall armor rating is 0, but using Ebonyflesh with Mage Armor lvl 3 will actually give you a quite decent armor ratio even though you're not wearing any, plus you'll have more magic-based enchantments on your Robes.


You can put the same enchantments on armor that you can put on robes.

As for how well alteration's protection spells work.... well... they scale like shit compared to actual armor. You can use a fully perked out ebonyflesh and its measly 36% damage reduction which has to be recast periodically, or you can easily hit the AR cap with light armor and have 80% DR all the time.

Yeah, know. Just saying that even though using armor is better even for a mage, it's still perfectly viable to not use it if you want to feel like you're playing a real mage. Guess it depends on how RP you are
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 11:56:22
December 23 2011 11:43 GMT
#9837
why dont we post our characters :p
i have quite a few but im pretty proud of this one
+ Show Spoiler [Jaina Proudmoore] +
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yep, and i also have eddard stark, illidan stormrage, grom hellscream and tyrande whisperwood
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 23 2011 14:36 GMT
#9838
On December 23 2011 10:22 Twisted wrote:
Next character I'm gonna make is this:


LOL WOW okay you just set my holiday plans sir, time to badass it up!
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 23 2011 15:49 GMT
#9839
On December 23 2011 20:43 OutlaW- wrote:
why dont we post our characters :p
i have quite a few but im pretty proud of this one
+ Show Spoiler [Jaina Proudmoore] +
[image loading]
[image loading]
yep, and i also have eddard stark, illidan stormrage, grom hellscream and tyrande whisperwood

It's "Whisperwind*" >.<
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 23 2011 15:59 GMT
#9840
On December 23 2011 23:36 OpticalShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:22 Twisted wrote:
Next character I'm gonna make is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBiNx749Zw

LOL WOW okay you just set my holiday plans sir, time to badass it up!


haha I know right, that video is one of the funniest things I have seen all year

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