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Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 11 2011 22:03 GMT
#9341
Try playing a sneak archer with no one handed skill or perks on master, without abusing crafting.

Two-shot by every mage and bandit, even bears and sabre cats. One-shot by some archers too. Although, with the sanguine rose, who needs conjuration?
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
December 11 2011 22:29 GMT
#9342
After playing alot of the last day and a half I finally had enough $$ saved up to by a horse!!
... Sadly I went off a clift with him and hes now dead and I'm broke..
Stole a horse and got put in prison and I'm too pissed off to play now.. GG no re.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 11 2011 22:35 GMT
#9343


I can't stop watching.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:44:26
December 11 2011 22:43 GMT
#9344
On December 12 2011 06:32 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:52 IntoTheWow wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:51 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:47 Offhand wrote:
Have been speculating on what the most broken combination of perks would be. Conjuration/1h/bow/heavy armor/sneak with crafting as affordable would probably do it. Play a rogue that can summon a pair of his own tanks and have infinitely broken gear.


Enchant/Alchemy/Heavy Armour/Twohander

done


Enchant / Smithing / Archery / Alchemy / Conjuration

Don't even need enchanting actually. Just craft broken poisons (over 3k damage), craft a godly bow with maxed archery set.

Conjure 2 dremoras to tank for you and hit everything from a distance. You don't need the summons in 99999% of the battles as you 1 hit kill everything, even without sneaking.


I'm fairly certain you could play the entire game without getting a single perk as well as not using smithing, enchanting and alchemy and the game would still be pretty easy.

The combat system doesn't allow for too high difficulty. Otherwise, people would stop playing after getting 1 shotted by every other enemy. It would be pretty cool to necessitate sneaking and picking your battles, but I don't think that fits well with most types of characters and the feel they were going for with Skyrim. It would be fun as an archer/assassin though.


thats just not true. without perks / crafting you dont stand a chance at master. unless you just endlessly abuse pots and even then lotsa stuff will just 1hit you while you need like 20 swings to kill it.

On December 12 2011 07:29 NuKedUFirst wrote:
After playing alot of the last day and a half I finally had enough $$ saved up to by a horse!!
... Sadly I went off a clift with him and hes now dead and I'm broke..
Stole a horse and got put in prison and I'm too pissed off to play now.. GG no re.


there is a quest in riften where you can get a "free" horse. go do that ~~
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:52:11
December 11 2011 22:50 GMT
#9345
On December 12 2011 07:43 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 06:32 Kurr wrote:
On December 12 2011 05:52 IntoTheWow wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:51 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:47 Offhand wrote:
Have been speculating on what the most broken combination of perks would be. Conjuration/1h/bow/heavy armor/sneak with crafting as affordable would probably do it. Play a rogue that can summon a pair of his own tanks and have infinitely broken gear.


Enchant/Alchemy/Heavy Armour/Twohander

done


Enchant / Smithing / Archery / Alchemy / Conjuration

Don't even need enchanting actually. Just craft broken poisons (over 3k damage), craft a godly bow with maxed archery set.

Conjure 2 dremoras to tank for you and hit everything from a distance. You don't need the summons in 99999% of the battles as you 1 hit kill everything, even without sneaking.


I'm fairly certain you could play the entire game without getting a single perk as well as not using smithing, enchanting and alchemy and the game would still be pretty easy.

The combat system doesn't allow for too high difficulty. Otherwise, people would stop playing after getting 1 shotted by every other enemy. It would be pretty cool to necessitate sneaking and picking your battles, but I don't think that fits well with most types of characters and the feel they were going for with Skyrim. It would be fun as an archer/assassin though.


thats just not true. without perks / crafting you dont stand a chance at master. unless you just endlessly abuse pots and even then lotsa stuff will just 1hit you while you need like 20 swings to kill it.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:29 NuKedUFirst wrote:
After playing alot of the last day and a half I finally had enough $$ saved up to by a horse!!
... Sadly I went off a clift with him and hes now dead and I'm broke..
Stole a horse and got put in prison and I'm too pissed off to play now.. GG no re.


there is a quest in riften where you can get a "free" horse. go do that ~~


Ah, I didn't really mess with the difficulty itself without perks. I tried Master with my 2h warrior and it was more or less the same just enemies took more hits so I put it back on default. At this point only mages can kill me and I could just enchant my gear to change that if I wanted to, but it wouldn't be any fun. When I max heavy armor I'll be switching to light armor so that should up the difficulty a bit

Also, how can you run out of money? I have the house in Whiterrun and in Solitude will all upgrades and I still have 30k. I barely even sell anything, I have a stash filled with dragon bones/scales, gems, staves, soul gems, etc. The game seems to give me so much gold for barely any work.
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Banishment
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 23:07:37
December 11 2011 23:07 GMT
#9346
Well that really depends on how you play the game. With my first character i played quite slow, did a lot of quests and ended up with 70 k and a house in Whiterun.

With my second Character i got to the same level twice as fast, maxed enchanting and alchemy and bought the house in solitude. And now im kinda broke since ive got 4 k potions which i can use to enhance alchemy even further but lets face it: Selling an item which gives you 2 k is kinda useless when most traders have <1000 anyway .

What makes me cry is the fact that my mage is now kinda indestructible because i can cast conjuration and destruction for free, have huge amounts of life potions and iam a breton with an active atronach stone . As a result i can play hide and seek with dragon priests and started killing them with those burning familiars only. But before that i highly depended on my follower because i always ran out of mana during some fights..... Imho they shouldve toned down those crafting professions a little bit and shouldve upped the regular manaregeneration quite a bit. There is just nothing between being weak and completely overpowered .
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
December 11 2011 23:42 GMT
#9347
You don't need to use "exploits" to break the game, the normal options are more than enough. I stand at 800 armor rating with 80% resistance to everything and 550 hit points by just making the normal daedric set and enchanting it accordingly, as well as my amulet and ring. Using 2h daedric battleaxe and elemental fury shout I can kill a landed ancient dragon before my health goes below 450. All that on adept difficulty, cba to turn it up to master, it just means I have to grind alchemy more.
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
December 11 2011 23:54 GMT
#9348
Hey, so I did the quest in Markarth where you have to find out who murdered the civilian when you first go there (The Forsworn Conspiracy I believe it's call) and then they sent me to jail without the option of paying off my bounty. I then did the No One Escapes the Cidhna Mine quest. Now the guards still attack me on site, and on the rare occasion that they yell at me before attack me I have the option to go to jail, attack them, or pay my bounty. Every time I ask to pay my bounty they say I've done too much and every time I tell them I'll go to jail, they say that no one escapes the mine and then the whole speech process is restarted, at which point I'm forced to run like a little girl because I can't take on 10 to 15 guards at once >.< Anyone know how to fix this? D:
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
teer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States189 Posts
December 11 2011 23:55 GMT
#9349
hahahahahahahah. i love it
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
December 12 2011 00:03 GMT
#9350
I'm pretty near start of the game, I heard that after escaping the dragon on your way to riverwood you are supposed to go to some shrine to choose what stats you want to level of faster. I do not remember at all doing this, is there a way I can back track to find this shrine? I feel like I'm really gonna miss out having missed it lol
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#9351
On December 12 2011 07:35 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOxVjbGvUpI&feature=channel_video_title

I can't stop watching.

Hahahahaha this is so epic
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
December 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#9352
On December 12 2011 09:03 Ryder. wrote:
I'm pretty near start of the game, I heard that after escaping the dragon on your way to riverwood you are supposed to go to some shrine to choose what stats you want to level of faster. I do not remember at all doing this, is there a way I can back track to find this shrine? I feel like I'm really gonna miss out having missed it lol


Just go to the east from the Riverwood, by the river, along the road.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 12 2011 00:18 GMT
#9353
Damn I just did the Reyda quest and it made me feel so sad. Oddly enough the music changed to a sad dirge too
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 12 2011 00:35 GMT
#9354
too easy?

i dont know how you play this game, but i always felt pretty threatened when i saw a 2H bandit chief, some kind of mage, higher level dragons, 2 handed dragaurs, frost trolls until a certain level, bears until a certain level, sabre cats until a certain level.


Well unless ofc you have the best armor in the game plus enchants, but thats how this game is. If you want to be completely godlike, you are allowed to do so. You dont see me complaining that BG2 is too easy when i make a custom party entirely with multi and dual class mages oO
Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 00:51:22
December 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#9355
On December 12 2011 07:35 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOxVjbGvUpI&feature=channel_video_title

I can't stop watching.


Great too:
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
December 12 2011 01:03 GMT
#9356
On December 12 2011 09:35 LaNague wrote:
too easy?

i dont know how you play this game, but i always felt pretty threatened when i saw a 2H bandit chief, some kind of mage, higher level dragons, 2 handed dragaurs, frost trolls until a certain level, bears until a certain level, sabre cats until a certain level.


Well unless ofc you have the best armor in the game plus enchants, but thats how this game is. If you want to be completely godlike, you are allowed to do so. You dont see me complaining that BG2 is too easy when i make a custom party entirely with multi and dual class mages oO


But you can only break BG if you know the ins and outs of the game, when to switch class, etc.

I broke Skyrim by jumping onto a rock against a giant at lvl 5.

You break with normaly leveling like any of these 5 trees: Conjuration, Alchemy, Smithing, Archery, Block.

And to some degree with the other trees.

Dunno, it lacks depth, I'm waiting for mods to change that. Localized damage should be possible since if im not mistaken this runs on the same engine as Fallout 3,

Needs balancing (weapons, apparel with cost -% on magic schools, increases shouldn't be additive or should have a cap)
Needs reworking how skills lvl up (smithing lol).
Some really stupid bug fixes (soul trap on corpses lol, how mountains works and how you can climb them)
Enemy AI is rightdown terrible with big monsters (or not so big monsters like dragaurs)
It's nearly impossible to be "bad" and still have quests, so the game kind of forces you to be a good boy. Also you should be able to at least remove quests, like those "fetch me" quests are HORRIBLE.

This game is a solid ground for modding and getting a better experience, but right now I find myself taking the worst trees to make it somehow challeging.
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Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 12 2011 01:15 GMT
#9357
On December 12 2011 10:03 IntoTheWow wrote:
Archery


nope
Aspiring to be MKP's butler
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
December 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#9358
armor caps at 672 cant have 800 armor
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 01:31:51
December 12 2011 01:29 GMT
#9359
On December 12 2011 10:15 Tomazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:03 IntoTheWow wrote:
Archery


nope


How isn't it broken? I have a lvl 50 archer and from the moment you can get a bow (inside the first cave to take the bear) 90% of my battles turned into "Sneak someone, shoot an arrow (in the knee, because there's no localized damage), sneak again, rinse and repeat.

If they fight gets ugly get to the high ground and kill anakin destroy all the things.

If there's no high ground (like boss fights in some dungeons), just run around and keep fighting whenever they slow down to hit you. Alternatively you can use shouts or conjuration if you have them to finish them off

Sometimes bosses choose to get stuck or blocked by some ledge so you can put an ice-cream cone in their heads while you shoow more arrows..

If you have any perks in archery it gets even easier. If you have any poison, its even easier. If you have enchanted bows its easier too.

I don't even have one handed or two handed on my archer cause I never needed it.


The only thing that made archery more interesting for me was.... tah dah, mods. Adding curve trayectory to arrow shooting (wow, what a brilliant idea! I wonder by bethesda didn't think of that!) and arrow crafting (you have to take time to craft arrows or loot them, instead of having an infinite supply of high lvl arrows).
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
December 12 2011 01:37 GMT
#9360
On December 12 2011 10:29 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:15 Tomazi wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:03 IntoTheWow wrote:
Archery


nope


...in the knee, because there's no localized damage....

....kill anakin....

You were the chosen one, Anakin! You were supposed to restore balance to the game, not take an arrow to the knee!
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