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Ian Ian Ian
915 Posts
On December 11 2011 12:49 Fallians wrote: Has anyone here ever played either of the icewind dale's im thinking of getting them and was wondering if they were as good as baldurs gate ? Wrong thread but I played IWD2 and its great, alot like baldurs gate but low level | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 11 2011 12:49 Fallians wrote: Has anyone here ever played either of the icewind dale's im thinking of getting them and was wondering if they were as good as baldurs gate ? Wrong thread but now that you ask, if you enjoy the BG2 combat both Icewind Dale games are fun. Actually Icewind dale games have better spell animations then BG games. Both IWD games are more about killing evil creatures and less about free roaming the maps looking for quests. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
The quest lines are very short and I just don't find myself looking forward to leveling up. My choices are putting +1 into health, stamina,magika or getting x perk that increases your damage with y. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
Also, had an awesome moment in a cave. I got killed by a fire mage and his buddies, respawned and decided to set off the traps that had damaged me before moving on (there were like 50 traps in that cave). I take out my bow and arrow, shoot a floor trap and at the same time, 2 mages come running towards me because of the noise. BOOM, spike door to the face and instant kill on both of them! Best moment in Skyrim so far for me, just perfect. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 11 2011 03:08 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: if we use a 1-10 model skyrim is a 9.5 at worst. i just does way way too many things right. and a game that easily sucks you in 100+ hours is simply great. also i disagree about dragon ages combat (1 was ok but left much to wish for, 2 was a joke) and comparison to mass effect in dialogue is just unfair since ME is MUCH MUCH smaller(not sure tho why you see it as more "mature"?). BG2 is the best overall rpg ever made yeah (in story/writing PS:T atleast comes close ..just combat is much more limited). sadly with todays constant dumbing down of games and the HUGE work it would need to do another game of that quality today i dont think we will see anything even close to it anytime soon,maybe ever. i mean a game of that complexity and difficulty alone would scare the general player today off. add that peole wont accept 2d and demand voice acting (soo much text in those old games...) and you have a hard to do very costly game that will be the holy grail for some but still would be a huge loss of money. its sad but thats the way it is. I sort of... never expected BG like awesomness in Skyrim. It's a completely different type of game. Skyrim is awesome in its own right. In contrast, every time Bioware releases an RPG (DA, ME, etc) I feel so utterly dissapointed and my heart is broken one more time  . I just wish they made something as incredible as BG2 again. Best game ever imo. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 11 2011 03:08 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: if we use a 1-10 model skyrim is a 9.5 at worst. i just does way way too many things right. and a game that easily sucks you in 100+ hours is simply great. also i disagree about dragon ages combat (1 was ok but left much to wish for, 2 was a joke) and comparison to mass effect in dialogue is just unfair since ME is MUCH MUCH smaller(not sure tho why you see it as more "mature"?). BG2 is the best overall rpg ever made yeah (in story/writing PS:T atleast comes close ..just combat is much more limited). sadly with todays constant dumbing down of games and the HUGE work it would need to do another game of that quality today i dont think we will see anything even close to it anytime soon,maybe ever. i mean a game of that complexity and difficulty alone would scare the general player today off. add that peole wont accept 2d and demand voice acting (soo much text in those old games...) and you have a hard to do very costly game that will be the holy grail for some but still would be a huge loss of money. its sad but thats the way it is. If we use the scale of 1-10, then BG2 + ToB would be over 9000  It's a legendary game for many reasons. I've never played Planescape: Torment so I cannot commend on the game but from I heard it would be over 9000 too.The wish for the game like we used to have in 90s and at the beginning the 2000s is not going to come true anymore. The industry has already evolved pass that point, for better of worse. Games this day become an entertainment that should be easily accessed by people, without lot of complications or systems that a new player needs to learn. For oldschoolers, they would look being dumped down. I'm not sure we can say the same for a newer generation, though. After becoming an adult, I kinda understand why new gamers think like that since I no longer have that much time to play games and although I still love to learn how to play a complicate game, time does not really favor me. Personally, I don't think it is that bad for games to be easily accessed by people, although sometimes I really want to play a hardcore rpg game again. Skyrim is as close as it could possibly right now, with that level of immersion. | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
On December 11 2011 07:46 Serpico wrote: So are the crashed when installing very high res texture mods because of a lack of memory and the 2gig limit? I get missing/purple textures here and there which I attribute to conflicts with some mods but the CTDs on fast travel are horrendous. Yes. You need to use the 4GB Skyrim to be able to use the high res textures | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
I haven't taken the crafting shenanigans to the max yet on either of my characters. Regular old 100 skill smithing and enchanting gives you amazing armor with double enchants. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:34 Bleak wrote: I'm having a weird bug. The Process TESV.exe*32 does not shut down after exiting the game. Because of this even after leaving the game or opening a different game, my Steam profile shows me I'm playing Skyrim, and it also eats up my RAM capacity. Anyone else having this issue? Don't have that problem but I figure google can help you. Otherwise, always remember to close it when you exit the game. It's a pain but it's not the end of the world I suppose. Been progressing the Dark Brotherhood quests. I just killed everyone in plain sight then killed all the guards that came after me pretty much. I don't get a bounty since no one is alive to know it was me ahah. That one girl that asked me to kill her ex-lover and a friend for a stupid reason... I killed the bandit for the quest, then once I finished it I smashed her head in two. That's what you get when you try to have everyone you dislike murdered. Now I have to kill Victoria. Too bad, I thought she was a marriage option when I saw her in Solitude. Oh, and I remember people were having a hard time with Knevel? He was very easy IMO... didn't even use a single potion, just straight up butchered him. Overall, I didn't really want to start murdering NPCs so quickly but oh well. I'd rather kill everyone in DB itself to be honest but I want to finish the quest line. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:47 Offhand wrote: Have been speculating on what the most broken combination of perks would be. Conjuration/1h/bow/heavy armor/sneak with crafting as affordable would probably do it. Play a rogue that can summon a pair of his own tanks and have infinitely broken gear. Enchant/Alchemy/Heavy Armour/Twohander done | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:51 Skilledblob wrote: Enchant/Alchemy/Heavy Armour/Twohander done 2h does less than dual wield though, plus you miss out on a pair of enchants. Crafting on a generic bezerker is broken as hell though (as is crafting on everything and most "full" class style builds). I dunno what you'd even do with all your enchant slots with a 2h character. You can fit in a free school of magic (conjuration or destro) on your gear without losing any damage enchant. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:54 Offhand wrote: 2h does less than dual wield though, plus you miss out on a pair of enchants. Crafting on a generic bezerker is broken as hell though (as is crafting on everything and most "full" class style builds). I dunno what you'd even do with all your enchant slots with a 2h character. You can fit in a free school of magic (conjuration or destro) on your gear without losing any damage enchant. You can block and bash with a 2H weapon though. Either way, you're going to steamroll through everything. I don't even have enchants on my daedric stuff and I still easily clear anything (except a few mages because of my 0% resistance) --- although once you get next to them and stun lock them it's easy as well. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On December 11 2011 12:49 Fallians wrote: Has anyone here ever played either of the icewind dale's im thinking of getting them and was wondering if they were as good as baldurs gate ? they are more combat oriented and less focus on the roleplaying. they use improved D&D rules that make building the chars more interesting. Combat is also harder and more strategic. And it has a darker atmosphere and more awesome portraits. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On December 12 2011 04:47 LaNague wrote: they are more combat oriented and less focus on the roleplaying. they use improved D&D rules that make building the chars more interesting. Combat is also harder and more strategic. And it has a darker atmosphere and more awesome portraits. Creating a whole party can take hours until you're really happy with them. Icewind Dale 1 is superb, i never finished Icewind Dale 2 though. | ||
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Polis
Poland1292 Posts
On December 10 2011 11:29 mordk wrote: IMO the problem with combat isn't the combat itself, but the way the game is played. The 3rd/1st person perspective forces the kind of combat you see in Skyrim, and pretty much every RPG which uses this perspective is subject to the same combat flaws Skyrim has. . Played Risen or Gothic games? PB makes crpg with good action combat. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:51 Skilledblob wrote: Enchant/Alchemy/Heavy Armour/Twohander done Enchant / Smithing / Archery / Alchemy / Conjuration Don't even need enchanting actually. Just craft broken poisons (over 3k damage), craft a godly bow with maxed archery set. Conjure 2 dremoras to tank for you and hit everything from a distance. You don't need the summons in 99999% of the battles as you 1 hit kill everything, even without sneaking. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:52 IntoTheWow wrote: Enchant / Smithing / Archery / Alchemy / Conjuration Don't even need enchanting actually. Just craft broken poisons (over 3k damage), craft a godly bow with maxed archery set. Conjure 2 dremoras to tank for you and hit everything from a distance. You don't need the summons in 99999% of the battles as you 1 hit kill everything, even without sneaking. I'm fairly certain you could play the entire game without getting a single perk as well as not using smithing, enchanting and alchemy and the game would still be pretty easy. The combat system doesn't allow for too high difficulty. Otherwise, people would stop playing after getting 1 shotted by every other enemy. It would be pretty cool to necessitate sneaking and picking your battles, but I don't think that fits well with most types of characters and the feel they were going for with Skyrim. It would be fun as an archer/assassin though. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On December 12 2011 06:32 Kurr wrote: I'm fairly certain you could play the entire game without getting a single perk as well as not using smithing, enchanting and alchemy and the game would still be pretty easy. The combat system doesn't allow for too high difficulty. Otherwise, people would stop playing after getting 1 shotted by every other enemy. It would be pretty cool to necessitate sneaking and picking your battles, but I don't think that fits well with most types of characters and the feel they were going for with Skyrim. It would be fun as an archer/assassin though. Eh try playing a melee character on master without any perks ... i don't think that i am THAT bad. I used perks and no crafting but still died often enough to bosses until the point that i decreased difficulty for a while. Although if you buy potions, that might be true to some point... but if i think about it - potions where not my problem, rather 1-hit-dying to bosses. | ||
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