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Bengui
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada775 Posts
November 30 2011 14:54 GMT
#8461
On November 30 2011 23:45 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:36 Bengui wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:26 Doraemon wrote:
(i dual wield and the other weapon has the suck a soul if kill within 5 seconds, but it always comes up with the message "no soul gems large enough")


Just a little precision : you can't be running around casting soul trap on random enemies, because if you don't have a gem of the proper size for the enemy you just kill, its soul is going to in a gem one size larger, essentially "wasting" that gem. If you're not careful, you're going to end up with a lot of petty and lesser souls stored in common and greater gems.
You need to know exactly which enemies gives you which souls and how many empty souls of each size you have in your inventory, and use a third weapon when you find an enemy that you can safely soul trap.

It doesn't matter. For improving enchanting any soul gem will do. And if you want to enchant something that you will use buying a grand soul gem with a grand soul inside is much more simple.

Well yeah, I guess it doesn't matter as much as I made it sound... but enchanting with lesser gems will give you less money.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 30 2011 15:02 GMT
#8462
might be a bug, but i solved that problem with grand soul gems having filled in a petty soul simply by dropping them to the ground. the souls then disappeared O_o
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 30 2011 15:22 GMT
#8463
Oh, wow. The sound suddenly decided to start working again...
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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
November 30 2011 15:39 GMT
#8464
Anyone else having the strange problem where when you look at an npc he gets muted? To talk to people I have to continually look off to the side of them, which gets to be a really annoying minigame when you talk to more than one person.. I also had this problem with Space Marine, have no idea what causes it.
really?
Kingqway
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States155 Posts
November 30 2011 16:17 GMT
#8465
Just curious, for the guys on TL who play the game are you guys playing it on a console or the PC? Looking at the Beth forums made me worry that the PC version is just bug-ridden, lol, but I don't know. If it's anything like B.net forums, then that's the last place I would want to check in terms of making sure I clear up any bug fixes before I start playing.
ddong
BoomChild
Profile Joined September 2010
United States49 Posts
November 30 2011 16:18 GMT
#8466
On December 01 2011 00:39 Clearout wrote:
Anyone else having the strange problem where when you look at an npc he gets muted? To talk to people I have to continually look off to the side of them, which gets to be a really annoying minigame when you talk to more than one person.. I also had this problem with Space Marine, have no idea what causes it.



I'm not 100% sure where to check this, but if you have your speaker settings set up for someing like 5.1 or 6.1 surround sound, and you use headphones to play, the voices when you look directly at a NPC will attempt to play though the "center" speaker. I believe it's a bug where the game doesn't compensate if there isn't actually a center speaker active. If you want to use headphones I'd likely switch your default sound settings to headphone in the control panel in windows until someone has a better answer..
I like Zerg.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 30 2011 16:27 GMT
#8467
On December 01 2011 01:17 Kingqway wrote:
Just curious, for the guys on TL who play the game are you guys playing it on a console or the PC? Looking at the Beth forums made me worry that the PC version is just bug-ridden, lol, but I don't know. If it's anything like B.net forums, then that's the last place I would want to check in terms of making sure I clear up any bug fixes before I start playing.


You're better off on the PC as you can fix a lot of the issues with the command console (google around), where console gamers would be dead in the water with that.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 30 2011 16:30 GMT
#8468
On December 01 2011 01:17 Kingqway wrote:
Just curious, for the guys on TL who play the game are you guys playing it on a console or the PC? Looking at the Beth forums made me worry that the PC version is just bug-ridden, lol, but I don't know. If it's anything like B.net forums, then that's the last place I would want to check in terms of making sure I clear up any bug fixes before I start playing.


only had like 2-3 real quest bugs for me. only one of them major but it solved itself after doing a quest related to it. also on pc you have the console to fix things which helps with many possible problems.

stability wise i didnt have a single crash,tabbing is awesome, driver update solved some flickering issues..

if your pc can run skyrim then there is no reason to buy it for console.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
November 30 2011 16:47 GMT
#8469
Does that infernal demon dog push you guys around too? Geez, its nice having an invincible dog and everything, but so annoying.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
November 30 2011 16:47 GMT
#8470
On December 01 2011 01:18 BoomChild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 00:39 Clearout wrote:
Anyone else having the strange problem where when you look at an npc he gets muted? To talk to people I have to continually look off to the side of them, which gets to be a really annoying minigame when you talk to more than one person.. I also had this problem with Space Marine, have no idea what causes it.



I'm not 100% sure where to check this, but if you have your speaker settings set up for someing like 5.1 or 6.1 surround sound, and you use headphones to play, the voices when you look directly at a NPC will attempt to play though the "center" speaker. I believe it's a bug where the game doesn't compensate if there isn't actually a center speaker active. If you want to use headphones I'd likely switch your default sound settings to headphone in the control panel in windows until someone has a better answer..
This may be it, I have it on 2.1 on the computer, since I don't have a center speaker. This seems localized to steam though so they may have some setting mucking things up. Atleast now I have a place to look, thanks!
really?
Dutchess
Profile Joined May 2011
United States22 Posts
November 30 2011 16:49 GMT
#8471
On December 01 2011 01:17 Kingqway wrote:
Just curious, for the guys on TL who play the game are you guys playing it on a console or the PC? Looking at the Beth forums made me worry that the PC version is just bug-ridden, lol, but I don't know. If it's anything like B.net forums, then that's the last place I would want to check in terms of making sure I clear up any bug fixes before I start playing.


I have 0 issues running Skyrim on max settings. No crashes, no problems tabbing, no bugged quests, nothing. I've got 3 characters at lvl 50 as well, so I think I've been playing a fair amount. I think the voices of the people having issues will seem very loud and make it seem like everyone is having problems with the game because they all have something to report that needs fixing. The people having no problems probably won't say anything because they're content with their experience and don't have any desired changes/fixes to vocalize.

My roomates have been playing it on 360 while I've been playing it on PC and it really is way better on PC. I only recently switched to PC games from console, and I'm seriously confused about why I waited so long. Skyrim in particular looks way better, runs smoother, loads faster, everything seems improved over the 360/PS3 version. My only possible complaint is that sometimes the menus are a tad clunky with the mouse, but that really isn't a big deal at all.

Seriously though switching from playing BF3 and Skyrim on Xbox 360 to playing them on PC has been a night and day difference. The PC experience is vastly superior to the console one. The consoles are easier to deal with I think, which is really the only advantage they have over PCs (or well I guess easier to deal with and [arguably]cheaper).
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 30 2011 16:50 GMT
#8472
On December 01 2011 01:17 Kingqway wrote:
Just curious, for the guys on TL who play the game are you guys playing it on a console or the PC? Looking at the Beth forums made me worry that the PC version is just bug-ridden, lol, but I don't know. If it's anything like B.net forums, then that's the last place I would want to check in terms of making sure I clear up any bug fixes before I start playing.


Depends what you want out of the game I guess.
The game definately runs smoother on console, there are just a ton of bugs for the PC version and from what I've heard there are less on the consoles. The game crashed, got stuck and simply didn't work well for me on PC. There were bugs assigning weapons and a few (main)quests got stuck for me. Also the interface sucks on PC and is definately made for consoles.

On PC you do have the console to fix some things though which you can't do on console. If you are used to it it also controls easier I guess but if that doesn;t matter to you console is probably preferred (because the interface is definately designed for that). Finally a lot of the quirks might be solved for mods on PC, which won't happen on console.

So my advice if you don't care much between keyboard or controller is to get the console version if you just want to play the normal game. Get the pc version if you want to use mods and wait for some stuff to get fixed.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 30 2011 16:52 GMT
#8473
On November 30 2011 23:54 Bengui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 23:45 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 30 2011 23:36 Bengui wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:26 Doraemon wrote:
(i dual wield and the other weapon has the suck a soul if kill within 5 seconds, but it always comes up with the message "no soul gems large enough")


Just a little precision : you can't be running around casting soul trap on random enemies, because if you don't have a gem of the proper size for the enemy you just kill, its soul is going to in a gem one size larger, essentially "wasting" that gem. If you're not careful, you're going to end up with a lot of petty and lesser souls stored in common and greater gems.
You need to know exactly which enemies gives you which souls and how many empty souls of each size you have in your inventory, and use a third weapon when you find an enemy that you can safely soul trap.

It doesn't matter. For improving enchanting any soul gem will do. And if you want to enchant something that you will use buying a grand soul gem with a grand soul inside is much more simple.

Well yeah, I guess it doesn't matter as much as I made it sound... but enchanting with lesser gems will give you less money.

Like money matters in this game after lvl 15 :D

The amount of extra effort you save is worth more then a bit more cash.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 30 2011 17:14 GMT
#8474
On PC you can force dumb ass npcs to stop using their goddamn bow instead of their sword and whatnot

Also playing Elder Scrolls games on consoles just seems weird to me lol
dats racist
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
November 30 2011 17:42 GMT
#8475
On December 01 2011 01:50 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:17 Kingqway wrote:
Just curious, for the guys on TL who play the game are you guys playing it on a console or the PC? Looking at the Beth forums made me worry that the PC version is just bug-ridden, lol, but I don't know. If it's anything like B.net forums, then that's the last place I would want to check in terms of making sure I clear up any bug fixes before I start playing.


Depends what you want out of the game I guess.
The game definately runs smoother on console, there are just a ton of bugs for the PC version and from what I've heard there are less on the consoles. The game crashed, got stuck and simply didn't work well for me on PC. There were bugs assigning weapons and a few (main)quests got stuck for me. Also the interface sucks on PC and is definately made for consoles.

On PC you do have the console to fix some things though which you can't do on console. If you are used to it it also controls easier I guess but if that doesn;t matter to you console is probably preferred (because the interface is definately designed for that). Finally a lot of the quirks might be solved for mods on PC, which won't happen on console.

So my advice if you don't care much between keyboard or controller is to get the console version if you just want to play the normal game. Get the pc version if you want to use mods and wait for some stuff to get fixed.

Your conclusion is just plain bizarre. "If you don't care much between keyboard or controller get the console version"? If you don't mind what you use then you can get it on PC and have the ability to choose kb+mouse OR gamepad.

Game runs "smoother on console"? What nonsense. Consoles run the game at 30 FPS at a shitty resolution, low detail and long loading times. The interface is bad on PC, yes, but it is bad for ALL platforms - it is no better or worse on the PC. At least on the PC we have the ability to mod the UI to improve it (interface mods already exist), or simply plug a controller in if you want. All platforms have bugs, but PC users can actually do something about those bugs as we have access to the console (afaik it is actually the PS3 with the worst bugs as they are getting corrupted savegames ruining their progress!!).

The big thing is that there is already a load of tweaks and mods available on PC, and that's before we actually have the proper toolkit. Expect a HUGE array of improvements and mods when that arrives. Think the textures are poor? You can improve them. Think the visual feel of the game could be changed? You can change it. Think dragons are too weak? Buff them. Wish the children weren't invulnerable? Grab the mod. Wish you could battle 10 dragons at once? Do it.

If you have a PC that is capable of running the game there is literally no reason to get the game on a console.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
November 30 2011 17:46 GMT
#8476
On December 01 2011 01:47 Clearout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 01:18 BoomChild wrote:
On December 01 2011 00:39 Clearout wrote:
Anyone else having the strange problem where when you look at an npc he gets muted? To talk to people I have to continually look off to the side of them, which gets to be a really annoying minigame when you talk to more than one person.. I also had this problem with Space Marine, have no idea what causes it.



I'm not 100% sure where to check this, but if you have your speaker settings set up for someing like 5.1 or 6.1 surround sound, and you use headphones to play, the voices when you look directly at a NPC will attempt to play though the "center" speaker. I believe it's a bug where the game doesn't compensate if there isn't actually a center speaker active. If you want to use headphones I'd likely switch your default sound settings to headphone in the control panel in windows until someone has a better answer..
This may be it, I have it on 2.1 on the computer, since I don't have a center speaker. This seems localized to steam though so they may have some setting mucking things up. Atleast now I have a place to look, thanks!

If the exact same issue is happening on multiple games, which you say is the case, then extremely unlikely to be an issue with Skyrim itself - some audio relationship with your computer is going wrong. Check your computer audio settings and skyrim's (and Space Marine) audio settings and make sure everything looks ok. Experiment with different setups (eg changing to headphones instead of 5.1 etc) and see if that helps.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 30 2011 18:00 GMT
#8477
So... I am stuck in a quest. I need to get to the archmage but using his door always crashes the game, I have tried the console.
GetStage <id> - Used to get the current quest stage for given quest ID (use command ShowQuestTargets for IDs).
SetStage <id> - Used to set the quest stage (Useful for bugged quests), for given quest ID (use command ShowQuestTargets for IDs). Common usage is to add 10 to the stage number given to advance past a bugged portion of a quest.

got the id, got the stage, and it is 70, but aparently it is the last one, so it wont recognice stage 80... any idea what can be done? I want to keep playing the mages quest line.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 18:06:25
November 30 2011 18:03 GMT
#8478
I installed patch 1.2 on skyrim now and I can say there are good fixes but the new bugs beth brought in is just atrocious -_-


1) Interface with your mouse ACTUALLY works now! Yeah now it doesnt click random dialogue choices and wont auto leave if you click elsewhere!

2) New Bug: Magic resistance doesn't exist. I just confirmed this on my breton conjurer: fire does exact same damage as frost against flame thralls -_-. Also my flame thrall one shotted me o.O

Also magic resistance affects everybody including you, so if you're one of those guys who love your 70+ magic resistance, you are FUCKED

According to the internet, Xbox users will encounter the same bug as us

3) New Bug: Your skyrim won't start up. This can be fixed with a vertify cache thing on steam however there is a huge downside

Your skyrimpref.ini will be reset, and if you're using alot of modded stuff enjoy rewriting that damn thing cause I sure had a fucking blast!




Until bethseda fixes the resistance bug I see no reason to play until this is fixed
Resistance was the only thing that made my mage so durable
dats racist
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
November 30 2011 18:25 GMT
#8479
Since the new patch I literally can't make it 10 minutes without a crash from having had it relatively crash free since the previous patch...
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
November 30 2011 18:49 GMT
#8480
On December 01 2011 03:03 MrHoon wrote:
3) New Bug: Your skyrim won't start up. This can be fixed with a vertify cache thing on steam however there is a huge downside
Your skyrimpref.ini will be reset, and if you're using alot of modded stuff enjoy rewriting that damn thing cause I sure had a fucking blast!


Thank you! I was getting mad, wondering why the game was not starting...
A bit annoying for the .ini files but I did not have that many changes so did not take too long to have everything back to normal.
I guess they really do not have a QA department in this company...
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