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StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
November 29 2011 07:24 GMT
#8301
On November 29 2011 16:04 rewired wrote:
Does that mean that you cant upgrade the daedric artifacts to legendary they just stop at flawless then?
if so then boooo


You need the daedric smithing perk to get to "legendary".
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
November 29 2011 07:28 GMT
#8302
On November 29 2011 16:04 rewired wrote:
Does that mean that you cant upgrade the daedric artifacts to legendary they just stop at flawless then?
if so then boooo

Have you tried upgrading them with 100 smithing? I got some random mask to Legendary by upgrading it with iron bars.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 07:40:16
November 29 2011 07:33 GMT
#8303
On November 29 2011 09:47 LunaSaint wrote:
Tyler: Cut Alteration, and your build is really efficient. The base 100 magicka should be fine for restoration, no need to really add any. You'll only need to use it to cast fast heals or close wounds this way, which are cheap enough if you put in the perks.
That said, Alteration might still work as the armour buffs will cut damage intake, and you're still not spending much time using magic. Depends if you want to put many perks in there I suppose.

Block is really handy as it dramatically reduces the damage you take when timed well, and is the quickest way to interrupt power attacks/dragon breath/spells.

I found that stamina was great as it lets you get in more blocks and power attacks, important for interrupting high level casters and dragons.

Also, Stamina means you can run for much longer and carry more stuff, which is really useful when you use heavy armour. So I'd say once you have "enough" hp, dump the rest in Stamina.

Keep a bow with you, as it's versatile and doesn't really cut into your other skills much.

I agree with this. Basically:

1. Choose one of the following: Heavy Armor, Light Armor, Alteration, or possibly Sneak (if you're going to be an alchemist or enchanter or both). If you're heavily sneak specced (or will have access to Potions or equipment that fortifies it), no perk points need to be devoted to this step, thus I suggest wearing Light Armor and leaving it at that. Alteration can work with the LA or HA, but I'd bypass the unarmored perks and go for the magic resistance/atronach ones. I'm unsure whether or not the unarmored bonus works with Dragonhide, although it's not like it can get much better than it is otherwise.
2. Choose one of the following: Marksman, 1h + Destruction, Full Destruction, 1h + Block, 1h + 1h, 2h. If choosing one of the latter three options, you'll probably use Slow Time or Whirlwind Sprint shouts to close distance to your enemies. Marksman can be coupled with one of the other options until you get enough points for the Ranger perk and especially if you get Power Shot and Quick Shot, at which point you can consider your bow to also be your melee weapon.
3. Utility shit is completely optional and up to you. Sneak works best with either Marksman or 1h + 1h (usually daggers), and is also compatible with Illusion and is greatly bolstered by Enchanting and/or Alchemy. Crafting and other types of spellcasting not outlined above also fall into this category. Everyone will most likely level the Lockpicking skill, but the perks for it are somewhat dubious in utility. I only suggest Pickpocketing if you plan to complete the majority of the Thieves' Guild questline in Riften, otherwise you're probably better off putting filler points into Speech (if any).

And that's pretty much the rough flowchart on how to make viable builds. Some of course will be more viable than others and oftentimes bridge the gap between a fun build and pure minmaxing. You'll probably have to minmax a little to be competent in Master difficulty however if you take it to extremes even Master is too easy.

On November 29 2011 16:24 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 16:04 rewired wrote:
Does that mean that you cant upgrade the daedric artifacts to legendary they just stop at flawless then?
if so then boooo


You need the daedric smithing perk to get to "legendary".

Actually the smithing perks only function as a big bonus to your smithing skill. If you take silly amounts of enchanting and alchemy you can still improve gear to Legendary status without a single perk bought in the Smithing Constellation.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
November 29 2011 08:06 GMT
#8304
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
November 29 2011 08:08 GMT
#8305
On the shouts page there will be a list of things you can do on the bottom, like how to add it to your favorites list, etc. Looking down there, you'll also see what key to press to spend a soul on it to activate it. If you're playing on 360 or PC with a 360 controller, it's X, not sure what it is on keyboard or PS3.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 08:18:58
November 29 2011 08:16 GMT
#8306
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
November 29 2011 08:36 GMT
#8307
On November 29 2011 17:16 On_Slaught wrote:
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.


OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 29 2011 08:45 GMT
#8308
On November 29 2011 17:36 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 17:16 On_Slaught wrote:
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.


OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D

+1 for terrible UI :D
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
November 29 2011 08:50 GMT
#8309
On November 29 2011 17:36 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 17:16 On_Slaught wrote:
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.


OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D


It took me also a long time to find that, and I discovered that you can bind your favorites after finishing the main quest
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9589 Posts
November 29 2011 08:50 GMT
#8310
On November 29 2011 17:36 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 17:16 On_Slaught wrote:
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.


OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D


Dude I'm lv 42 and if TL didn't tell me I can hotkey items/spells to 1-9 from my favourite list I'd still be pausing during every battle.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 29 2011 09:26 GMT
#8311
On November 29 2011 17:50 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 17:36 Bleak wrote:
On November 29 2011 17:16 On_Slaught wrote:
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.


OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D


Dude I'm lv 42 and if TL didn't tell me I can hotkey items/spells to 1-9 from my favourite list I'd still be pausing during every battle.

it's 1-9? i thought it was 1-8 D:
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 09:28:13
November 29 2011 09:28 GMT
#8312
OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D


Didn't knew that either until like ~15 or something like that. Bad UI is just bad
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 29 2011 09:35 GMT
#8313
In almost every way the UI is better than the previous games had, it's the things about it that aren't right that jump out at you. Morrowind's ui is absolutely maddening, you guys probably don't understand because you played it for the first time so long ago but believe me skyrim makes it look like an 80 button vcr for interface sophistication.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
November 29 2011 09:35 GMT
#8314
Until you hit the higher levels (~30-40) steel smithing > daedric smithing. You have to invest perks into dwarven->orc->ebony before you get daedric crafting. Because of how smithing upgrade works, the 4 points spent in to getting "daedric equipment" (which is only ~5 to 15% increase in stats: the higher your smithing skill the lower the increase) is better spent in other trees such as your weapon/armor tree or enchanting (a giant perk sink with 5/5 enchanting+3 points to get dual enchants).

I feel that alteration is somewhat of an off balanced tree. The protection spells cost way too much magicka and do not last long enough. If you are wearing pure cloth: even with mage armor the protection spells wouldn't be enough to save you from real damage. 30% Magic Resist is nice but it is quite expensive for 3 points (if you equip yourself properly when fighting mages you shouldn't have a problem with magic. 40% resist pots can be bought vs dragon priests).

Things take a huge turn as you hit masters and gain the 80% reduction spell (which is equal to max physical reduction via armor: but at the same time all your previous investment into mage armor become "lost perks").

Skyrim has very fun physics, would be even better if telekinesis can be used to throw enemies around, or simply throw a heavy object at your enemy.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 29 2011 09:49 GMT
#8315
On November 29 2011 15:22 Latchy wrote:
Help please!!
Ive become a vampire accidently and I do not know how to undo the diease/cuse. Does someone know how?


Ask any innkeeper about rumors, they'll point you to someone who can help.

The longer you go without blood the more your vampire side comes out, you'll get all kinds of powers but people will get more and more freaked out by you. You will eventually need to feed on someone to regain your human appearance so people don't attack you on sight but until you decide to cure yourself you might as well try it out for a bit.

On November 29 2011 14:23 DocM wrote:
I feel like this could take up an entirely different thread but,
Anyone else do some serious roleplay for their skyrim characters?
My first character is a Khajit psychopath/axe murderer. He delights in killing women with his rusty woodcutting axe and wiping out entire towns during the night. Especially riverwood, but they're gone now. He is currently doing dark brotherhood and he is finished with the theives guild.
My second character was a racist nord who loves to cook. He did the Stormcloak quests.
My third character is a rich noble from Cyrodil. The biggest restriction here is that he is a coward, and literally cant do anything in combat but use a shield. He can only wear fine robes. He hired the dark elf in White Run for 500 gold and then got a dog for a pet, so he is basically running around with the A team becoming the thane of everything and doing the bard quests.
My fourth character will be a spell-sheild who is gonna do the main quest. He is going to have a quirk to him eventually.

I also played hardcore mode, no in game map allowed, im keeping a journal of everything I do in game (but seperate ones for each of my characters). Might even do a blog about them.


I would be very interested in a journal of that kind
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
November 29 2011 09:50 GMT
#8316
On November 29 2011 18:35 Hikari wrote:Skyrim has very fun physics, would be even better if telekinesis can be used to throw enemies around, or simply throw a heavy object at your enemy.

I managed to assassinate someone with a bucket using telekinesis!
But that's the whole extent it's been useful apart from goofing about. Would really have loved it to be more useful
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 10:57:33
November 29 2011 10:56 GMT
#8317
On November 29 2011 18:28 Rikke wrote:
Show nested quote +
OMG /facepalm. I was wondering how to unlock them. I have 13 freaking dragon souls, I can probably unlock all shouts. I had no idea I had to push R for that. I am level 25 and I don't know that haha >D


Didn't knew that either until like ~15 or something like that. Bad UI is just bad


in the intro you get told how to bind things to favourites, and if you just open your eyes you see that you can unlock shouts with dragon souls using R, I don't understand how you guys manage to mess that up and then blame the UI for it. All it takes is a few extra seconds, if you are not willing to spend those you probably bought the wrong game..
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 11:20:44
November 29 2011 11:12 GMT
#8318
On November 29 2011 14:23 DocM wrote:
I feel like this could take up an entirely different thread but,
Anyone else do some serious roleplay for their skyrim characters?
My first character is a Khajit psychopath/axe murderer. He delights in killing women with his rusty woodcutting axe and wiping out entire towns during the night. Especially riverwood, but they're gone now. He is currently doing dark brotherhood and he is finished with the theives guild.
My second character was a racist nord who loves to cook. He did the Stormcloak quests.
My third character is a rich noble from Cyrodil. The biggest restriction here is that he is a coward, and literally cant do anything in combat but use a shield. He can only wear fine robes. He hired the dark elf in White Run for 500 gold and then got a dog for a pet, so he is basically running around with the A team becoming the thane of everything and doing the bard quests.
My fourth character will be a spell-sheild who is gonna do the main quest. He is going to have a quirk to him eventually.

I also played hardcore mode, no in game map allowed, im keeping a journal of everything I do in game (but seperate ones for each of my characters). Might even do a blog about them.


I just played my first character, mage with heavy armor, doing mostly good quests bad evil things too.

It was fun but now I tried to emphasis the RPG aspect of the game, that is a ton more fun

Currently I am playing a mage that somwhat is a young version of Gandalf, good at magic obviously but also very good at speech, enchanting and alchemy, trying to spare lifes wherever possible, only clothes, nor armor. Not interested in profit but rather helping people, not doing the main quest for a long time since I want Mankind to deal with that them selves, only helping once I see they cannot deal with the task. I use a Sword since I imagine Gandalf got his Wand from the Order, that does not even exist right now. I only level Magic (destruction the least/latest), Speech, Enchant and Alchemy. This way at the End I will have Mastered all the magic Stuff + Speech and no sneaking/Combat. Which overall fits my idea.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 29 2011 11:26 GMT
#8319
i just stumbled upon this great thread on how to play Skyrm properly at the Master level..for those experienced or daring enough to try it

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/ms9eo/lets_have_a_thread_full_of_tips_for_people/

don't miss n0ggy's long post about halfway down the thread either
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
November 29 2011 11:30 GMT
#8320
On November 29 2011 17:16 On_Slaught wrote:
No wonder all the guards stop lvling at 20.

They all took an arrow to the knee.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 17:06 Bleak wrote:
How do I actually learn to use my new shouts? I have a ton of shouts greyed out and not usable, do I need to go to Greybeards and do their quests to learn this new shouts?

Also, asking this for maybe a millionth time but does nobody know if the stuff in Arch-Mage Quarters respawn?


When you kill dragons you get their souls (the amount you have is in the bottom right corner when in the shout section). You then spend a soul to unlock a shout (push R if using PC).

As for the Arch-Mage quarters, yes it respawns. Dunno how long. Wouldn't be suprised if it is 30days like mines though.


OMG Thank you SO much!!! I'm level 25 and had absolutely no idea about that... And I would probably never have guessed without someone asking the question... That's so important in the game, why is that written like nowhere?

Anyway, cannot wait for tonight after work to try my new shouts
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