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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:35:03
November 28 2011 22:34 GMT
#8241
You can just eat a Vegetable Soup or Venison Stew for the exact same effect. You only need 1 Stamina to power attack is so broken. They last for 10 minutes too ^_^

I like absorb health on my weapon personally. Never have to use potions anymore, although it's also kinda annoying to recharge.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 28 2011 22:42 GMT
#8242
On November 29 2011 07:31 Hikari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:28 pPingu wrote:
BTW what do you guys think it's better? Join the legion, the companions,... or just nothing? (Or is it possible to join multiple groups?)


You can join everything. I recommend the legion/stormcloak 1st as those quests are very easy (followed by Companion quests). You have to kill a dragon priest towards the end of the mage guild quest which can be painful if you do not have any shock resistance equip+potion ready. You might even just die from the bone dragon at the beginning of the Labyrinthian.

Thief guild rewards you with a pretty good set of light armor towards the end but is scaled towards your level: so you might want to save that for when your level is high to get the best version. Dark brotherhood quests are pretty easy and the "standard issue" gear is very good if you play an assassin type character with sneak (double backstab damage gloves, muffled boots, 35% easier sneak hood: at the end of the whole chain you also get 20k septims as a reward).


Okay, thank you very much.
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
November 28 2011 22:50 GMT
#8243
On November 29 2011 07:34 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
You can just eat a Vegetable Soup or Venison Stew for the exact same effect. You only need 1 Stamina to power attack is so broken. They last for 10 minutes too ^_^

I like absorb health on my weapon personally. Never have to use potions anymore, although it's also kinda annoying to recharge.


In this case I suppose elemental enchants on weapons might offer the highest dps boost?

The absorb effect really annoys me: I dislike the screen flash every hit so I have been staying away from them. I am putting a lot of restrains on myself so I do not become overpowered making the game too easy even on master difficulty. Atm I am using dragonbane+skyforge steel sword with 1s soul drain. I only charge up the dragonbane when I am actually killing a dragon as its charges deplete fully in ~20 hits.

Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
November 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#8244
On November 29 2011 07:42 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:31 Hikari wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:28 pPingu wrote:
BTW what do you guys think it's better? Join the legion, the companions,... or just nothing? (Or is it possible to join multiple groups?)


You can join everything. I recommend the legion/stormcloak 1st as those quests are very easy (followed by Companion quests). You have to kill a dragon priest towards the end of the mage guild quest which can be painful if you do not have any shock resistance equip+potion ready. You might even just die from the bone dragon at the beginning of the Labyrinthian.

Thief guild rewards you with a pretty good set of light armor towards the end but is scaled towards your level: so you might want to save that for when your level is high to get the best version. Dark brotherhood quests are pretty easy and the "standard issue" gear is very good if you play an assassin type character with sneak (double backstab damage gloves, muffled boots, 35% easier sneak hood: at the end of the whole chain you also get 20k septims as a reward).


Okay, thank you very much.


Forgot to mention that the companion filler quest in the middle is somewhat random. I have gotten one where all I had to do is take part in a fist fight, and I have also gotten one on another character where I have to clear this cave full of vampires that drains my health faster than I can damage them at low levels.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:59:38
November 28 2011 22:55 GMT
#8245
Heard a lot of people saying that their characters are getting wiped out on certain dungeons / mobs. Keep in mind that the game does adjust itself to your level, albeit not as radically as Oblivion did.

If you don't want to have a hard time with mobs / dungeons then it is imperative that you level up your combat skills equally with other skills. If you just level crafting skills and then hit level 30 and still have beginner skill perks for your weapon / magic stuff, you're in big trouble when level 30 mobs start beating on you.

The perks for battle skills are huge bonuses that make a difference. By level 12 on this Red Guard character I have a +60% damage to One Hand and +60% damage with Archery, plus my Heavy Armor is 65% stronger. Not to mention having a good block as well.

Keep in mind that I don't have any crafting skill perks with this particular character, but I will start to mix them in now that I have a solid set of combat skills to handle enemies.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 28 2011 23:12 GMT
#8246
On November 29 2011 07:50 Hikari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:34 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
You can just eat a Vegetable Soup or Venison Stew for the exact same effect. You only need 1 Stamina to power attack is so broken. They last for 10 minutes too ^_^

I like absorb health on my weapon personally. Never have to use potions anymore, although it's also kinda annoying to recharge.


In this case I suppose elemental enchants on weapons might offer the highest dps boost?

The absorb effect really annoys me: I dislike the screen flash every hit so I have been staying away from them. I am putting a lot of restrains on myself so I do not become overpowered making the game too easy even on master difficulty. Atm I am using dragonbane+skyforge steel sword with 1s soul drain. I only charge up the dragonbane when I am actually killing a dragon as its charges deplete fully in ~20 hits.



Soul Drain on weapon is annoying too because if you ever run out of smaller soul gems you'll have to drop all the grand soul gems you have crappy souls in. I always just use the spell seeing as I need conjuration levels anyways ^_^ I do have a weapon with soul trap on it though, although I've never used it. Filling greater soul gems with lesser souls isn't as bad cause you'll probably waste them leveling enchanting anyways, but grand soul gems fill up a weapon all the way so they're pretty awesome.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:18:23
November 28 2011 23:18 GMT
#8247
gotta thank the people again who helped me out last night fixing the forbidden legend stuff. probably my favourite quest so far XD
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
November 28 2011 23:19 GMT
#8248
On November 29 2011 07:55 SCST wrote:
Heard a lot of people saying that their characters are getting wiped out on certain dungeons / mobs. Keep in mind that the game does adjust itself to your level, albeit not as radically as Oblivion did.

If you don't want to have a hard time with mobs / dungeons then it is imperative that you level up your combat skills equally with other skills. If you just level crafting skills and then hit level 30 and still have beginner skill perks for your weapon / magic stuff, you're in big trouble when level 30 mobs start beating on you.

The perks for battle skills are huge bonuses that make a difference. By level 12 on this Red Guard character I have a +60% damage to One Hand and +60% damage with Archery, plus my Heavy Armor is 65% stronger. Not to mention having a good block as well.

Keep in mind that I don't have any crafting skill perks with this particular character, but I will start to mix them in now that I have a solid set of combat skills to handle enemies.


I think the main culprit would be speech and lockpicking (and sneak on non-sneak characters) as well as restoration, plus random skill up books in dungeons.
In my most recent play through that rushed through the main quest I was able to get 80 one handed skill ~level 15 and was able to burst through almost anything in master dual wielding (dragonbane and skyforge steel sword).

I would argue that for physical dps characters smithing is superior to combat skill gains. Smithing increases both damage and defenses (via new equipment and very strong upgrades). No need to "grind" it even though it is the easiest profession to max: unless you want to exploit the game 60 smithing for arcnae blacksmith is good enough imo: you can buy some very sweet gear from merchants: such as a pair of eminent wielding gloves that gives +30% weapon damage, or squire/knight items that gives a bonus to armor skill.

Magicka reduction via enchants is ever so important to destruction pure mages (unless you like to drink potion after every cast and go out of mana in just 5 spells), though the real boost comes from alchemy since that is the only thing which can boost your damage.
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
November 28 2011 23:19 GMT
#8249
What does anyone think of the patch making it so that 3rd party software cant be used, 4GB ram mod etc . . . I know its annoying with piracy but they already tried to stop that by using steam as a must have and not even a disk for anyone. I think they should just give up with that, i mean its gonna happen no matter what pre-cautions they take torwards preventing piracy, I mean the game was cracked one hour right after it was released..
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
November 28 2011 23:36 GMT
#8250
On November 29 2011 08:19 HikariPrime wrote:
What does anyone think of the patch making it so that 3rd party software cant be used, 4GB ram mod etc . . . I know its annoying with piracy but they already tried to stop that by using steam as a must have and not even a disk for anyone. I think they should just give up with that, i mean its gonna happen no matter what pre-cautions they take torwards preventing piracy, I mean the game was cracked one hour right after it was released..


PR guy from Bethesda wrote on Twitter that there was a new work around version, and linked to it on the official forums.

New launcher: bit.ly/tQIE4p




Or in short, this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1288276-laa-4gb-launcher/
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
November 28 2011 23:51 GMT
#8251
On November 29 2011 08:36 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 08:19 HikariPrime wrote:
What does anyone think of the patch making it so that 3rd party software cant be used, 4GB ram mod etc . . . I know its annoying with piracy but they already tried to stop that by using steam as a must have and not even a disk for anyone. I think they should just give up with that, i mean its gonna happen no matter what pre-cautions they take torwards preventing piracy, I mean the game was cracked one hour right after it was released..


PR guy from Bethesda wrote on Twitter that there was a new work around version, and linked to it on the official forums.

Show nested quote +
New launcher: bit.ly/tQIE4p


https://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/status/138991051091349504

Or in short, this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1288276-laa-4gb-launcher/


I think they are getting pressure from steam to force the steam launcher. A lot of people complained about the update breaking their game so I am going to wait for the real patch this Wednesday.
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
November 28 2011 23:53 GMT
#8252
This game is insanely big. I have never before played a game so expansive. I have tried testing multiple different classes. Mage, Warrior(Two Handed), Warrior(Sword and shield), thief(sneaky, stealing guy). All above lvl 20. The amount of quests completed is fairly high.
But this game is just endless.
My only wish was that you could do Co-op with friends. That would be so awesome.
I've almost always played multi-player, so after awhile it gets lonely playing just by myself.
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
MalebrancheSC
Profile Joined January 2011
United States21 Posts
November 28 2011 23:58 GMT
#8253
Not sure if anyone posted this or if it's a bug, but if you have armor enchanted to reduce the cost of a magic school by 100%, a weapon enchanted with spells from that school won't use charge when it's swung. Absorb health also happens to be in the destruction school, so 140 damage healing sword swings with infinite fireballs and a full set of heavy armor is a thing.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 29 2011 00:06 GMT
#8254
What's a good place to sell all my junk. I only know Riverwood and Whiterun ): I get lost easily.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 29 2011 00:15 GMT
#8255
On November 29 2011 09:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's a good place to sell all my junk. I only know Riverwood and Whiterun ): I get lost easily.


Most hold capitals have a general goods trader (they buy everything)...except maybe for Morthal and Dawnstar?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 29 2011 00:20 GMT
#8256
I jsut went to Solitude, she barely could afford the staffs and shit I had.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 29 2011 00:22 GMT
#8257
So I know that there has already been some good discussion on this earlier in the thread somewhere but it's just gonna be impossible for me to read so many pages, so sorry...

I quit playing my first character kinda early on so that I could start over on master difficulty and play the game "naturally" (like no cheap exploits to power level a certain skill, no save/load for pickpocketing, no looking stuff up like what certain alchemy ingredients do, etc). So the thing is, I just don't have a ton of time to play skyrim and I wanna be sure that the build I'm going for isn't terrible.

The skills I'm leveling up right now are 1hand, block, heavy armor, alteration, restoration. I've had to choose health every time I level up so far, but I'm not sure how to distribute between health/stamina/magicka in the future. I'm thinking I can eventually focus on leveling up sneak and use a dagger and I'll already have a very nice 1hand skill to go with it. And in the far future, eventually level up the crafting skills to make the most powerful gear. But atm I'm avoiding any skill that doesn't help me in combat. Is this gonna work out? I don't really want a bunch of tips or a guide or a whole build, but rather I just want to know if my build will be good enough to work, and if not, what are the least amount of changes I need to make it viable. Thanks!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 00:38:08
November 29 2011 00:27 GMT
#8258
Adding the Alteration and Restoration is stretching yourself thin on masters. If you'd just focus on 1 hand, Heavy Armor, Block, then you'd just need to worry about stamina and health as opposed to all three. Then you could spend your extra perks at the later levels on Crafting skills.

But since you're playing on masters, keep in mind that you will need to use health potions. Simple as that.

edit: The ratio I used for Health/Stamina was 1:1 until I felt that I could finish most fights with a little stamina left over..but I had some boosted stamina regeneration. However, I was a pure Sneak, One-Handed, Light Armor (with 2 perks in Lockpicking to not get detected), so maybe you should do a 3:2 or 5:4 Health/Stamina ratio. Since you're playing on PC (I would assume), you could always use console commands to redistribute your max health and stamina.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 29 2011 00:33 GMT
#8259
I accidentally found a smily for you guys to use. It's pretty neat.

It's done using : 0 ] without the spaces ofc.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 29 2011 00:35 GMT
#8260
rofl, while I was in the inn, apparently a dragon attacked cause its dead in the middle of the city.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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