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Ezkaton
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Japan416 Posts
November 19 2011 08:54 GMT
#6941
So I'm at the point in the Dark Brotherhood quests where

+ Show Spoiler +
you have to go and get shadowmere, but I went out to the pool, It bubbled, I heard a Horse go neigh and no horse appeared. I then got the quest to 'behold shadowmere' completed but I cant actually use him as he hasn't appeared Has this happened to anyone else?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
November 19 2011 09:14 GMT
#6942
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Then you have fast travel (which I refuse to use) and this totally crappy flying-camera finishing moves. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FrostFire626
Profile Joined April 2010
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 09:27:42
November 19 2011 09:18 GMT
#6943
On November 19 2011 18:14 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.


I play all of my games on PC and I adapted to the UI just fine. You're complaining about completely optional fast travel, which makes no sense whatsoever. To top it off, you're complaining about linearity in an open-world RPG. Lay off the Skooma.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 19 2011 09:20 GMT
#6944
On November 19 2011 17:21 ch72105 wrote:
If you don't know how vampirism works, look it up right now!

I just spent all night trying to rescue a save file from vampirism.

I'm new to Elder Scrolls, had no idea what happens when you're a vampire. All of a sudden everyone in town started trying to kill me and I had no idea why. Turns out it's vampirism, and if you're a vampire and you don't feed on sleeping people eventually you'll get flagged and everyone everywhere will try to kill you.

Had to look up how to cure vampirism, then had to spend hours trying to navigate my way from the oldest save file I had to being cured of vampirism, without killing any important NPCs. I wasn't even sure at some points if it was even possible.

Seems really really stupid to me that Bethesda would leave this in without some serious design changes. I'm looking online and every discussion about curing vampirism is filled with people complaining about how stupid it is and how their save files are rendered unplayable.

Basically, if you come into contact with a vampire, drink a cure disease potion or activate the Shrine to Talos in Whiterun. If you don't cure that disease, it'll develop into you being a vampire, and then you have to feed on people to avoid getting "apocalypse flagged" (where every NPC in the game tries to kill you on sight), and you can cure vampirism by talking to an innkeeper, selecting "Have you heard any rumors?" and following that quest to Falion in Morthal.

You act like you can only have one character ever during the course of the game. You get multiple messages which pop up, and you don't actually transform until you sleep in a bed.

Also, anywhere there are NPC's and bed, one of them is going to sleep. Unless you've cleared out the entire world you're going to find people to drink from.
SnowyPsilocybin
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom265 Posts
November 19 2011 10:00 GMT
#6945
How come some of the dragons have names and others don't?

I was just running round on my horse to the next place for the dark brotherhood and then that big huge dragon from the start summoned up another dragon and that one had a name, Where as other Dragon that have appeared randomly, are just simply called "Dragon"

Additionally, it turns out, that Giants > Dragons. One helped me kill a Dragon and it killed it super quick, it was fairly amusing to see
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
November 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#6946
Dragons are random spawns, named dragons are pre-made fights that happen in specific locations. If you go to
+ Show Spoiler +
Delphine's secret room, the map on the table marks all of the spots
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
November 19 2011 10:05 GMT
#6947
Uh 100 Enchanting + 20% better enchants potion = 28% reduced cost of destruction spells + 70 health on Neckless, Ring and Diadem + Master Destruction robe, 100 Alteration I got 500hp, 300armor, 30% magic resist and free master destruction spells

Too bad i didnt knew its possible to get -100% spell cost from begining... I would not pump most points in magica XD
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 10:34:13
November 19 2011 10:28 GMT
#6948
On November 19 2011 19:03 Camail wrote:
Dragons are random spawns, named dragons are pre-made fights that happen in specific locations. If you go to
+ Show Spoiler +
Delphine's secret room, the map on the table marks all of the spots


I have met named dragons that I'm pretty sure have been random encounters as well. One attacked me as I was running through a village I've been to several times before. It wasn't any harder than the normal dagons though, in fact a tad easier than the random frozen dragon I'm meeting right now.
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
November 19 2011 10:48 GMT
#6949
On November 19 2011 18:14 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Then you have fast travel (which I refuse to use) and this totally crappy flying-camera finishing moves. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.

Go away...

You can get lost in caves from time to time, especially if you don't use pointer/map.
Don't use fast travel then, duh. Personally i have better things to do then spend so much time running.
Finishing moves are awesome.
UI is fine.

Stop bitching about everything...
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
SnowyPsilocybin
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom265 Posts
November 19 2011 10:49 GMT
#6950
i felt like an episode of the simpsons then, i stepped out of the dark brotherhood house(whatever its called) and i was attacked by hired goons!

Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
November 19 2011 10:53 GMT
#6951
lmao I fucked up hard on the main quest.

Party spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
With all the sneaky talk before I went into the party I thought I was suppose to be stealth and only kill if necessary so I just smuggled in 2 worthless daggers. Fml when I left the party and had to fight some people in the house which I managed to survive some how but when I got out on the yard I'm so dead. I can't sneak thru everyone either because they are so many out there. I want my bow and blade :'(
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11859 Posts
November 19 2011 11:16 GMT
#6952
On November 19 2011 13:40 Steelavocado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 13:31 ZeromuS wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:13 Steelavocado wrote:
I have an honest question for everyone.
I have been trying to enjoy my first day with this game, but the mouse lag makes the game unplayable.
I have tried editting the acceleration and the X Y axis stuff and the iPresent thing, but it is still not working.
Here are my specs: I run on a Dell XPS 17
+ Show Spoiler +
System Model: Dell System XPS L502X
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
System DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)

------------

If you think this should go the tech forum, I will move it there, but since most of you may have encountered this problem I am trying here first, thanks

Edit- I tried unchecking all of the XboX settings


Disable vsync in the config file using:

Add

iPresentInterval=0

to the cfg as the last line of display

That should fix it.

some people have said this disables steam achievements others have said it doesnt. I got an achievement today after enabling this setting so idk :/

Yea I tried that too. I tried each graphics setting in addition to these "fixes" but nothing is working. I am thinking it has to do with my cpu specs but IDK.
Here is my Skyrim prefs file + Show Spoiler +
[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=5
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=8
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000
fGamma=1.0000
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=500.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=1000.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=0
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=900
iSize W=1600
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=3
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10
bFloatPointRenderTarget=0
iPresentInterval=0
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
fGrassStartFadeDistance=3500.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=0
bMouseAcceleration=0
fMouseHeadingYScale=0.0200
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=1.0000
uID3=0
fVal2=0.4000


From my experience, you should lower your general graphics settings. Strangely, if your PC can't handle the game, instead of dropping frames, you just get a lot of input lag. I had the same problem, and just lowered some general stuff, and it went away.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
November 19 2011 11:20 GMT
#6953
On November 19 2011 20:16 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 13:40 Steelavocado wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:31 ZeromuS wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:13 Steelavocado wrote:
I have an honest question for everyone.
I have been trying to enjoy my first day with this game, but the mouse lag makes the game unplayable.
I have tried editting the acceleration and the X Y axis stuff and the iPresent thing, but it is still not working.
Here are my specs: I run on a Dell XPS 17
+ Show Spoiler +
System Model: Dell System XPS L502X
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
System DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)

------------

If you think this should go the tech forum, I will move it there, but since most of you may have encountered this problem I am trying here first, thanks

Edit- I tried unchecking all of the XboX settings


Disable vsync in the config file using:

Add

iPresentInterval=0

to the cfg as the last line of display

That should fix it.

some people have said this disables steam achievements others have said it doesnt. I got an achievement today after enabling this setting so idk :/

Yea I tried that too. I tried each graphics setting in addition to these "fixes" but nothing is working. I am thinking it has to do with my cpu specs but IDK.
Here is my Skyrim prefs file + Show Spoiler +
[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=5
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=8
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000
fGamma=1.0000
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=500.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=1000.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=0
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=900
iSize W=1600
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=3
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10
bFloatPointRenderTarget=0
iPresentInterval=0
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
fGrassStartFadeDistance=3500.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=0
bMouseAcceleration=0
fMouseHeadingYScale=0.0200
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=1.0000
uID3=0
fVal2=0.4000


From my experience, you should lower your general graphics settings. Strangely, if your PC can't handle the game, instead of dropping frames, you just get a lot of input lag. I had the same problem, and just lowered some general stuff, and it went away.



If sc2 freezes, you can still move your mouse around on 1 frozen frame as normal, but Skyrim mouse is part of the game client, if you are running at 5fps it only updates once every 200ms
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 19 2011 11:27 GMT
#6954
On November 19 2011 19:48 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 18:14 Manit0u wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Then you have fast travel (which I refuse to use) and this totally crappy flying-camera finishing moves. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.

Go away...

You can get lost in caves from time to time, especially if you don't use pointer/map.
Don't use fast travel then, duh. Personally i have better things to do then spend so much time running.
Finishing moves are awesome.
UI is fine.

Stop bitching about everything...

While I don't agree with all that he said, it is true that every single dungeon I have been in is linear and I dislike that a lot.
The UI we can't get around is one of the worst UI's in years for PC, just because we can use it does not mean it is good.

I love this game, but it does have huge flaws unfortunately..
"Yeah buddy"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11859 Posts
November 19 2011 11:30 GMT
#6955
On November 19 2011 20:20 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 20:16 Simberto wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:40 Steelavocado wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:31 ZeromuS wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:13 Steelavocado wrote:
I have an honest question for everyone.
I have been trying to enjoy my first day with this game, but the mouse lag makes the game unplayable.
I have tried editting the acceleration and the X Y axis stuff and the iPresent thing, but it is still not working.
Here are my specs: I run on a Dell XPS 17
+ Show Spoiler +
System Model: Dell System XPS L502X
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
System DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)

------------

If you think this should go the tech forum, I will move it there, but since most of you may have encountered this problem I am trying here first, thanks

Edit- I tried unchecking all of the XboX settings


Disable vsync in the config file using:

Add

iPresentInterval=0

to the cfg as the last line of display

That should fix it.

some people have said this disables steam achievements others have said it doesnt. I got an achievement today after enabling this setting so idk :/

Yea I tried that too. I tried each graphics setting in addition to these "fixes" but nothing is working. I am thinking it has to do with my cpu specs but IDK.
Here is my Skyrim prefs file + Show Spoiler +
[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=5
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=8
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000
fGamma=1.0000
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=500.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=1000.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=0
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=900
iSize W=1600
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=3
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10
bFloatPointRenderTarget=0
iPresentInterval=0
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
fGrassStartFadeDistance=3500.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=0
bMouseAcceleration=0
fMouseHeadingYScale=0.0200
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=1.0000
uID3=0
fVal2=0.4000


From my experience, you should lower your general graphics settings. Strangely, if your PC can't handle the game, instead of dropping frames, you just get a lot of input lag. I had the same problem, and just lowered some general stuff, and it went away.



If sc2 freezes, you can still move your mouse around on 1 frozen frame as normal, but Skyrim mouse is part of the game client, if you are running at 5fps it only updates once every 200ms


Yes, but that is the strange thing. You still have normal FPS, you really only get mouse lag.
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
November 19 2011 11:42 GMT
#6956
On November 19 2011 20:27 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 19:48 Gotmog wrote:
On November 19 2011 18:14 Manit0u wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Then you have fast travel (which I refuse to use) and this totally crappy flying-camera finishing moves. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.

Go away...

You can get lost in caves from time to time, especially if you don't use pointer/map.
Don't use fast travel then, duh. Personally i have better things to do then spend so much time running.
Finishing moves are awesome.
UI is fine.

Stop bitching about everything...

While I don't agree with all that he said, it is true that every single dungeon I have been in is linear and I dislike that a lot.
The UI we can't get around is one of the worst UI's in years for PC, just because we can use it does not mean it is good.

I love this game, but it does have huge flaws unfortunately..

Sure it has flaws, bugs to start with.

I don't have any problem with ui, didn't even spend much time adjusting. And getting lost in caves was one of those things i hate about some other games. You can still get into some problems here, so i am fine with it. And some places are just to huge to allow players to get lost.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12726 Posts
November 19 2011 12:04 GMT
#6957
On November 19 2011 18:14 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Then you have fast travel (which I refuse to use) and this totally crappy flying-camera finishing moves. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.

I would prefer going around a well-designed dungeons rather than huge ones that cost me more times to find my ways through things than enjoying the game itself.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
November 19 2011 12:06 GMT
#6958
On November 19 2011 19:53 Termit wrote:
lmao I fucked up hard on the main quest.

Party spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
With all the sneaky talk before I went into the party I thought I was suppose to be stealth and only kill if necessary so I just smuggled in 2 worthless daggers. Fml when I left the party and had to fight some people in the house which I managed to survive some how but when I got out on the yard I'm so dead. I can't sneak thru everyone either because they are so many out there. I want my bow and blade :'(

Should have packed the single most broken item in the game: invis potions.

Sneak kill a guard and take his equipment, you should still be fine.
boomer hands
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 19 2011 12:18 GMT
#6959
Why do alot of quests take my to places I don't want to go :/? I've got all these quests at different main cities and the main quest goes to solitude now, I don't want to go there. I haven't even finished the cities I HAVE discovered. Damnit game damnit TT.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 19 2011 12:27 GMT
#6960
On November 19 2011 20:42 Gotmog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 20:27 Ramong wrote:
On November 19 2011 19:48 Gotmog wrote:
On November 19 2011 18:14 Manit0u wrote:
On November 19 2011 09:18 waffleduck wrote:
On November 19 2011 08:37 Manit0u wrote:
Why is this game so mainstream? You can't even get lost in the caves/ruins any more...

Played Skyrim for 5 hours or so and I'm already bored. I think I'll just play some Morrowind instead.

P. S.
UI in this game is absolute crap when you're on PC.

Honestly there has been an astounding lack of hipsters like this for Skyrim.


By mainstream I meant 'linear + cutscenes'. It's annoying as hell. You enter some old ruins/caves and all you can do is go one way up until the end. Then you have fast travel (which I refuse to use) and this totally crappy flying-camera finishing moves. Add to that the fact that if you're on a PC you're battling the UI more than your opponents and you get yourself a game that's ultimately not-so-good because a lot of enjoyment is being taken away.

Go away...

You can get lost in caves from time to time, especially if you don't use pointer/map.
Don't use fast travel then, duh. Personally i have better things to do then spend so much time running.
Finishing moves are awesome.
UI is fine.

Stop bitching about everything...

While I don't agree with all that he said, it is true that every single dungeon I have been in is linear and I dislike that a lot.
The UI we can't get around is one of the worst UI's in years for PC, just because we can use it does not mean it is good.

I love this game, but it does have huge flaws unfortunately..

Sure it has flaws, bugs to start with.

I don't have any problem with ui, didn't even spend much time adjusting. And getting lost in caves was one of those things i hate about some other games. You can still get into some problems here, so i am fine with it. And some places are just to huge to allow players to get lost.


Getting lost in caves/explore caves is a matter of taste. I personally like to have choices in the dungeons, and not just a linear path, but that is my opinion.

About the UI, it is bad.... sorely lacks a lot. Just the inventory lacks:
* Sorting (by value, weight, when you got it, type, etc.)
* A Log that show what the last item you got was, so that we don't have to go through a huge list.
* Compare item (value, weight, look.)
* A way to open you AND your companion/chest/traders inventory!

The perk UI is also pretty bad for PC, many times did I have to choose a different perk and use w,a,s,d to navigate to the one I actually wanted to look at.

It is ok that you can play the game with this UI, I can too. But it still sucks arse and a developer as big as Bethesda and a game as big as Skyrim can't be allowed to throw this in our faces again...

As I said I love the game, played it a lot and still plays it, but that don't mean that I am a blind fanboy who can't see flaws
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