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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
May 06 2011 12:05 GMT
#161
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/05/mass-effect-3-aimed-at-larger-audiences/
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 12:40:56
May 06 2011 12:38 GMT
#162
On May 06 2011 21:05 True_Spike wrote:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/05/mass-effect-3-aimed-at-larger-audiences/


ok that doesnt sound nice at all...

how the hell do you streamline masseffect more without taking evrything out that made it what it is?

are they trying to make it a CoD inspace with some talk?



i mean in what world do they live in where ME2 didnt have enough appeal to the mainstream`?
a 100% action focused fast paced combat, a very simple dialogue system, obligatory sex scenes, super limited character progression and essentially pretty much no gear at all.
what more do they want?

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Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
May 06 2011 12:45 GMT
#163
"If a game is aimed at a larger audience than it's predecessor, it's a flop."

You can't please everyone.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
May 06 2011 13:35 GMT
#164
It saddens me to see how EA is ruining the best developer around. I thought maybe it would be ok, but Dragon Age 2 and everything I read about Mass Effect 3 makes me wonder why EA even bothered buying Bioware if they were planning on turning them into just another crappy developer. Bioware have never been the kind of dev that Blizzard are, polishing things to an amazing level of sheen. They have always been a company driven by ideas. Implementation hasn't always been perfect but the ideas alone have produced some of my favourite games of all time.

Damn you EA.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 13:44:00
May 06 2011 13:42 GMT
#165
On May 06 2011 22:35 althaz wrote:
It saddens me to see how EA is ruining the best developer around. I thought maybe it would be ok, but Dragon Age 2 and everything I read about Mass Effect 3 makes me wonder why EA even bothered buying Bioware if they were planning on turning them into just another crappy developer. Bioware have never been the kind of dev that Blizzard are, polishing things to an amazing level of sheen. They have always been a company driven by ideas. Implementation hasn't always been perfect but the ideas alone have produced some of my favourite games of all time.

Damn you EA.

"best developer around"?? i think you forget a small company called Blizzard

edit: ok, you didnt forget it^^ still i dont get how you can call Bioware the best
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 06 2011 13:51 GMT
#166
On May 06 2011 22:42 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 22:35 althaz wrote:
It saddens me to see how EA is ruining the best developer around. I thought maybe it would be ok, but Dragon Age 2 and everything I read about Mass Effect 3 makes me wonder why EA even bothered buying Bioware if they were planning on turning them into just another crappy developer. Bioware have never been the kind of dev that Blizzard are, polishing things to an amazing level of sheen. They have always been a company driven by ideas. Implementation hasn't always been perfect but the ideas alone have produced some of my favourite games of all time.

Damn you EA.

"best developer around"?? i think you forget a small company called Blizzard

edit: ok, you didnt forget it^^ still i dont get how you can call Bioware the best



bioware is among the best. look at their titles and their history. they made RPGs what they are today.


and i can understand his post. its just sad when corporate pressure and the stupid mass of "herpderp" gamers changes games/companys.

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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 06 2011 13:51 GMT
#167
On May 06 2011 22:42 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 22:35 althaz wrote:
It saddens me to see how EA is ruining the best developer around. I thought maybe it would be ok, but Dragon Age 2 and everything I read about Mass Effect 3 makes me wonder why EA even bothered buying Bioware if they were planning on turning them into just another crappy developer. Bioware have never been the kind of dev that Blizzard are, polishing things to an amazing level of sheen. They have always been a company driven by ideas. Implementation hasn't always been perfect but the ideas alone have produced some of my favourite games of all time.

Damn you EA.

"best developer around"?? i think you forget a small company called Blizzard

edit: ok, you didnt forget it^^ still i dont get how you can call Bioware the best


Blizzard and Bioware stand out for me as the two best developers by far. I'd say Blizzard is better, but really, it's not that big of a margin:
StarCraft, WarCraft and Diablo vs Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect. Lots of big names on both sides, don't insult BioWare.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
May 06 2011 13:56 GMT
#168
i would never insult bioware. its a great developer. i just disagree with his statement that its the best developer
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
May 06 2011 14:02 GMT
#169
On May 06 2011 22:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
bioware is among the best. look at their titles and their history. they made RPGs what they are today.


Actually no, they made RPGs much better than they are today... i mean, when they laid down the foundations for it with the Infinity games. Nowadays even they dont hit their own quality.
But i dont want to cry over things cried over already by thousands... you really should give the "best" title to a company that makes quality games, and make better and better games over time, and BioWare is definitely not one.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
May 06 2011 14:06 GMT
#170
Bioware doesn't seem that great to me anymore. It seems like they are just recycling the exact same story, characters, and game now with a big emphasis on DLC sales. Used to like them but doubt I'll be buying their stuff day 1 anymore.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
May 06 2011 14:29 GMT
#171
If every piece of DLC Bioware made was like Lair of the Shadow Broker, I would be ok with that, but otherwise it's just shovelware.

And DA2 was just shameless.

I'm expecting ME3 to be really good, though, except it will be the same as any number of RPGs where you travel from quest hub to quest hub solving everybody else's problems.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 06 2011 16:37 GMT
#172
On May 06 2011 22:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 22:42 Enox wrote:
On May 06 2011 22:35 althaz wrote:
It saddens me to see how EA is ruining the best developer around. I thought maybe it would be ok, but Dragon Age 2 and everything I read about Mass Effect 3 makes me wonder why EA even bothered buying Bioware if they were planning on turning them into just another crappy developer. Bioware have never been the kind of dev that Blizzard are, polishing things to an amazing level of sheen. They have always been a company driven by ideas. Implementation hasn't always been perfect but the ideas alone have produced some of my favourite games of all time.

Damn you EA.

"best developer around"?? i think you forget a small company called Blizzard

edit: ok, you didnt forget it^^ still i dont get how you can call Bioware the best


Blizzard and Bioware stand out for me as the two best developers by far. I'd say Blizzard is better, but really, it's not that big of a margin:
StarCraft, WarCraft and Diablo vs Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect. Lots of big names on both sides, don't insult BioWare.

I would also add Kotor and Jade Empire to this list
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
May 06 2011 16:43 GMT
#173
this is fucking sad

comon bioware quit blowing it!

first kotor dies. next DA is shit. dont tell me ME is gonna turn retarded too??
RBKeys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
May 06 2011 16:50 GMT
#174
On May 07 2011 01:43 dekuschrub wrote:
dont tell me ME is gonna turn retarded too??


What do you mean "gonna"? Didn't you play the last one? A "human reaper" that looks like the terminator lawl. And all the changes they made to take away the RPG feel and turn it into an FPS. I love ME, but once the changed it from being engaged in the ME universe to just shooting your way through the story line it was ruined.
Thanks for the break :D
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 17:06:10
May 06 2011 17:03 GMT
#175
On May 06 2011 22:42 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 22:35 althaz wrote:
It saddens me to see how EA is ruining the best developer around. I thought maybe it would be ok, but Dragon Age 2 and everything I read about Mass Effect 3 makes me wonder why EA even bothered buying Bioware if they were planning on turning them into just another crappy developer. Bioware have never been the kind of dev that Blizzard are, polishing things to an amazing level of sheen. They have always been a company driven by ideas. Implementation hasn't always been perfect but the ideas alone have produced some of my favourite games of all time.

Damn you EA.

"best developer around"?? i think you forget a small company called Blizzard

edit: ok, you didnt forget it^^ still i dont get how you can call Bioware the best


Blizzard ~= Valve >> Bioware

Also, I've learned not to knock it till you try it. Remember when the beloved side-scrolling 2D metroid franchise got turned into a crappy first person shooter?
ThatBronyGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States169 Posts
May 06 2011 17:06 GMT
#176
I was so super special awesome sauce excited about Mass Effect 3 coming out and I started reading some posts here and now I'm a sad panda =(. I was hoping that the multiplayer portion of the game would never come about, but I kinda had a feeling that EA would want something to draw more players in to get that "Replayability" aspect.

At this point, I'm hoping that the game will remain the third person over the should viewpoint and not go to first person. I guess anything is fair game to change though seeing how far they went with ME 1--->ME 2.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
May 06 2011 17:20 GMT
#177
BioWare has pretty much done everything in their power to ruin this game. I thought the flop known as DA2 would remedy this, but I guess not. I will 100 percent not buy this game and probably rip it to play for a couple hours, just to ensure how terrible it is.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 06 2011 18:15 GMT
#178
I'm not going to count out ME3 yet, despite the DA2 flop, b/c i'm hoping that DA2 was such shit BECAUSE they were all working on ME3.

However it sounds like it's being dumbed down so much, and made so console friendly, that it can't be anything but shit.

If this game flops, and when SWTOR flops for being a WoW clone, I think it will be the end of "quality" Bioware as we know it.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 06 2011 18:40 GMT
#179
On May 07 2011 03:15 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm not going to count out ME3 yet, despite the DA2 flop, b/c i'm hoping that DA2 was such shit BECAUSE they were all working on ME3.

However it sounds like it's being dumbed down so much, and made so console friendly, that it can't be anything but shit.

If this game flops, and when SWTOR flops for being a WoW clone, I think it will be the end of "quality" Bioware as we know it.



well i dont really count swtor into the normal bioware stuff. but its true, if ME3 fails they dont have much to fall back on.

they killed dragon age more or less, their good old d&d franchises are dead. but isnt ME a trilogy anyways?

anyone knows anything about another project? or will they just make dragon age the "rpg" cod and milk it to hell now?
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NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
May 06 2011 18:44 GMT
#180
While I'm perfectly fine with putting in a lot more action, I can't see how they can sand off any more rpg elements without turning into an action game with amazing dialogue and choices.
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