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valium
Profile Joined June 2012
United States251 Posts
June 27 2012 04:21 GMT
#3381
Extended Cut did not involved cutting the god kid and the terrible 'we must kill you because you will end up killing yourselves' so it was as much a failure as the launch ending. It now just has more flashing lights and fireworks to distract you.
It is not easy being this awesome and modest
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 04:40:17
June 27 2012 04:39 GMT
#3382
I liked the new endings a lot better. A lot less bleak. They should have done it this way the first time around, but I am happy that they did get around to it in the end.

Something that occured to me is+ Show Spoiler +
if you choose to control the Reapers, I think it would have been hard for everyone to just trust the Reapers if they suddenly started acting benevolently, because they are controlled by Shepard. I assume if Shepard controls them then he can use them to explain the situation as Reapers are able to talk. Although if that is the case, then the Normandy Crew would eventually find out Shepard was not actually dead as his consciousness lives on.


I am happy and can now get some closure! Yay!
saltygrapes
Profile Joined April 2010
181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 09:28:53
June 27 2012 09:27 GMT
#3383
Really liked how a focus of Bioware was to provide additional time with LI's. Good choice from them, without going too far.

I picked Destroy first in the EC, and compared to the other endings, loved how the + Show Spoiler +
LI hesitates to puts Shepard's name on the memorial, refusing to believe he/she is dead. That's an awesome touch, and in fact, I didn't even notice that it was different from the other endings and supposed to be that way until I compared it to the other endings where they actually stuck his name on the wall. I like how that little added touch combined with Shepard's breath at the end heavily implies that Shepard will soon be reunited with his crew but still lets you come to your own conclusions.


Also, if anything, the EC should kill any Mass Effect 4 rumors, at least for the time being. How could they ever bring everything back together after taking a lot of effort to branch all the endings off from each other? I guess they could make a game without Shepard, but the galaxy is left in a very different state in each game. And I'm not a huge fan of playing a game titled "Mass Effect 4" and not playing as Shepard... it'd be like playing Halo 4 but not as Master Chief, only way weirder.

Really wondering what Bioware's future plans are with the franchise, but for some reason deep down I still expect them to try to do the unthinkable and make a ME4 just because it'd be another cash cow for them, even after ME3's ending flopped.
sxpointz!
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
June 27 2012 09:53 GMT
#3384
Well, there was really no way for them to salvage the ending without doing the whole thing over. I don't know who they did this EC thing for but they must have known it wouldn't have satisfied most people since the ending's fundamental flaws are still there.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 27 2012 10:35 GMT
#3385
So I watched the endings.. eh.. good job I guess. Not terrible... kind of wish they would've done this in the first place and avoided this whole shitstorm.

A great big MEH.
Retvrn to Forvms
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22162 Posts
June 27 2012 11:12 GMT
#3386
Funny how a lot of people are now ok with the ending when the same problems are still there.

In the last 2 seconds of the game the starchild suddenly comes out and holds a 5min talk explaining the purpose behind 3 games with some machine to kill organics to stop them dying to machine BS.

The extra closure on your squadmates is nice, the fact that the mass relays dont explode killing all life in the universe getting rettconned is nice tho something they should have thought of in the first place.

But that doesnt change the underlying problem of the starchild.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:15:29
June 27 2012 12:14 GMT
#3387
On June 27 2012 18:27 saltygrapes wrote:
Also, if anything, the EC should kill any Mass Effect 4 rumors, at least for the time being. How could they ever bring everything back together after taking a lot of effort to branch all the endings off from each other? I guess they could make a game without Shepard, but the galaxy is left in a very different state in each game. And I'm not a huge fan of playing a game titled "Mass Effect 4" and not playing as Shepard... it'd be like playing Halo 4 but not as Master Chief, only way weirder.


I wanted Reapers to simply straight up win at the end (no choice allowed, none of that final scene at the citadel) for a similar reason.

Firstly, it's the only outcome that is realistic and makes sense in the context of the lore/story/universe/that kind of stuff. Mass Effect was from the very beginning very Lovecraftian in its story telling when it comes to communicating the feeling of despair, hopelessness and inevitability (maybe not in 1, but definitely from 2 onward). Then they chickened out during the last 5 minutes of the game (even more so in the EC) and instead of letting all the organic civilizations fall to round up the story properly and deliver a conclusion that makes sense, they allowed the player to pick some cheap, cop-out victory endings.

Secondly, it's the only outcome that can provide the platform for new Mass Effect series of games (which would be set in the next Cycle or possibly during the last stages of resistance).

The thing is, they were going to end the Shepard story anyway. Which I agree with, because milking the current lineup of characters and setting more would eventually turn really ugly, so it's good that they retired them on kind of a high note. owever, with the ending branching out into 3 (now 4) fundamentally different directions, they've basically killed any chance of an actual sequel ever. Since I doubt EA and Bioware are just going to abandon the IP, I can't help but feeling that they've narrowed down the options they have far too much for the following games to have an exciting large-scale plot.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 27 2012 12:58 GMT
#3388
The 4th ending felt like Shepard was being a A-Hole, that is until I saw the stuff with Liara's time capsule for the future inhabitants of the universe. I got a kick out of the fact that the oldman and son was replaced by a oldwoman who sounded like Liara, and a young girl. It was messed up thinking about what everyone during the dog fight must have been thinking when the crucible didn't fire, as well as what the entire galaxy was doing/thinking when the Reapers kept on attacking.

Quarians: We finally got our homeworld back, and the Geth are helping us adapt, life is good.
*moments later hundreds of Reapers pour through the Mass Relay.*
Reapers: Haha, all your planets are belong to us. Make your time.
Quarians: ****!!!!!

Krogans: Yeah we showed that Reaper, nobody can stop the Krogans.
Reapers: ... You beat a small land based Reaper, with a giant worm. My name is Harbinger and I'm bigger than some small islands.
Krogans: Run like a leopard everyone, run like a Leopard!!!

Turian Councilor: Do not panic people, this Reaper threat is not real, it's just Shepard trying to hunt for attention and be special.
Reapers: This guy really is a dip****.
Turian C: We don't believe in you, you big dumb robo squid.
Reapers: Well I believe in me, so **** off! eath Rays*

Shepard: So.... uh, Catalyst Kid.. I've been rethinking.
CK: Nope, you had your chance.
Shepard: Oh come on, I was just foolin around, you know messing wit'cha.
CK: Nope, I tried to give you a way out. Gave you 3 choices, the 2nd one would have even made you kind of immortal.
Shepard: Really?
CK: Yup, you would have had your image and thought pattern mapped to the next Catalyst.
Shepard: So everyone would have seen my face if they've ever made it to here?
CK: Yup, but not just your face, that awesome sexy ass and nice tata's too..
Shepard: O_o.. You little pervert you were spying on me and Garrus?! I regret nothing now.
CK: I'm looking at the replay in my mind right now. I mean why else do you think we wanted you to submit to us so badly? Mmm Mmph, DAT'ASS!
Goetzinho ftw
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany115 Posts
June 27 2012 13:04 GMT
#3389
Finnally deinstalled all of Mass Effect and will never ever touch it again. What a waste of time.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 27 2012 13:08 GMT
#3390
On June 27 2012 22:04 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Finnally deinstalled all of Mass Effect and will never ever touch it again. What a waste of time.




aww,
myBattleship
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)41 Posts
June 27 2012 13:53 GMT
#3391
On June 27 2012 22:04 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Finnally deinstalled all of Mass Effect and will never ever touch it again. What a waste of time.


a waste of time? lol
because the ending didn't turn out the way you wanted it to be now you think all the great moments before the end are a waste of time?
Freedom is the most contageous virus known to men.
myBattleship
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)41 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 14:10:23
June 27 2012 14:10 GMT
#3392
I've replayed all the endings from my last save and honestly the only 2 I like is the refusal and the kill all synthetics ending. I just don't see how synthesis can work and how controlling the reapers is O.K at all. And the biggest reason for those 2 ending not working out for me is
+ Show Spoiler +
how the reapers are now helping everyone to rebuild... just doesn't seem right. We are talking about giant robots that were trying to kill all the advanced civilisations and now they are all buddies, it just doesn't work that way. And it's not just the idea itself that everyone would now trust the reapers, it's that the direction taken here goes nowhere. The reapers now are good guys, all synthetics understand organics and understand their motivation and reasoning, all the organics are now walking matrix displays with great knowledge and power. There is no precedent here, there are no clues that lead to any of this possible. The reapers have tried the solution before (as the little kid tells u) is the only relevant piece of information but when you ask the kid what went wrong he just flat out says: "you wouldn't understand". Nothing up to this point leads us to believe that there is a solution to the reaper problem. I actually though all along that Shepard is going to die in vain, accomplishing nothing, but the blue/green endings seem to be too disney like, old and uninteresting. They're more of a cop-out than an ending. Just my opinion, if people enjoyed it, that's great.


Freedom is the most contageous virus known to men.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 27 2012 17:45 GMT
#3393
I loved the game, but the only endings that worked for me was Refusual and destory.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
June 27 2012 20:16 GMT
#3394
On June 27 2012 22:53 myBattleship wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 22:04 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Finnally deinstalled all of Mass Effect and will never ever touch it again. What a waste of time.


a waste of time? lol
because the ending didn't turn out the way you wanted it to be now you think all the great moments before the end are a waste of time?


A good dinner is easily forgotten when the chef serves you turd for dessert.

Genophage arc does not excuse an entire game disregarding the previous two and inserting its own reality. London arc was the most abysmal endgame design i have seen in recent years. Even when compared to its predecessors it is deplorable. I am appalled good sir. That you willingly embrace this game just because it has 10 minutes of emotional impact. You know were i can get emotional impact from? I can get it from a book, a play on the theater. The opera. From youtube.

180 USD + DLC + time spent playing and this is the ending i deserve? Well then Bioware and EA will never get my money ever again.
"Mudkip"
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 22:52:46
June 27 2012 22:52 GMT
#3395
So, regarding the extended cut + Show Spoiler +
how in the hell do thoese ships get back to their homeworlds? Or did I get I wrong and those are just differen ones?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 27 2012 22:56 GMT
#3396
On June 28 2012 02:45 HeeroFX wrote:
I loved the game, but the only endings that worked for me was Refusual and destory.

Yeah, I tend to agree. The control and synthesis endings provide too much finality to the universe and just don't really seem to fit.
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
June 27 2012 23:25 GMT
#3397
I did the control ending with my renegade femshep and I must say that Jennifer Hale will make a pretty good Kerrigan voice
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 27 2012 23:33 GMT
#3398
Jen Hale is so good at voice acting
really puts male shep to shame often times.

moo...for DRG
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
June 28 2012 00:04 GMT
#3399
On June 27 2012 22:53 myBattleship wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 22:04 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Finnally deinstalled all of Mass Effect and will never ever touch it again. What a waste of time.


a waste of time? lol
because the ending didn't turn out the way you wanted it to be now you think all the great moments before the end are a waste of time?


I'm not gona lie... It's kind of hard to go back and play the first 2 games when the series ends in a measly 3(4) different ways that are only affected by your choice in the final game at the final moments of the game. That is what's depressing about the ending. Not the lack of closure, not the somewhat silly lore with the starchild and all, and not the fact that Bioware royally screwed up the release ending (They must have known the ending wasn't complete, theres no way they did that on purpose).
It really makes playing the series over again an absolute bore.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
June 28 2012 00:22 GMT
#3400
There's most likely not going to be a Mass Effect 4, Bioware is going to move on. I'm expecting a sequel for Baldur's Gate 2 before Mass Effect 4 XD

To be honest, I never found anything wrong with the original ending, it was the way it HAD to end.

+ Show Spoiler +
Shepard had to die. It didn't matter if there was 30 different endings, Shepard had to die, the game wouldn't have had the same impact if Shepard lived and paired up with the character you dated in-game


Just got the EC, but waiting to either play from a ME2 save or to start again from the beginning with my level 50 infiltrator...
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
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