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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
June 26 2012 17:33 GMT
#3341
Endings are still absolute dung. Oh well, at least they added an option to refuse the options presented by the totally idiotic last scene addition of a character. Sigh.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 26 2012 18:10 GMT
#3342
is bioware even trying anymore?
starleague forever
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
June 26 2012 18:20 GMT
#3343
On June 27 2012 03:10 a176 wrote:
is bioware even trying anymore?


I didn't think there was anything wrong with giving out free stuff?
Write your own song!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 18:21:49
June 26 2012 18:20 GMT
#3344
The Refusal ending should actually have been the (only possible) ending in the first place. It's somehow most fitting to the entire series.
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 19:19:02
June 26 2012 19:18 GMT
#3345
But why this DLC take so much space?
It's like 20% of entire game.

Hope it has another secrect ending
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
June 26 2012 19:28 GMT
#3346
On June 27 2012 03:20 Talin wrote:
The Refusal ending should actually have been the (only possible) ending in the first place. It's somehow most fitting to the entire series.

I like the idea behind it, but the execution was terrible. It only took like 2minutes. I feel like it was a big fuck you from bioware to people who hated the other 3 endings.
I hate all this singing
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 26 2012 19:30 GMT
#3347
I don't know if I want to DL this or not.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 19:53:27
June 26 2012 19:53 GMT
#3348
It's as if they wrote down all the complaints, all the criticism, all the mistakes

and then just threw it in the trash and went "DURRRR THE NORMANDY CAST SURVIVES NOW R U GUYZ HAPPY"
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 20:53:54
June 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#3349
I just played through and the contet added is actually pretty neat. It should've been more though and to be honest this DLC shouldn't have been necessary in the first place .
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 20:14:02
June 26 2012 20:13 GMT
#3350
I was going to write a few paragraphs of review, but after seeing most of the posts since DLC release, it's pointless.

People that were mad about the ending are still going to be mad apparently.

And people that were not ecstatic but content (like myself) will enjoy the little things and "wrap up" it includes.

No it's not much, but it certainly filled in a few holes. It's basically what the ending should have included all along, and I don't think they've ever billed it as any more than that.

I'm way more confused about why this DLC was 1.8GB than I ever will be about this ending lol
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 26 2012 20:25 GMT
#3351
Well, that's that then. Bye Bioware.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 20:31:57
June 26 2012 20:26 GMT
#3352
Just watched the destroy ending. It works. It provides sufficient closure to the series and explains what happens to everyone. If you don't like + Show Spoiler +
star kid
, then the ending isn't really going to fix the underlying problems.

The new scene + Show Spoiler +
showing the escape of the crew
also fixes the most glaring and ugly plot hole.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 26 2012 20:39 GMT
#3353
On June 27 2012 05:26 xDaunt wrote:
Just watched the destroy ending. It works. It provides sufficient closure to the series and explains what happens to everyone. If you don't like + Show Spoiler +
star kid
, then the ending isn't really going to fix the underlying problems.

The new scene + Show Spoiler +
showing the escape of the crew
also fixes the most glaring and ugly plot hole.

+ Show Spoiler +
The scene with escape dont make any sense tho, why is harbinger just leaving the normandy alone lol
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 21:04:15
June 26 2012 20:59 GMT
#3354
I hated the original ending just because I had no idea what had happened to everyone and I had so many unanswered questions. Not 'I want more' unanswered questions but 'what the hell happened to the people I spent 3 games with, are they alive, dead? What about galactic civilisation, any clues on whether I actually saved it or not? Did I win?' unanswered questions. I never wanted to play through 3 again because it was just so vague. The choices were meaningless because we could only speculate about their consequences.

These extended cuts don't address a whole bunch of issues (like the whole sequence from Shepard getting hit by Harbinger to the Starchild) but god damn it I get some fucking CLOSURE. DELICIOUS CLOSURE. It's all I wanted. I know what happened to my allies, I know that the fleet on earth didn't tear itself apart on a barren planet, I get to see the races I helped getting back on their feet and rebuilding.

I like it a lot, basically. People who still hate it...why? What were you expecting?

EDIT: I hate to harp on, but I genuinely don't get why people would still hate it. I thought we all despised the original ending just because it didn't tell you shit?
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 26 2012 21:19 GMT
#3355
no it's because 80~ hours of gameplay got summed up into "red/green/blue, pick your favorite color" that had nothing to do with the experience up to that point.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
June 26 2012 21:27 GMT
#3356
On June 27 2012 05:59 The KY wrote:
I hated the original ending just because I had no idea what had happened to everyone and I had so many unanswered questions. Not 'I want more' unanswered questions but 'what the hell happened to the people I spent 3 games with, are they alive, dead? What about galactic civilisation, any clues on whether I actually saved it or not? Did I win?' unanswered questions. I never wanted to play through 3 again because it was just so vague. The choices were meaningless because we could only speculate about their consequences.

These extended cuts don't address a whole bunch of issues (like the whole sequence from Shepard getting hit by Harbinger to the Starchild) but god damn it I get some fucking CLOSURE. DELICIOUS CLOSURE. It's all I wanted. I know what happened to my allies, I know that the fleet on earth didn't tear itself apart on a barren planet, I get to see the races I helped getting back on their feet and rebuilding.

I like it a lot, basically. People who still hate it...why? What were you expecting?

EDIT: I hate to harp on, but I genuinely don't get why people would still hate it. I thought we all despised the original ending just because it didn't tell you shit?

People who still hate it mostly are people who hate the ending because of the plot holes and the logic. Having added the closures are still nice though.
I hate all this singing
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 26 2012 21:43 GMT
#3357
On June 27 2012 05:59 The KY wrote:
I hated the original ending just because I had no idea what had happened to everyone and I had so many unanswered questions. Not 'I want more' unanswered questions but 'what the hell happened to the people I spent 3 games with, are they alive, dead? What about galactic civilisation, any clues on whether I actually saved it or not? Did I win?' unanswered questions. I never wanted to play through 3 again because it was just so vague. The choices were meaningless because we could only speculate about their consequences.

These extended cuts don't address a whole bunch of issues (like the whole sequence from Shepard getting hit by Harbinger to the Starchild) but god damn it I get some fucking CLOSURE. DELICIOUS CLOSURE. It's all I wanted. I know what happened to my allies, I know that the fleet on earth didn't tear itself apart on a barren planet, I get to see the races I helped getting back on their feet and rebuilding.

I like it a lot, basically. People who still hate it...why? What were you expecting?

EDIT: I hate to harp on, but I genuinely don't get why people would still hate it. I thought we all despised the original ending just because it didn't tell you shit?

As I said myself, some people were predetermined to dislike it simply because of their feelings about the original ending and remaining overly critical. It was refreshing to read a post like yours, good to know there's folks out there who strongly disliked the original ending but did embrace the DLC.

On a slightly off-topic (re: DLC) and awesome note, I stumbled on this while browsing the Bioware forums today waiting for DLC launch:
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/8779677/1
Fan-made "remix" style album of some big tracks from the series. It's called Metal Effect, and that's the emphasis I suppose, but it's surprisingly diverse and incredibly well made. Greatly exceeded any expectations I had; so happy I was lucky enough to bump into that thread in the sea of Locks lol.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 22:10:02
June 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#3358
On June 27 2012 03:20 Talin wrote:
The Refusal ending should actually have been the (only possible) ending in the first place. It's somehow most fitting to the entire series.

I happily have picked the refusal ending as my ME final ending. We fight the good fight and come up short. I can respect that at least.


EDIT: also when that kid says "so be it!" in the refusal option is that harbingers voice?
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
June 26 2012 22:17 GMT
#3359
On June 27 2012 06:27 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 05:59 The KY wrote:
I hated the original ending just because I had no idea what had happened to everyone and I had so many unanswered questions. Not 'I want more' unanswered questions but 'what the hell happened to the people I spent 3 games with, are they alive, dead? What about galactic civilisation, any clues on whether I actually saved it or not? Did I win?' unanswered questions. I never wanted to play through 3 again because it was just so vague. The choices were meaningless because we could only speculate about their consequences.

These extended cuts don't address a whole bunch of issues (like the whole sequence from Shepard getting hit by Harbinger to the Starchild) but god damn it I get some fucking CLOSURE. DELICIOUS CLOSURE. It's all I wanted. I know what happened to my allies, I know that the fleet on earth didn't tear itself apart on a barren planet, I get to see the races I helped getting back on their feet and rebuilding.

I like it a lot, basically. People who still hate it...why? What were you expecting?

EDIT: I hate to harp on, but I genuinely don't get why people would still hate it. I thought we all despised the original ending just because it didn't tell you shit?

People who still hate it mostly are people who hate the ending because of the plot holes and the logic. Having added the closures are still nice though.


I think most people hated it because you have 3(4) choices that throw away everything else you've done previously in the series. But I guess the Bioware storytelling illusion just didn't work in this game.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
June 26 2012 22:56 GMT
#3360
Just watched the endings from Youtube. Still not mind-blowing, but at least now it provides some closure and explains (at least most of) the issues I've had with the original endings. I just wanted so much to see what those 3 picks meant, and EC for the most provided that, even though I still don't get Synthesis one.

The real issue with ME3 endings were about the Reapers themselves. BW made Reapers so ridiculously powerful that conventional technology wasn't useful against them, neither weaponry or computers. So if they couldn't be defeated through already known means...there had to be a deus ex machina; and we got the Crucible. That is for me, the worst part about the endings. Because BW made them so ridiculously OP, there had to be something external and somehow related to the Reapers (because regular tech is not useful against them) that would have a role in how the event plays out.

Here is my take on what I'd do with the endings:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Star Child would be the collective knowledge of all the previous civilizations packed into one, super intelligent and smart AI. The plan with the Crucible would be to eventually create a strong enough AI to actually stop Reapers by controlling them or ordering them away. Before the extinction the civs would make sure the data is safe and accessible when the time comes. With each wipeout, the processing power of the AI would increase but unless a conscious being interacted with one of the beacons, it wouldn't reach self-awareness (that's where Shep would come in with ME1)


I think this would be pretty interesting imo.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
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