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OverKiLL.
Profile Joined October 2010
United States199 Posts
November 07 2010 23:58 GMT
#21
do you think blizzard will have wc3 in blizzco again next year?
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
November 08 2010 00:17 GMT
#22
WC3 has lost a lot of steam fo rme years ago, i honestly thing WC3 has been declining a long time and i know even more of the top players from wc3 want to switch over to SC2 but im sure WC3 will still have a community, just wont be as big. Hell im sure wc2 still has a community.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
November 08 2010 00:54 GMT
#23
Community sites stopped contributing to wc3 once sc2 came out, and administrators of wc3 leagues saw that it was useless to run a wc3 league as any exposure you may have gotten before has now evaporated by the lack of care by community sites. Sure there are still some competitions, WCO, although mentioned in this thread, is most certainly not dead, however the three focal admins, Worpex, Baronfel and myself have stopped contributing any time there. WC3NC is still a very competitive international league and is still waiting on the finals between Remind and TH000 which will be coming up rather soon. WGL (wgseries.com) is still on going, however bad clan management has led to a delay in the playoffs. Teams and players, and everyone just stopped caring about wc3 once sc2 came out, and with good reason, the talent pool was stagnant, the ladder was full of hackers, and game play, aside from a few variations had not changed besides execution of strategy for years.

There is no point in playing when there is an easier game, sc2, with more competition, better support and more prizes, as well as a demand on the computer spec side which will bring in more sponsors. The game isnt dead, no, but the gap between the professionals and amateurs is forever broken.
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twalf
Profile Joined October 2010
United States12 Posts
November 08 2010 01:20 GMT
#24
he was asking about warcraft III not warncraft 3
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 08 2010 02:03 GMT
#25
War3 is a fun game, even just to take a few games back to. I challenge all those who hate it solely on it's reputation to open your mind and give it a whirl. (Chances are, you're not good enough to feel the Orc imbalance anyway)
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pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
November 08 2010 02:15 GMT
#26
I think Blizzard purposely stopped patching it and thus let the game die. Blademaster was just imbalanced. Should have made wind walk not glide through units, would have fixed it.

Oh well, they let it die, probably to divert attention to their newer games.

Wc3 was one of the best, spectator wise, anyone who plays would probably agree.

Seems to be a Blizzard policy to stop patching games and leave them imbalanced to divert attention to their newer titles... I suppose Kespa is to thank for theorizing new maps to lessen the imbalance.

Just think they should keep patching them, especially for balance, sad.
Yukidasu
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Australia125 Posts
November 08 2010 03:44 GMT
#27
It is kind of sad to see it lose popularity so quickly, it will probably be a long time until another warcraft game is made given how world of warcraft is driving the warcraft franchise, and probably will be for the forseeable future.
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jHERO
Profile Joined August 2010
China167 Posts
November 08 2010 04:51 GMT
#28
def was a great game so intense on the micro, each unit had unique characteristics and they will always be in my memory... T_T
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
November 08 2010 05:24 GMT
#29
Ever since sc2 beta came out, alot of the top wc3 players have changed to sc2, as if they were waiting for it to happen. Like they just suddenly changed ASAP.
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 05:32:10
November 08 2010 05:31 GMT
#30
On November 08 2010 11:15 pioneer8 wrote:
I think Blizzard purposely stopped patching it and thus let the game die. Blademaster was just imbalanced. Should have made wind walk not glide through units, would have fixed it.

Oh well, they let it die, probably to divert attention to their newer games.

Wc3 was one of the best, spectator wise, anyone who plays would probably agree.

Seems to be a Blizzard policy to stop patching games and leave them imbalanced to divert attention to their newer titles... I suppose Kespa is to thank for theorizing new maps to lessen the imbalance.

Just think they should keep patching them, especially for balance, sad.

To be honest if a game needs to be patched for balance after all these years of being released is a tell tale sign of its competitive future.

Failure to balance a game after years shows a underlying failure in the game itself I think :/ Thus is why many jumped ship as soon as SC2 was available.
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OverKiLL.
Profile Joined October 2010
United States199 Posts
November 08 2010 21:49 GMT
#31
On November 08 2010 11:15 pioneer8 wrote:
I think Blizzard purposely stopped patching it and thus let the game die. Blademaster was just imbalanced. Should have made wind walk not glide through units, would have fixed it.

Oh well, they let it die, probably to divert attention to their newer games.

Wc3 was one of the best, spectator wise, anyone who plays would probably agree.

Seems to be a Blizzard policy to stop patching games and leave them imbalanced to divert attention to their newer titles... I suppose Kespa is to thank for theorizing new maps to lessen the imbalance.

Just think they should keep patching them, especially for balance, sad.


i think you're right. thats one thing i hate baout blizzard i dont think they care about their fans all they want is to make money. i'm noticing little things theyr'edoing in sc2 that just represent poor customer service
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
November 08 2010 22:29 GMT
#32
On November 08 2010 11:15 pioneer8 wrote:
I think Blizzard purposely stopped patching it and thus let the game die. Blademaster was just imbalanced. Should have made wind walk not glide through units, would have fixed it.

Oh well, they let it die, probably to divert attention to their newer games.

Wc3 was one of the best, spectator wise, anyone who plays would probably agree.

Seems to be a Blizzard policy to stop patching games and leave them imbalanced to divert attention to their newer titles... I suppose Kespa is to thank for theorizing new maps to lessen the imbalance.

Just think they should keep patching them, especially for balance, sad.

Once I got into sc:bw and pro gaming in general, I always saw wc3 games and tournaments, but couldn't follow. Unlike sc, watching wc3 when you didn't know exactly what the players were doing and why they were doing it seemed really difficult. During sc games I could still know when something big happened, or usually which player had the advantage. I couldn't do this in wc3.

Part of this could have been the casters. Gom with Tasteless and SuperDanielMan was extremely entertaining, even if you were new.
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legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
November 08 2010 22:37 GMT
#33
WC3 was one of my favorite games and it was my first real RTS. I still go back and play the game every now and then but at this stage Blizzard, and many others, have moved on. With SC2 out and thriving, and Diablo 3 in development, there's not a lot of room left for an old game like WC3. There's a chance that they could continue the series with another Warcraft RTS later down the road, but not for a long time.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 08 2010 22:41 GMT
#34
That's kind of the point of windwalk, isn't it? Temporarily lower collision size to 0 while invisible?

It'll still be around for years as long as there's custom maps.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
November 08 2010 22:51 GMT
#35
On November 09 2010 07:29 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 11:15 pioneer8 wrote:
I think Blizzard purposely stopped patching it and thus let the game die. Blademaster was just imbalanced. Should have made wind walk not glide through units, would have fixed it.

Oh well, they let it die, probably to divert attention to their newer games.

Wc3 was one of the best, spectator wise, anyone who plays would probably agree.

Seems to be a Blizzard policy to stop patching games and leave them imbalanced to divert attention to their newer titles... I suppose Kespa is to thank for theorizing new maps to lessen the imbalance.

Just think they should keep patching them, especially for balance, sad.

Once I got into sc:bw and pro gaming in general, I always saw wc3 games and tournaments, but couldn't follow. Unlike sc, watching wc3 when you didn't know exactly what the players were doing and why they were doing it seemed really difficult. During sc games I could still know when something big happened, or usually which player had the advantage. I couldn't do this in wc3.

Part of this could have been the casters. Gom with Tasteless and SuperDanielMan was extremely entertaining, even if you were new.


You really never watched War3 casted have you? I'll take Tod/Rotterdam over Tasteless/SDM any day.
Get it by your hands...
OverKiLL.
Profile Joined October 2010
United States199 Posts
November 09 2010 02:15 GMT
#36
I guess I wasn't around when Tod/Rotter were casting all i know is tod was known as an asshole haha

and he had a big nose o.o

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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
November 09 2010 02:48 GMT
#37
Nah, ToD isn't an asshole, he's a whiner (justified for sure) though. You hear it in some of his casts where he just spends the next 10 mins complaining about the Blademaster.
Get it by your hands...
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
November 09 2010 03:18 GMT
#38
On November 09 2010 11:48 Judicator wrote:
Nah, ToD isn't an asshole, he's a whiner (justified for sure) though. You hear it in some of his casts where he just spends the next 10 mins complaining about the Blademaster.


i understand tod's sentiment. wc3 balancing was notoriously ignorant of the complaints of the community. blademaster contributed greatly to the demise of wc3 more than the release of sc2.
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devilshootsdevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada122 Posts
November 09 2010 03:21 GMT
#39
WC3 veteran here, I guess. Played since beta and all that jazz. Of course it is dead and there's no "future". Competitive scene is gone, balance has never really been that great with one race dominating the other 3 for quite some time at different points in time (Undead... always the underdog), custom map behemoth aka DOTA currently has 2 alternatives, and 2 more coming from Blizzard and Valve, so I'd imagine that scene is pretty much dead as well. Let's not even talk about map hackers. Yeah it's R.I.P. pretty much. Oh how I miss those antiquated b.net features in wc3 while looking at this improved version 2.0...
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hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
November 09 2010 03:27 GMT
#40
On November 07 2010 23:00 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 22:45 notwelldone wrote:
It's dead. So is SC:BW. It'll never be the same.

Time to move on.

People don't stop walking just because of cars - Especially not with these boots.


But people with cars don't usually walk if they can just use their car.

And, while I love watching pro BW, I really think people are just raising false hopes. BW is done, not because there's no interest, but because Blizzard is shutting it all down. They've been having these negotiations for months, and still haven't come up with an agreement. Now that the proleague is running anyway, Blizzard is for sure going to say no.

That's just the truth.
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