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theinvisiblePLER
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States110 Posts
November 21 2010 06:52 GMT
#961
if anyone is 2+ prestige yet, then please leave the basement, it'd good for you.
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
November 21 2010 06:56 GMT
#962
2 is nothing, there are people who are legit prestige 7+ atm
theinvisiblePLER
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States110 Posts
November 21 2010 07:00 GMT
#963
On November 21 2010 15:56 zbedlam wrote:
2 is nothing, there are people who are legit prestige 7+ atm

yeah im pretty concerned with the welfare of those people. i played with a 14 prestige.. and just wow... the dude went 32-1 or something crazy like that
CoffeeJelly
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada53 Posts
November 21 2010 07:07 GMT
#964
If you want to level up fast, play on nuketown 24/7 servers.

Pick killstreaks with area effect damage, camp, watch them digits go up like mad.
It's pretty disgusting once you hit gunship or chopper gunner on nuketown but those take more kills.
Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
November 21 2010 11:48 GMT
#965
Im 2nd prestige in under 2 days played almost 3rd all it takes is skill and play nothing but HQ you get over 13k when u win and do your objective not just camp kills but actually take HQ off with a 2.63 k/d :D

Best CoD game ever. ive played all cod from 2 to now.
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 23:32:57
November 21 2010 23:32 GMT
#966
New top weapons
1) AK74u Rapid Fire
2) Silenced Spas12
3) FAMAS Extended mags
4) G11
5) L96 (the scope)

+ Show Spoiler [why AK74u is OP] +

Complete with mandatory call of duty smack talk / bm
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Why silenced Spas12 is hilarious] +

Complete with mandatory call of duty smack talk / bm
[image loading]


I've concluded that the Famas blows all of the other rifles out of the water thanks to it's accuracy and fire rate. I've tried the FAL and found that it's slow fire rate and recoil make it really hard to use effectively. None of the SMGs seem ot even compete with the AK74u, especially with rapid fire; and the range on the silenced spas12 is pretty ridiculous and if I get behind the team they're pretty much all going to die.

Also, spy plane > black bird > attack chopper is hilarious. Calling 4-5 black birds and 2-3 attack choppers in a single round makes for a pretty disappointed opposing team.

As far as the latest patch is concerned I didn't notice much of a performance increase but I haven't been hitching at all, so the game is playable on almost all of the maps ;D
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
IamTheWhiteGuy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
November 22 2010 00:16 GMT
#967
On November 22 2010 08:32 prodiG wrote:
New top weapons
1) AK74u Rapid Fire
2) Silenced Spas12
3) FAMAS Extended mags
4) G11
5) L96 (the scope)

+ Show Spoiler [why AK74u is OP] +

Complete with mandatory call of duty smack talk / bm
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Why silenced Spas12 is hilarious] +

Complete with mandatory call of duty smack talk / bm
[image loading]


I've concluded that the Famas blows all of the other rifles out of the water thanks to it's accuracy and fire rate. I've tried the FAL and found that it's slow fire rate and recoil make it really hard to use effectively. None of the SMGs seem ot even compete with the AK74u, especially with rapid fire; and the range on the silenced spas12 is pretty ridiculous and if I get behind the team they're pretty much all going to die.

Also, spy plane > black bird > attack chopper is hilarious. Calling 4-5 black birds and 2-3 attack choppers in a single round makes for a pretty disappointed opposing team.

As far as the latest patch is concerned I didn't notice much of a performance increase but I haven't been hitching at all, so the game is playable on almost all of the maps ;D


By top weapons, you mean your favorites, right?

Because in my opinion the silenced SPAS belongs just above the Stakeout and Olympia in the weapon tiering and just below the HS410, which would place it somewhere around dead last.


Anyways, yeah, the G11 owns, and yeah, the AK74u is too good.


With that said, the only really glaring balance issue I still find myself faced with is how easy RC-XDs are to get relative to how effective they are.
The core gamer is the bastard middle child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
November 22 2010 00:21 GMT
#968
On November 22 2010 09:16 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 08:32 prodiG wrote:
New top weapons
1) AK74u Rapid Fire
2) Silenced Spas12
3) FAMAS Extended mags
4) G11
5) L96 (the scope)

+ Show Spoiler [why AK74u is OP] +

Complete with mandatory call of duty smack talk / bm
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Why silenced Spas12 is hilarious] +

Complete with mandatory call of duty smack talk / bm
[image loading]


I've concluded that the Famas blows all of the other rifles out of the water thanks to it's accuracy and fire rate. I've tried the FAL and found that it's slow fire rate and recoil make it really hard to use effectively. None of the SMGs seem ot even compete with the AK74u, especially with rapid fire; and the range on the silenced spas12 is pretty ridiculous and if I get behind the team they're pretty much all going to die.

Also, spy plane > black bird > attack chopper is hilarious. Calling 4-5 black birds and 2-3 attack choppers in a single round makes for a pretty disappointed opposing team.

As far as the latest patch is concerned I didn't notice much of a performance increase but I haven't been hitching at all, so the game is playable on almost all of the maps ;D


By top weapons, you mean your favorites, right?

Because in my opinion the silenced SPAS belongs just above the Stakeout and Olympia in the weapon tiering and just below the HS410, which would place it somewhere around dead last.


Anyways, yeah, the G11 owns, and yeah, the AK74u is too good.


With that said, the only really glaring balance issue I still find myself faced with is how easy RC-XDs are to get relative to how effective they are.


They are quite strong, but you can hear them from a mile away and start looking for them. I think they're at a pretty good spot in the killstreak list
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
November 22 2010 00:21 GMT
#969
Hmm, everybody says that the ak74u is really good, why is it that good? I played with it, and it was very good I admit, but the FAMAS is better IMO.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 00:49:39
November 22 2010 00:43 GMT
#970
M14 + Grip is pretty crazy, too. I tried the M14 without it when I first unlocked it (trying all the guns phase and all that) and wasn't impressed. With the Grip the recoil becomes very manageable and dropping guys in a couple shots isn't that hard. Almost got a quad spray with it on Havana but I forgot to drop shot. The automatics seem to have 40% of their bullets whiff and often fail me even in double spray situations. Another sweet part about the M14 is the 1.5 multiplier on the Head/Neck (most non snipers are 1.4 to the Head only). It does 50 damage at close range for a two shot kill anywhere. At long range it does 40. If one of those hits the head/neck that makes it 60. 60 + another shot anywhere else (40) = two shot kill at range. Also easy to pick off dudes in the distance without burning through a clip and a half.

AK74u has a slightly faster ADS (0.05 faster, I think, non SoH Pro) and has a tighter hip fire. Rapid Fire is just icing on the cake. I also find the Famas' slight upper diagonal recoil annoying at times. AK74u has equal recoil in all directions but down (obvious reasons), which makes it a bit easier to stay on target when firing more than a few bullets.

Recoil is really a preference, though. Some like the predictable recoil as they can manage it easier and others like slightly more random but centered recoil.

Silenced Spas and the Stakeout are decent. When using the Stakeout you really want to ADS with it (tighter spread than hip firing). I played a FFA on Villa with a 3-5-7 setup and went like, 20-6. Played the next game with the M14 on Jungle and got 30-7 or so. Lol at FFA players, so terrible.

I'm still trying to decide on the Spas if I like Steady Aim or Sleight of Hand + ADS for it, as non Steady Aim hip fire spread is 5-8 whereas ADS is a flat 5.5 (and Steady Aim shrinks the Hip Fire to 65% of the original size). Suppose it'd help to understand Den Kirson's chart more. If the spread of 5 is standing still and while moving it's 8 (which seems likely) then the decision becomes a lot easier. Adding in the fast reload for Sleight of Hand (the biggest annoyance is the reload time when using the Spas, for me) and it becomes hard to decide. Either way, the silencer makes it really deadly and I've gotten several good games out of the Spas + Silencer + Steady Aim combo.


Also, trying to Snipe makes me want to punch a baby, especially when Launch comes up repeatedly when I have the 5 sniper rifle kills without dying contract and the two longshots contract. At least Crisis came up in HQ afterwards.
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
November 22 2010 00:51 GMT
#971
On November 22 2010 09:21 Wesso wrote:
Hmm, everybody says that the ak74u is really good, why is it that good? I played with it, and it was very good I admit, but the FAMAS is better IMO.


probably in combination with scavenger and fast reload? tried it a few times and ran out of ammo constantly because 1 spray and u need to reload -.-
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
November 22 2010 01:47 GMT
#972
On November 22 2010 09:51 Bloodash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 09:21 Wesso wrote:
Hmm, everybody says that the ak74u is really good, why is it that good? I played with it, and it was very good I admit, but the FAMAS is better IMO.


probably in combination with scavenger and fast reload? tried it a few times and ran out of ammo constantly because 1 spray and u need to reload -.-

Yeah, I run scav pro/sleight of hand pro/marathon pro with my 74u class. Infinite ammo is awesome <: D

I think the deciding factor between why the SPAS12 is better than the rest is because there's eight shots in the clip and you can put a silencer on it. HS10 has slightly better damage and reloads ridiculously quickly, but still makes it fairly impractical for clearing out rooms. Olympia seems only good at blowing one guy away at a time and the stakeout just pissed me off at how useless it was.
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
November 22 2010 02:02 GMT
#973
M14 is the real OP gun put a grip or steady aim on it and it drops everything fast.
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
xaeiu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
432 Posts
November 22 2010 03:28 GMT
#974
just played on a 24/7 nuketown server with changing gamemodes...
went from p1l20 to p1l25 in just two games(!) ... such a crazy map for leveling up...
but with the ak74u and some luck not a problem at all...
Glowinglight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States76 Posts
November 22 2010 05:47 GMT
#975
With that said, the only really glaring balance issue I still find myself faced with is how easy RC-XDs are to get relative to how effective they are.


I found myself a magnet for RC-XDs so I equipped flak jacket. Quite pleased with it, I enjoy running into RC-XDs and disappointing someone who thought they were going to get a free kill, also works wonders on claymores and random nade spam.
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
November 22 2010 05:56 GMT
#976
Is it harder to level in prestige? This is my first CoD game since 2 so kinda new to the leveling system.
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
November 22 2010 06:13 GMT
#977
I've found that the PM63 with the extended mag to be very effective even at range. It has a fairly low recoil and a high rate of fire comparable to that of the AK74. With this gun and Sleight of Hand Pro, I average a 3.5 kill to death ratio.
AnAngryDingo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States223 Posts
November 22 2010 07:44 GMT
#978
played some on my friend's Xbox for the first time tonight

first impressions:

people that play this game are lame. it's just not fun when you have to check literally every nook and cranny of every freakin map for some clown camping or laying prone with his sights up waiting for you to walk by.

the sniping sucks. wtf, lets make killstreaks more powerful and gimp quickscoping. haha, yeah, that was the problem with MW2, GJ Treyarch.

not having stopping power or juggernaut is cool, actually makes more diverse perk setups viable.

maps seem decent to good, better than most MW2 maps (excluding the Cod4 ones) that i saw.

all in all, a step in the wrong direction for the franchise IMO. I'm probably giving up on the series altogether, hopefully they don't ever take down the COD4 servers on XBox so i can shoot some people in the face with my trust M40A3 when I go on a losing streak in SC2
AT_Tack
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany435 Posts
November 22 2010 07:52 GMT
#979
Aksu is the best weapon imo. High Mobility beats famas in a straight 1on1 battle but once the enemy is waiting for you with the famas cocked you are done for.

Try Servers with no attachements, no perks and no killstreaks, those are the best.
i have an alltime K/D of about 3.0 even without fancy killstreak chopper bm
eXiled
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands91 Posts
November 22 2010 08:36 GMT
#980
On November 22 2010 16:52 AT_Tack wrote:
Aksu is the best weapon imo. High Mobility beats famas in a straight 1on1 battle but once the enemy is waiting for you with the famas cocked you are done for.

Try Servers with no attachements, no perks and no killstreaks, those are the best.
i have an alltime K/D of about 3.0 even without fancy killstreak chopper bm


do you have some server ip's? because I like barebones so much more then all the killstreak and equipment filled servers. Only thing is it is kind of random that I join one because they don't have a filter for it -.-
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