I can take a shot at coming up with a list of parties for czak but if everyone can please take a look at my czak guide and brain storm some possible party arrangements and post their ideas, it would be great!

Thanks!

or if you see a mistake in my guide that would be even better.

phyre112

United States3090 Posts

March 18 2011 22:38 GMT

#2982

Isn't all that bishops do heal the seduce mules and rez the melee party? I would think that mages count more as ranged attackers, only not as strong as a BM or NL.

How many parties do we have, anyway? There's three bishops in the guild (roffles/ness/vicarnomnom?). Two DRK'S of high enough level (rayman+sam), neos/jay/error/terrible for bowmen/SE, joker for NL (Lol trolled when elvex signed on last night)... two BaMs, one aran, one androgenous shadower... what am I forgetting? Is that really enough to take czak?

Edit: kesrith, nitty, profit and op. Forgot. So maybe that is enough?

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

March 18 2011 22:56 GMT

#2983

who the hell are riddles and news :S

we also have tarias but he hasn't been on much lately

xusam

United States419 Posts

March 18 2011 23:05 GMT

#2984

i dont know if mages can attack much during the arms because of mass dispels every 2 seconds or so but you're probably right about mages being able to attack during the body

ok so here my shot at the parties

Melee Parties
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Party 1
sam
leegi
neos
naonao
MnM

Party 2
ray
vicar
grace
kritty
QQ

Party 3
wonkman
Ness
tarias
gotblunt
Kes

Ranged Parties
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Party 4
terrible
nitty
opshot

Party 5
error
profit
joker

Order Entering into Czak Map
The first person to go in will be captain. Once inside it will be passed to whoever goes in right before the bishops. That person (decided ahead of time) will be responsible for expedition micro.

Seduce Group
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1. tarias
2. grace
3. gotblunt
4. wonkman
5. ray

Backup Seduce Group
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6. sam
7. kritty
8. MnM
9. QQ
10. naonao

Ranged
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11. Kes
12. Neos
13. opshot
14. joker
15. nitty
16. profit
17. terrible
18.error (captain)

Bishops
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19. vicar
20. ness
21. leegi

let me know what you guys think, Thanks

awesomoboi

United States42 Posts

March 18 2011 23:18 GMT

#2985

Hey, just came back from my hiatus of.... ~4 months due to school/etc.
Was wondering if I could rejoin the guild? IGN: BanShouRen

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

March 19 2011 00:30 GMT

#2986

I'll be working all weekend so good luck at Czak while I'm gone :0

Hopefully I'll be able to get on Monday ^_^

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

March 19 2011 01:35 GMT

#2987

Well another problem is DCs. Even with a 2-party Zak run we had people dcing, specifically Vicar/Ness, which kinda sucks for us.

I can seduce mule too btw, Grace has pot lag iirc and Tarias/oto haven't been on much.

xusam

United States419 Posts

March 19 2011 01:42 GMT

#2988

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1150348/0/Cygnus_Knight_Quest_Guide.html

FOR NAONAO

XinRan

United States530 Posts

March 19 2011 03:14 GMT

#2989

http://www.doodle.com/4h3ktmfruki6z939
Guys if you want to czak please put your availability on the poll. Thanks.
edit: Filled in the poll. I'm on break right now, so I'm not too sure about my availability when I get back to school. I'll edit my responses as it changes.

_Ness_

United States77 Posts

March 19 2011 04:12 GMT

#2990

Ke5 I cant believe you boomed that... Exciting to hear about czak! The power supply to our compter died today so I can't czak with you guys. QQ if you can get on my account and give grace 12m for his GFA. I already have it. on the ps3 it now so ill check back later.

Neos

United States400 Posts

March 19 2011 05:56 GMT

#2991

I think there should be a Drk with each ranged party since I was looking up some Czak vids and they were getting hit almost 7k from just the arms; or maybe it's some 1/1 move that the arms have in Chaos version i donno.

xusam

United States419 Posts

March 19 2011 06:20 GMT

#2992

I agree that it would be good to have a DRK in each party but we only have 3 currently in the guild... so either the melee gets HB or the ranged gets HB... it is inevitable for the melee to get hit by czak's physical attacks... however ranged attackers can attack from afar and therefore have a much better chance not to get hit by czak body's physical attacks... any thoughts on what I just said will be appreciated...

P.S. no one is getting HB during the arms stage because dispel happens every 2 seconds... good luck keeping HB up with 25 dispels per minute... hp wash anyone? lol

nMn

United States144 Posts

March 19 2011 09:41 GMT

#2993

Ugh that means I have to keep spamming ada30

Zarathusta

United States114 Posts

March 19 2011 14:36 GMT

#2994

Better than having to spam MG because my max HP is only ~2200.

xusam

United States419 Posts

March 19 2011 15:49 GMT

#2995

On March 19 2011 18:41 nMn wrote:
Ugh that means I have to keep spamming ada30

during arms... the only people spamming buffs are the mages... everyone else has to just attack... otherwise its gonna take too long to kill the arms...

XinRan

United States530 Posts

March 19 2011 17:02 GMT

#2996

I think the party arrangement that sam came up with are fine. As he said, no one will have HB 100% of the time, so you will need to have enough HP to take 2 hits without HB. The ranged people shouldn't be getting seduced, so not being 1 hit is sufficient to survive.

So dispel happen so often that buffs like SE and MW are not worth casting? On a related note, I think all bowmen should buy diamond arrows to avoid casting soul arrow during arms.

On March 19 2011 14:56 Neos wrote:
I think there should be a Drk with each ranged party since I was looking up some Czak vids and they were getting hit almost 7k from just the arms; or maybe it's some 1/1 move that the arms have in Chaos version i donno.

Nexon nerfed czak after BB, so it shouldn't be hitting as hard as 7k.

xusam

United States419 Posts

March 19 2011 17:10 GMT

#2997

on a side note... the lvl 171 warrior, ign MidCrest, that buddied me is the guild leader of Night... she seems to be reasonable... said she heard from FS that we are hackers and we steal czak ch's... also said she doesnt know why we get such a bad rep which to me means she has a brain and likes to make her own decisions... anyways she says that her guild is cool with us and that she never had any problems with us... which is consistent with what Kritty told me when I first bumped into Blaze at ToT...

i like how in Deme the people with a brain are able to decide for themselves who they like or dont like... sometimes in scania i found that certain people would jump on the hating bandwagon just cuz a big guild spreads rumors... so yea... TL ftw.. =)

I really love how we do our recruiting through TL though...

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

March 19 2011 17:11 GMT

#2998

I need a non feg to log into my char for an hour.

xusam

United States419 Posts

March 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2999

regarding czak... the body 2 and 3 do cast potion lock for 6 seconds... that might be a problem for the ranged party if you get hit with czak's magic attacks while you are in potion lock... but yea we'll just have to see when we do our first fail run lol...

Neos

United States400 Posts

March 19 2011 18:10 GMT

#3000

On March 20 2011 02:19 xusam wrote:
regarding czak... the body 2 and 3 do cast potion lock for 6 seconds... that might be a problem for the ranged party if you get hit with czak's magic attacks while you are in potion lock... but yea we'll just have to see when we do our first fail run lol...

From the guide I read, the strategy when you get pot locked is to climb the rope and bump into the summons for less damage.