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Inane_Asylum
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
January 20 2012 03:00 GMT
#3741
Any clue when it might be back up?
"Stare not into the playstyle of CatZ, lest it stare back into you." -TotalBiscuit
bstronG.
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada6 Posts
January 20 2012 03:30 GMT
#3742
I saw my brother playing this on xbox 360, and to be honest, the first time I saw it it looked to be ridicucously bad. But when I took more time into it, it was a completly different game.. but I still didnt knew that was a popular game :O
The more you read and learn, the less your opponent will know.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 20 2012 19:42 GMT
#3743
On January 20 2012 12:00 Inane_Asylum wrote:
Any clue when it might be back up?


Sometime today or tomorrow.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Inane_Asylum
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
January 20 2012 20:14 GMT
#3744
Thanks. My wife is going insane -_-
"Stare not into the playstyle of CatZ, lest it stare back into you." -TotalBiscuit
JiggalyWiggaly
Profile Joined October 2011
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 21:56:05
January 20 2012 21:55 GMT
#3745
can you unban me, not my fault one of the bugs in your system happened on my account. i mean at least include something on the front page saying: if you encounter the VERY POPULAR bug where you have infinite items then let me know, you're not just on creative mode. i read over all the rules and you didnt include anything about that being a bug so yeah. thanks.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
January 20 2012 22:48 GMT
#3746
Seeing as I know you had talked to others about this, you knew this was a bug, and that you should not have abused it. You quite clearly was aware that your creative mode would be fixed, and stored ABSURD amounts of valuable materials for when that happened. Whats more, you gave materials to others just cause you could. Luckely the others had the decency to get rid of them, but you obviously intended on abusing the bug as much as you could.

I keep my stance on the ban. But if Serejai wants to give you a second chance you should talk to him in Pm's.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
JiggalyWiggaly
Profile Joined October 2011
United States32 Posts
January 21 2012 00:08 GMT
#3747
alright, well i talked to others, and ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THEM told me it was a bug. TWO people said oh, you're just on creative mode, when i asked why i had infinite items. I dont get how i was suppose to know it was a bug if its not listed as a bug anywhere on the front page and the two people i talked to didnt even mention anything about it being a bug. yeah i stored an absurd amount of items but i would gladly get rid of all of them if you just asked and told me it was a bug... this was the first server ive ever played on, i just got this game last week. i dont know anything about it. i looked up some tutorials and saw you store stuff in crates so as crazy as it seems, i stored stuff in crates. i dont even know what everythings worth.

you say i knew it was a bug but i can tell you for a fact that no where and no one said anything about it being a bug. maybe it should have been obvious but its not obvious to a new player...
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
January 21 2012 00:21 GMT
#3748
You have infinite items in Creative mode. The only point in storing anything is that you know you will lose Creative mode.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Franium
Profile Joined November 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 00:23:16
January 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#3749
+ Show Spoiler +
alright, well i talked to others, and ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THEM told me it was a bug. TWO people said oh, you're just on creative mode, when i asked why i had infinite items. I dont get how i was suppose to know it was a bug if its not listed as a bug anywhere on the front page and the two people i talked to didnt even mention anything about it being a bug. yeah i stored an absurd amount of items but i would gladly get rid of all of them if you just asked and told me it was a bug... this was the first server ive ever played on, i just got this game last week. i dont know anything about it. i looked up some tutorials and saw you store stuff in crates so as crazy as it seems, i stored stuff in crates. i dont even know what everythings worth.

you say i knew it was a bug but i can tell you for a fact that no where and no one said anything about it being a bug. maybe it should have been obvious but its not obvious to a new player...



Superior argument. The OP does not list the server as being a survival multiplayer. Nor does it mention creative mode as a bug. It shouldn't be the client's duty when they register to realize their permissions have been enhanced.
Inane_Asylum
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
January 21 2012 01:04 GMT
#3750
On January 21 2012 09:21 Craton wrote:
You have infinite items in Creative mode. The only point in storing anything is that you know you will lose Creative mode.

This makes a little too much sense...

We'll see what Ser says, though.
"Stare not into the playstyle of CatZ, lest it stare back into you." -TotalBiscuit
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 01:42:47
January 21 2012 01:12 GMT
#3751
Jiggly's intentions seem questionable despite a reasonable argument, which is why his banned. However, the optimist in me wants to see him redeem himself. Reminds me of the parable of TT1 in which he was caught map hacking. While I am not really a fan of his, I respect that he was able to change his image over the years.

Allowing Jiggly back in could potentially set a terrible precedent where either a potentially bad precedent or a change in policy would be required- like a registration through TL rather than MC for instance. The obvious and more simple choice is to simply not let him back in. The fact is that Zaphod made the "safer" choice in this matter by laying down a ban. Maintaining the integrity of the server is vital to sustaining its community, in my opinion. Without integrity, it just wouldn't really be fun or interesting. Keeping the person in subject off the server would merely be a reflection of this.

In all honesty, I'm not really sure what I would do if i were an admin/mod. So, I would just leave the status quo as is unless a higher power decided against it.

edit: Maybe a mod should sentence him to a labor camp (Zaphod's mines* cough cough*) for a day or two as a probation-like period if he gets back in.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
January 21 2012 01:13 GMT
#3752
On January 21 2012 10:04 Inane_Asylum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:21 Craton wrote:
You have infinite items in Creative mode. The only point in storing anything is that you know you will lose Creative mode.

This makes a little too much sense...

We'll see what Ser says, though.


Quoted for truth. This is the reason for the ban.

Storing the items told me that you anticipated to lose creative and prepared for it.

There is no way to you can convince me otherwise. It is too much effort to make 20+ chests and fill them with valuables for it not to be a planned attempt at cheating.
Simple as that.

On a related note, Sere should probably change to OP if the server update hasn't fixed the problem.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
Xaeryn
Profile Joined September 2010
186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 01:23:09
January 21 2012 01:21 GMT
#3753
On January 21 2012 10:13 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On a related note, Sere should probably change to OP if the server update hasn't fixed the problem.


speaking of which, i'm dying to finish my palace. ETA on server going back up?
JiggalyWiggaly
Profile Joined October 2011
United States32 Posts
January 21 2012 01:30 GMT
#3754
you're right. storing items on creative mode does not make sense... unless you've never played the game before and dont know how it works. all i know is i looked up some videos on minecraft and saw people saying you have to have crates, so i made crates. yes i understand how this could have caused a big problem but why not just delete all the items and take the bug off of my account?

i dont see how it would look better for the server admins to ban someone for a reason they dont have listed at all anywhere in this topic. thats like someone going to jail for violating a law that doesnt exist.
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
January 21 2012 01:36 GMT
#3755
Still not on? :o
Franium
Profile Joined November 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 02:38:50
January 21 2012 02:38 GMT
#3756
If I logged into a server for first time on creative mode, I agree, I wouldn't necessarily start stockpiling things in chests. I would /give whatever whenever for short term pleasure, destroying items immediately after I finished using them. However, if I knew I other people were working on regular survival without /give, I,along with any other sane person, would start stockpiling. Given the chance to spawn unlimited items, you really, honestly, would not compromise your decency?
I mean before that, you might wonder ask, "is this a creative server?"
"no"
then begin to milk it for all it's worth.

It's not like 10,000 tnt was spawned and denoted on spawn (which wouldn't be that bad).
3rd party mods or software were not used.
safeguards were not directly torn down nor bypassed,

A person simply did what any reasonable person would do to expedite their empire.

I could care less what happens, and JiggalyWiggaly is probably not a new player if he knew which blocks were 'rare' and which weren't. But why spawn big chests of diamond? To what end? To monopolize a non-existent economy, giving yourself the ability to trade for everything. You can spawn everything already, that's a waste of a step... Nothing malicious nor extraordinary was done. Simply next time have a better system for preventing item creation or duping.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 21 2012 15:35 GMT
#3757
On January 21 2012 09:08 JiggalyWiggaly wrote:
alright, well i talked to others, and ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THEM told me it was a bug. TWO people said oh, you're just on creative mode, when i asked why i had infinite items. I dont get how i was suppose to know it was a bug if its not listed as a bug anywhere on the front page and the two people i talked to didnt even mention anything about it being a bug. yeah i stored an absurd amount of items but i would gladly get rid of all of them if you just asked and told me it was a bug... this was the first server ive ever played on, i just got this game last week. i dont know anything about it. i looked up some tutorials and saw you store stuff in crates so as crazy as it seems, i stored stuff in crates. i dont even know what everythings worth.

you say i knew it was a bug but i can tell you for a fact that no where and no one said anything about it being a bug. maybe it should have been obvious but its not obvious to a new player...


I went through the chat logs. Here is your entire history on the server:

Join server for the first time
Immediately use /sethome command (first indication you knew what you were doing)
Stockpile items in chests

And here are the two defining points...

a) Not only did you stockpile all the valuable items in chests less than 3 minutes after joining the server (incredibly short amount of time for you to read the entire wiki and browse through hundreds of blocks to figure out the valuable ones), but you also gave yourself an inventory full of them and spam threw them to other players.

2012-01-17 18:31:58 [INFO] [main]<deadrabbit1338> and he kept throwing them at me

Coincidentally, deadrabbit1338 is also your friend.

b) You keep saying you asked people why you had infinite items... and you even said the following in a PM you sent me

After I registered, I still had everything but when I asked if this was a bug, some dude said I was just on creative mode.


The problem is I went through the entire chat logs of the server and the only thing you ever said was that you were deadrabbit's friend. You never once asked about creative mode as you claim to have.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 21 2012 15:40 GMT
#3758
Also, unrelated: Server will be up shortly. Something came up yesterday and I had to step out for a while.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
zeroISM
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan161 Posts
January 21 2012 16:13 GMT
#3759
Oh.. my... god, thank you so much for bringing this back!
I had a great time back in the day when we were watching GSL while minecrafting ^_^
Please check the old server log, I was on TLMembers group!
Oooo can't wait to play again with TLers :D
♘
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
January 21 2012 16:58 GMT
#3760
serebot i miss u

we used to be friends

were u go?
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
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