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Serejai
6007 Posts
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On December 02 2011 02:43 Serejai wrote: I'm well aware of unstable dev builds that cause entire world corruption and don't work with 90% of plugins... If you dislike this server so much then go find another one? Growing tired of you trolling this thread repeatedly -_- EDIT: Not trying to be rude or anything but this isn't the first time you've implied I don't know how to run a server by suggesting you have some insider info that I'm not using. I assure you I know more about the development status of Bukkit than anyone else on these forums and there simply isn't a stable option at the moment. I'm in contact with the devs on a daily basis, as well as the devs of multiple high profile plugins we use, and the mod system simply isn't ready for public use yet. If you need an immediate fix of Minecraft there are tons of servers out there using the 1.0 dev builds, but I'm not willing to sacrifice server quality to be one of them :/ How am I trolling the thread repeatedly? I've made one post since MC went 1.0 and you can't even classify it as a troll post. I'm sorry you feel threatened by me but I've had no problems running the latest stable dev builds of bukkit and have numerous of the plugins I use working on my personal server. Theres only 3 out of 12 that I want not working. I'm not trying to say you open the server immediately and leave everything half-assed, I'm just pointing out that even without the 'official' release of bukkit 1.0 you can still do a lot with the dev builds. A lot of plugin authors are getting their plugins updated and working with the latest versions and a lot of unupdated plugins still work perfectly. Its a very far cry from your "90% of plugins" that you claim. On December 02 2011 09:22 jorge_the_awesome wrote: How? Can you explain? I guess you could theoretically look in all random corners and caves for suspicious behavior, but xray/orefinder (zombe's modpack) is all client-side, no? There is no way to 'detect' it, but there are ways of blocking it and there are ways to guess if someone is using it. There is no 100% definitive way of knowing, though. | ||
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jorge_the_awesome
United States463 Posts
I tried googling it, but nothing came up. How do you do that? Edit: Nvm answered while I was writing. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
If you can't have a server that's got everything you want for a feature-full and stable server, why have it at all? I don't think it'll take too much longer, anyways. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On December 02 2011 09:43 Chuiu wrote: How am I trolling the thread repeatedly? I've made one post since MC went 1.0 and you can't even classify it as a troll post. I'm sorry you feel threatened by me but I've had no problems running the latest stable dev builds of bukkit and have numerous of the plugins I use working on my personal server. Theres only 3 out of 12 that I want not working. I'm not trying to say you open the server immediately and leave everything half-assed, I'm just pointing out that even without the 'official' release of bukkit 1.0 you can still do a lot with the dev builds. A lot of plugin authors are getting their plugins updated and working with the latest versions and a lot of unupdated plugins still work perfectly. Its a very far cry from your "90% of plugins" that you claim. There is no way to 'detect' it, but there are ways of blocking it and there are ways to guess if someone is using it. There is no 100% definitive way of knowing, though. a) This is not the first time you've responded to me telling me I don't know what I'm doing. Feel free to start up your own server since I'm doing it wrong. b) Unless your personal server runs 50+ players at a time you have zero experience that relates to what we're running. Multiple problems arise as you start going up in players (which is also why it's practically impossible to run anything over a 70 player server). c) As I stated earlier I'm not willing to risk the work of everyone on the server by using an unstable, crash-prone build of Bukkit and plugins. It's stupid to spend 4-6 months working on a server just to rush it out before it's stable. As MisterD pointed out, "It works!" and "It's stable!" are two different things. d) You have no idea what plugins we use on the server and your comments of "lol plugins work fine" are just outright ignorant. e) There are ways to 100% know if someone is xray hacking. Sorry if you can't find them on google, but they wouldn't be very effective if people knew how they worked now would they? Please stop posting in this thread if all you're going to do is troll and spread misinformation. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
B) As I stated before, I'm not saying you open up an unfinished server. I was pointing out that you can continue working on plugins with the dev builds of bukkit as many authors are doing, it is your choice not to. C) That's what backups are for. I'm not saying you should risk all your hard work and rush things through. D) No I don't, I was pointing out that you yourself are overstating the problem and that there are plenty of plugins out there being updated for or already working for 1.0. I never implied "lol plugins work fine", in fact I pointed out a quarter of the plugins I use aren't working fine. E) Then I must be mistaken, but don't confuse me with jorge. From my experience there is no way to accurately detect x-ray hacks. Once again, I'm not trolling. I would appreciate it if you would be more civil and cease the name-calling and accusations. | ||
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jorge_the_awesome
United States463 Posts
Edit: I don't mean to get involved in this argument or troll people. | ||
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
You're being unnecessarily defensive here, Serejai. If the scale of the server renders chuiu's points invalid then by all means point it out, but he's not wrong when saying that the server would be to some extent functional without a full update. That it wouldn't meet your standards is a perfectly fair position, but there's no need to insist that it's utterly unworkable unless you have a clear reason why that might be the case. | ||
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jabberwockzerg
United States294 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On December 05 2011 09:56 jackphelps wrote: If you were to whitelist jphelps, that would be pretty sweet. The server's not live yet, bro. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
On November 30 2011 09:47 Aeres wrote: What we're going to do is invite Woodzykiler onto the server, change everyone's name to Woodzykiler, and just ban at random until we take down the real one. It'll be great. Omfg LOL | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
Block logging/rollback is not ready Monster difficulty scaling is not ready Region protection is not ready Chest protection is not ready NPCs are not ready (these actually were working well enough, but recently broke entirely in the latest dev builds) These are all major addons and used by the majority of servers out there so I don't anticipate them taking too long to update, but we're exploring in-house updating of them as well (where applicable) just in case and also communicating all issues directly to the devs to speed up their work. | ||
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Drolla
United Kingdom389 Posts
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On December 07 2011 04:55 Drolla wrote: Is there any way in which I could help the server. I'm going to be laddering less until season 5 and would like to do something with the server, the PvP server was really fun and I imagine this will definetly be so as well. Not unless you know how to code Java. We have 4k+ Minecraft players on TL but so far only three have offered to help code, and all three have been tied up with school lately. Everything else has been ready. We're just waiting on Bukkit + plugins to update right now. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
All is well. | ||
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Xaeryn
186 Posts
On December 07 2011 05:13 Serejai wrote: Not unless you know how to code Java. We have 4k+ Minecraft players on TL but so far only three have offered to help code, and all three have been tied up with school lately. Everything else has been ready. We're just waiting on Bukkit + plugins to update right now. I've done Java programming work before, but I have no experience with the minecraft code. If it's not too much of a pain in the ass to figure out what goes where I wouldn't mind helping out some. You can PM me if you want more detail. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
I'll toss you a PM shortly. | ||
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
I love minecraft and I miss a nice friendly server. Would be very glad to, see ya there! | ||
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