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crudo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 10:27:19
January 19 2011 10:25 GMT
#2161
On January 19 2011 14:23 Chuiu wrote:
I'm done with the first version of my own cartoon texture pack if anyone is interested.

[image loading]

Head over to the minecraft forums for more screens and the download or just download it here.



check this ^^
[image loading]
looks familiar, but still gj !
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 19 2011 13:25 GMT
#2162
On January 19 2011 13:24 Mystor wrote:
I just lost pretty much all of the many hours of work I put into Pidhersti. We finished the walls, windows and floored 2 floors and made enough bookcases for half of the library...

So much work... Is there any possibility that I could rebuild those few chunks using MCedit or something?


I've tried, but it corrupted EVERYTHING. Not just the active world, but my backup world too. I guess when everything turned read-only and data kept trying to be written to the files, it corrupted them or something.

Even my 1.2 world was corrupted and stuff.
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crudo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany36 Posts
January 19 2011 13:44 GMT
#2163
is the server live ?
Inane_Asylum
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
January 19 2011 13:57 GMT
#2164
That sucks, man...

Leave it to Notch, right?
"Stare not into the playstyle of CatZ, lest it stare back into you." -TotalBiscuit
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 14:14:10
January 19 2011 14:13 GMT
#2165
On January 19 2011 22:25 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 13:24 Mystor wrote:
I just lost pretty much all of the many hours of work I put into Pidhersti. We finished the walls, windows and floored 2 floors and made enough bookcases for half of the library...

So much work... Is there any possibility that I could rebuild those few chunks using MCedit or something?


I've tried, but it corrupted EVERYTHING. Not just the active world, but my backup world too. I guess when everything turned read-only and data kept trying to be written to the files, it corrupted them or something.

Even my 1.2 world was corrupted and stuff.


Well its not your fault, would be nice if you could fix it but otherwise i only lost an ugly lava tower and i gain 10 bucktets jayXD. Or are items still the same and only the world is 3 days back?

Edit: i just realized how horrible my english is
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
January 19 2011 14:22 GMT
#2166
On January 19 2011 23:13 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 22:25 Serejai wrote:
On January 19 2011 13:24 Mystor wrote:
I just lost pretty much all of the many hours of work I put into Pidhersti. We finished the walls, windows and floored 2 floors and made enough bookcases for half of the library...

So much work... Is there any possibility that I could rebuild those few chunks using MCedit or something?


I've tried, but it corrupted EVERYTHING. Not just the active world, but my backup world too. I guess when everything turned read-only and data kept trying to be written to the files, it corrupted them or something.

Even my 1.2 world was corrupted and stuff.


Well its not your fault, would be nice if you could fix it but otherwise i only lost an ugly lava tower and i gain 10 bucktets jayXD. Or are items still the same and only the world is 3 days back?

Edit: i just realized how horrible my english is

Your English is fine, man. TeamLiquid is an international site, so we don't care what your English ability is as long as you try. =P

Anyway. EVERYTHING about the server is rolled back. All mob spawners destroyed, all buildings constructed, all items collected or used... everything was rolled back 3 days.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#2167
^ As Aeres said.

I have a tad bit of new information (not really new, just something I overlooked before). So, it seems that after getting that HTTP java error listed above, my entire hard drive turned read-only. This would be why the people who were online reported their blocks rolling back every 5-10 minutes (that's how long it takes for chunks to save, as the game rotates which chunks save constantly). During this time I also had a backup save, which started before the read-only issue but didn't finish... so half of it ended up not writing, which corrupted it the same way the normal world got corrupted.

Anyway, something I just realized is that the HTTP error + read-only issue happened literally seconds after Notch patched Minecraft yesterday. This patch supposedly changed something with the authentication system (see where I'm going with this?)

I still have no idea how or why that java error caused my entire hard drive to turn read-only, but it would appear the error stemmed from whatever Notch changed in the patch yesterday (or more specifically, since the server doesn't patch instantly... whatever he changed on his website to work with the new patch).
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 19 2011 15:51 GMT
#2168
On January 19 2011 11:44 ItsFunToLose wrote:
ooof!

after about a week of not building...

in the last 2 days, i built probes, mineral line, assimilator, gateway, cybercore, stargate.

I dont know if ill find the motivation to rebuild :-(

at least i got nice screenshots!


So.. you went 1gate stargate and transitioned into losing your whole f*cking base?

If you need help, i can assist with rebuilding when the server goes online and I am available.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 19 2011 15:54 GMT
#2169
I'm sure lots of people will help... you know, assuming MCNet ever gets fixed so people can actually log in. :O
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Mystor
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada60 Posts
January 19 2011 16:16 GMT
#2170
On January 19 2011 22:25 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 13:24 Mystor wrote:
I just lost pretty much all of the many hours of work I put into Pidhersti. We finished the walls, windows and floored 2 floors and made enough bookcases for half of the library...

So much work... Is there any possibility that I could rebuild those few chunks using MCedit or something?


I've tried, but it corrupted EVERYTHING. Not just the active world, but my backup world too. I guess when everything turned read-only and data kept trying to be written to the files, it corrupted them or something.

Even my 1.2 world was corrupted and stuff.

Wow, every single chunk was corrupted O.o
That's insane...

I wasn't even aware that Java could make your hard drive read-only...

I think that Notch needs to focus on fixing some of these stability issues...
Chumza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
January 19 2011 16:43 GMT
#2171
It's pretty annoying that Notch couldn't have seen something like this happening server side.... Especially if he was working with the verification/authentication......

I mean the man has a twitter, a quick "Hey, real quick make a back up of your map or I'll ruin everything" would've saved a lot of trouble...

XD
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 19 2011 16:44 GMT
#2172
It can, but it's VERY unlikely I'm told. However, the other option (both hard drives failed at the same time, which also happened to be the exact moment I got the error message and now both drives work fine and passed all drive tests 100%) seems even less likely, so...

I really don't know at this point =/
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NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
January 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#2173
my friend just pointed out a new program you can use to make one of the 3d googlemaps

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=118247

apparently it is many many times faster the previous versions
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 20:07:06
January 19 2011 20:00 GMT
#2174
I still have no idea how or why that java error caused my entire hard drive to turn read-only, but it would appear the error stemmed from whatever Notch changed in the patch yesterday (or more specifically, since the server doesn't patch instantly... whatever he changed on his website to work with the new patch).


This couldn't have been the case, if the drive was set to read only then the back up world stored on the disk would have been perfectly preserved. Also minecraft would have almost immediately failed to I/O exceptions, If those errors actually caused this corruption then notch has exposed a huge security issue with the JVM and/or OS for your server, which seems unlikely.

Have you hear about any other hosts having this problem? I haven't seen any other victims so far.


EDIT:
By the way, to mitigate future damage, ( as this will happen again many times :D ) Can we set up a more staggered back up process?
probably weekly archived world files, and at least two tiered short term back ups (daily & hourly or whatever increment we're working with)

tbh we got off easy with only 3 days of rollback :<
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 19 2011 21:27 GMT
#2175
We backup every 3 hours and store up two 2-3 weeks of backups at a time. However, since we had just moved over to the new server and I've also been focused on getting the 1.2 Bukkit server running, we forgot to install an unzip utility for our backup script to use (CentOS had one by default... apparently Ubuntu doesn't).

That being said, I was doing a manual backup anyway every few hours because I was paranoid Bukkit would somehow mess things up. The reason why that manual backup won't load is because it was halfway through writing the backup when the drive went RO, and I guess that corrupted the entire thing (the level.dat file was probably written with chunk data already, and so it tries to call chunks that hadn't been written yet when loading... which prevents the entire thing from running instead of just preventing the missing chunks).

As for others having this problem, 2-3 smaller servers did but it could have just been a large coincidence.
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snake520
Profile Joined December 2010
27 Posts
January 20 2011 01:16 GMT
#2176
Is it down or is it just my horrible signal in my room lol
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
January 20 2011 01:19 GMT
#2177
On January 20 2011 10:16 snake520 wrote:
Is it down or is it just my horrible signal in my room lol


down for me too
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Where's the counter?"
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 20 2011 01:31 GMT
#2178
MCNet is still up and down. ETA is tomorrow before it's working 100% again.
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snake520
Profile Joined December 2010
27 Posts
January 20 2011 01:49 GMT
#2179
Okay, thanks for the update! Better start my reading before I go back on and play lol
Efemral
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia67 Posts
January 20 2011 05:04 GMT
#2180
Thanks to Serejai and everyone else who works so hard on this complicated problem. It's really appreciated.
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