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las91
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RoieTRS
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Thieving Magpie
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On October 04 2015 12:00 RoieTRS wrote: Yes unless you jam the latest list of red 1drops Don't be ridiculous. The red 2 drops are relevant also. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
Jace is at 60$ hahaha some people are getting trolled HARD | ||
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Risen
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Meta
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RoieTRS
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On October 05 2015 08:35 Risen wrote: Your definition of a meme is interesting. Why waste money on chinese cardboard when you can just proxy? Heh yeah, its like the linux meme, where we got everyone using operating system that can't even play games haha CLASSIC. Honestly the rules of mtg are open source and that's why hearthstone yugioh pokemon netrunner can get away with stealing mtg's rules. So what's so bad about using cards that just happened to not be produced by WotC? Frankly WotC's business model is unethical and should have the same regulations as casinos. It might have been revolutionary in how it avoided card price bubbles but they sure didn't adapt to the times. Go see for yourself what a pitiful state mtgo is in. The game itself is pretty fun... I just wish wotc would go bankrupt though. I can't believe there isn't a hell. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
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On October 05 2015 11:00 RoieTRS wrote: Heh yeah, its like the linux meme, where we got everyone using operating system that can't even play games haha CLASSIC. Honestly the rules of mtg are open source and that's why hearthstone yugioh pokemon netrunner can get away with stealing mtg's rules. So what's so bad about using cards that just happened to not be produced by WotC? Frankly WotC's business model is unethical and should have the same regulations as casinos. It might have been revolutionary in how it avoided card price bubbles but they sure didn't adapt to the times. Go see for yourself what a pitiful state mtgo is in. The game itself is pretty fun... I just wish wotc would go bankrupt though. I can't believe there isn't a hell. I don't really want to get into this, because there is definitely an issue with pricing in formats I love (due to the reserved list). Also, modern is starting to get out of control. However, what I love about the game (being able to play in regular, semi-competitive pick-up tournaments pretty much anywhere anytime) is largely enabled by a strong secondary market. Counterfitting hurts that. | ||
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las91
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On October 05 2015 07:57 RoieTRS wrote: People are still getting fooled by the meme that you need authentic mtg cardboard when the chinese cardboard is way cheaper and just as good Jace is at 60$ hahaha some people are getting trolled HARD it's at $80 depending on where you are now, it's kinda crazy although the G/W list and Atarka red list give me hope I can maybe last without hangarback | ||
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Thieving Magpie
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On October 05 2015 20:02 BallinWitStalin wrote: I don't really want to get into this, because there is definitely an issue with pricing in formats I love (due to the reserved list). Also, modern is starting to get out of control. However, what I love about the game (being able to play in regular, semi-competitive pick-up tournaments pretty much anywhere anytime) is largely enabled by a strong secondary market. Counterfitting hurts that. I second this sentiment. Wizards of the Coast has no control of the secondary market. A card costing X dollars is at the whim of the players and the stores, not Wizards of the Coast. As such, any counterfeiting does nothing but hurts players and stores and does nothing to Wizards of the Coast. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On October 05 2015 23:43 Thieving Magpie wrote: I second this sentiment. Wizards of the Coast has no control of the secondary market. A card costing X dollars is at the whim of the players and the stores, not Wizards of the Coast. As such, any counterfeiting does nothing but hurts players and stores and does nothing to Wizards of the Coast. Yes and No. Prices are still primarily driven by supply and demand. The best common in Standard isnt going to cost $60 While Wizards indeed has no control over the secondary market they do have some control over the supply side. | ||
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deth2munkies
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Thieving Magpie
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On October 05 2015 23:49 Gorsameth wrote: Yes and No. Prices are still primarily driven by supply and demand. The best common in Standard isnt going to cost $60 While Wizards indeed has no control over the secondary market they do have some control over the supply side. Wizards can only flood the market as much as there's demand. They sell to stores who sells it to us. If you think the stores need to buy more boxes from wizards, then players need to buy from stores more. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On October 05 2015 23:51 Thieving Magpie wrote: Wizards can only flood the market as much as there's demand. They sell to stores who sells it to us. If you think the stores need to buy more boxes from wizards, then players need to buy from stores more. No my point was that Wizards could have upped the chance of getting a Jace or Hangerback in a booster which would have increased supply and reduced prices. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
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On October 05 2015 23:53 Gorsameth wrote: No my point was that Wizards could have upped the chance of getting a Jace or Hangerback in a booster which would have increased supply and reduced prices. The availability of a card is controlled as to not affect draft. Hangerback walker would break the draft format if it were an uncommon (for example) What drives prices up more than anything is demand. Loot at the costs of Serum Visions for example. Or the price difference between Volcanic Island and Badlands. In fact, both Jace and Hangerback were considered bad cards in early previews and even Wizards spent more energy talking about Lili and Nissa than they did Jace which they mostly said "Hey look! its a Looter!" So its not like they could have predicted the demand of any given card. Whether it be Jace, any other card they print. Hindsight is hindsight for a reason. | ||
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las91
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On October 05 2015 23:51 deth2munkies wrote: I still have a foil Jace sitting in my binder, waiting to trade for an entire playset of a fetch or something. I ended up getting a box, opened 1 Drana, 1 Gideon, and a bunch of other useless shit. No expeditions, only 2 battlelands. Sad day. Haven't really had time to fix up my deck for the new standard, but it's going to have Seige Rhino in it, because I love that card. still waiting on my bfz box delivery, I just don't want to play any rhinos, jaces, or hangarbacks. #hipster | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 06 2015 02:50 las91 wrote: still waiting on my bfz box delivery, I just don't want to play any rhinos, jaces, or hangarbacks. #hipster May you have far better luck than I did. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 06 2015 02:57 deth2munkies wrote: May you have far better luck than I did. I'd probably be happy with a Drana and Gideon given my luck lately. 17 packs opened since prerelease, zero mythics. | ||
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las91
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On October 06 2015 03:07 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd probably be happy with a Drana and Gideon given my luck lately. 17 packs opened since prerelease, zero mythics. did two prereleases + bought an intro pack, shambling vents + desolation twin foil, two greenwardens. no lands/expeditions/planeswalkers tho for whatever reason I open green mythics like... a lot. I just hate green so much :-/ | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
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On October 05 2015 23:51 deth2munkies wrote: I still have a foil Jace sitting in my binder, waiting to trade for an entire playset of a fetch or something. I ended up getting a box, opened 1 Drana, 1 Gideon, and a bunch of other useless shit. No expeditions, only 2 battlelands. Sad day. Haven't really had time to fix up my deck for the new standard, but it's going to have Seige Rhino in it, because I love that card. 2 batte lands a drana and a gideon is a sad day? Thats pretty good to open. And you realize an expedition is in app. 1 out of 6 display, do you? You opened the most valuable card in Gideon and Drana which will be a force in standard as well. Say day indeed.. o_O | ||
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