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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 12:27:29
September 04 2011 10:04 GMT
#921
Not to my knowledge no, I know they used to come in starters with "trial" codes but that was in like 04/05.

Edit: Holy hell I suck at spelling at 5 am >.>
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DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 04 2011 14:47 GMT
#922
PT Philly top 8 starting now.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/events.aspx?x=mtgevent/webcast/home#
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
September 04 2011 15:22 GMT
#923
On September 04 2011 23:47 DEN1ED wrote:
PT Philly top 8 starting now.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/events.aspx?x=mtgevent/webcast/home#


I can't believe I'm rooting for the 12post player.

I also hope the zoo deck advances because that would be fun to watch.
good vibes only
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
September 04 2011 15:56 GMT
#924
This is my first time watching an MTG tournament live. I used to play it casually with my friends, but haven't for a couple of years. I'm sick atm and don't really feel like playing anything, so I'll watch the games.

The commentators are really great, and I really like the card display to the right, really helps me out. I might even come back to watch again. Can anyone give a quick rundown of the strategies the players are using?
uiotui
Profile Joined February 2010
United States54 Posts
September 04 2011 16:07 GMT
#925
So confusing to watch having not played MTG for 10 years
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 04 2011 16:16 GMT
#926
On September 05 2011 00:56 DerNebel wrote:
This is my first time watching an MTG tournament live. I used to play it casually with my friends, but haven't for a couple of years. I'm sick atm and don't really feel like playing anything, so I'll watch the games.

The commentators are really great, and I really like the card display to the right, really helps me out. I might even come back to watch again. Can anyone give a quick rundown of the strategies the players are using?

Top 4 are:

Affinity - Dump 90 bajillion artifacts on the table and win with Arcbound Ravager or Atog.

Mono-Blue Poison - Blighted Agent + Blazing Shoal and any number of 9-10 CMC red cards (Dragonstorm and Progenitus were 2 I remember from the decklist).

Zoo - Play lots of creatures and attack. Main beaters are Wild Nacatl and Knight of the Reliquary plus some burn and Exalted creatures like Noble Hierarch

Splinter Twin - Deceiver Exarch or Pestermite + Splinter Twin or Kiki-Jiki to make infinite copies of the creature. (Spintertwin on Exarch, tap exarch to make another exarch whose trigger untaps the first exarch who taps to make another exarch, etc)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 04 2011 16:23 GMT
#927
You don't untap the first Exarch if you are relying on Kiki.
Get it by your hands...
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#928
On September 05 2011 01:23 Judicator wrote:
You don't untap the first Exarch if you are relying on Kiki.

In my example, I used twin instead of kiki.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 16:30:19
September 04 2011 16:29 GMT
#929
Edit: I was beaten to the punch by deth2munkies! Damnit

It's probably very confusing if you don't know the cards, considering half the decks revolve around certain combos so once someone gets the pieces through successfully the game just ends.

All the decklists can be found here so you can get a good idea of the cards: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/ptphi11/top8Decklists

The next match will be between Sam Black and Josh Utter-Leyton.

Sam's monoblue deck revolves around a combo with Blazing Shoal (cast for free using Progenitus or Dragonstorm) pumping Blighted Agent for 10 poison damage (and therefore the win) as soon as turn 3.

Josh's green/white/red deck is aggro, relying on beats from Tarmogoyf, Wild Nacatl and Knight of the Reliquary alongside burn spells such as Lightning Helix and Lightning Bolt. It also runs a blue splash for Bant Charm, as well as Flashfreeze and Unified Will in the sideboard.

The following match will be between Chikara Nakajima and Samuele Estratti.

Nakajima runs a monored artifact aggro deck. It has a bunch of 0 and 1 casting cost artifacts, which he uses to sacrifice to Arcbound Ravager and Atog for massive damage on turns 2-3. He runs fling to effectively double the damage they can do on their attack, and Cranial Plating as an alternative to the sacrifice + fling combo. Because he's monored he can run Blood Moon in the sideboard to screw up multicolor and 12post decks.

Estratti runs a blue/red combo deck that revolves around Splinter Twin or Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker creating infinite copies of Pestermite or Deciever Exarch. If the combo's not obvious, when Twin or Kiki-Jiki creates a copy of Pestermite or Deciever Exarch, the copy's enter-the-battlefield ability untaps the original. This process repeats a billion times, and since all the copies have haste they swing for a billion damage. This combo's not as fast as some others but he runs a lot of control cards to ensure that he can make it to turn 4-5.
good vibes only
uiotui
Profile Joined February 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 16:44:04
September 04 2011 16:43 GMT
#930
Thanks for takin' the time to explain, some of those combos are pretty insane... much faster decks than I remember back around Urza's block.

I bought a few hundred dollars worth of cards a few years ago but ended up just giving them all away when I didn't have anyone to play with down in Houston.

Now that I'm living in western North Dakota it's unlikely I'll find anyone to play with... Fargo on the other hand had a real nice community when I used to play/live there ~10 years ago.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 16:47:22
September 04 2011 16:47 GMT
#931
On September 05 2011 01:43 uiotui wrote:
Thanks for takin' the time to explain, some of those combos are pretty insane... much faster decks than I remember back around Urza's block.

I bought a few hundred dollars worth of cards a few years ago but ended up just giving them all away when I didn't have anyone to play with down in Houston.

Now that I'm living in western North Dakota it's unlikely I'll find anyone to play with... Fargo on the other hand had a real nice community when I used to play/live there ~10 years ago.

I live in Houston, come back : *(

I'm actually in the process of getting a deck together. I ended up opening Solemn Simulacrum in a draft and Primeval titan in a pack I won from that draft, so I'm trying to trade up for Phantasmal Images and start an illusion deck.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 04 2011 17:43 GMT
#932
That blazing shoal deck is fucking nuts.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
September 04 2011 17:51 GMT
#933
Thank you guys! Everything makes so much more sense now
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 04 2011 18:56 GMT
#934
Wow poor Sam Black. No shoal after 2 peers and a ponder. Ouch.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
September 04 2011 19:00 GMT
#935
On September 05 2011 03:56 DEN1ED wrote:
Wow poor Sam Black. No shoal after 2 peers and a ponder. Ouch.


No shoal after like 9 dig spells if you include his previous two turns as well. Pretty sad for him but I'm happy counter cat made the finals, that deck is seriously well built for this format. The sideboard makes it just amazing, I'd give him the edge over splinter twin in the finals.
good vibes only
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 04 2011 19:06 GMT
#936
Ya I was just counting the spells after he found dstorm.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
September 04 2011 21:16 GMT
#937
dryad arbor instead of either fetch for a blue land seems a bit greedy, even not knowing about the blood moon =[
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 05 2011 01:20 GMT
#938
He needed a clock. The "countercat" deck is about setting up strong early pressure, and then just flicking combo in the teeth as they try to do something stupid. I think the deck needed more draw power, but that's just me.

Modern is a very combo centered format right now, which is fine for the time being. Hopefully we have new cards that aggressive decks can play that come from Innistrad. Hopefully, PTQ season becomes modern, or I'm going to get to play Stoneforge control 1 time before rotation. In the mean time I'll enjoy my break of doing nothing majorly magic related for 2 months.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 05 2011 01:26 GMT
#939
Just made a competitive standard modo deck for eight tickets. Based around red shrine. Vampires seem to wreck me though
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 08:13:51
September 05 2011 07:52 GMT
#940
I haven't played Magic in a long time (probably been 7+ years since I last bought a card), but having just read about the Jon Finkel story (lol) I decided I want to try playing again. I used to play semi-occasionally with friends but never went to any competitive events. My decks were probably pretty bad and were mainly a mix of pre-made theme decks augmented with random stuff I got from boosters and singles I bought at the local card shop.

I'm wondering what's the best way to get back into Magic. I have a good understanding of the rules, but I have no idea how to build a deck or anything. Right now I'm just looking for some fun decks to play around with and get back into the game so I'm thinking of buying a couple theme decks so me and a friend can play some friendly games. Would this be a good idea, or is there a better way to get some decent playable decks?

I'm not too interested in playing online (I spend too much time on the computer as it is) so I definitely want real cards, not digital. Thanks guys.

Edit: I've been doing a bit more reading and I came across "Duel Decks". Since for now I plan on just playing Magic with a couple people I know and I'm not interested in spending lots of money building a deck and playing at competitions, these seem like a good option for me. What do you guys think of the Duel Decks? They worth getting? Know any good ones?
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