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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 20 2013 21:18 GMT
#9121
ok thanks guys
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 20 2013 21:22 GMT
#9122
So, what color are you guys thinking for the Prerelease? Black seems to have the best promo and good removal, but everyone else seems to know that too
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 21:43:06
September 20 2013 21:33 GMT
#9123
Black doesn't have the best promo no way. Shipbreaker Kraken ez

Edit: nvm monstrosity cost is eight. Card value plummeting. White promo now best promo.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 20 2013 21:46 GMT
#9124
Best promo combos are probably going to be uw and ur. Play flying creatures, bestow onto them, laugh at the lack of removal in the set.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
September 20 2013 21:47 GMT
#9125
I'm going red. largely because it's a 4 drop and it can trigger monstrous while stopping opponents doing the same. there's very little good removal in the set so that should win games. Also red has a lot of really solid limited cards.

Depending on how things go I want to be going red-blue or red-green
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 20 2013 21:50 GMT
#9126
Flyers are going to rule this limited format. Hopefully since you're going red you'll open a lot of removal.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 22:10:10
September 20 2013 22:09 GMT
#9127
black looks the worst to me by far
i love the low cost red spells that have scry but i think this is going to be largely about bigger creatures..

i will probably go green even tho i dont care for the promo card

hey uh, in the booster that is for the color you pick, can you get multicolor cards? i have no idea how this works lol
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
September 20 2013 22:24 GMT
#9128
Flyers are going to rule this limited format. Hopefully since you're going red you'll open a lot of removal.


There isn't much relevant flyer removal in red, most of the useable burn is too small, only lightning strike really does the job. However, blue has good defensive flyers and green has super playable reach creatures (dryad and asp) so those will probably be my go-tos
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 23:22:31
September 20 2013 23:21 GMT
#9129
On September 21 2013 07:09 travis wrote:
black looks the worst to me by far
i love the low cost red spells that have scry but i think this is going to be largely about bigger creatures..

i will probably go green even tho i dont care for the promo card

hey uh, in the booster that is for the color you pick, can you get multicolor cards? i have no idea how this works lol


Black is by far the best support color in the format. It has almost all the decent removal (although nearly all the removal in the set is bad) and it has a bunch off cheap auras to trigger heroic, plus lifelink on multiple cards, an evasive bestow dryad, and minotaurs with big asses to stop the ground beats.

The Overlord puts games away, apart from that you do have to kind of rely on other colors to punch through damage.
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
September 20 2013 23:44 GMT
#9130
White has some decent removal. Anyway friend went to midnight prerelease (we are in Australia) and picked white, opened fleecemane and the green bow, went 3-1 and came third. Not sure what he lost to. I will probably go white, and would really only be choosing between white and blue, just because they pair pretty well with other cards. That being said, the bulk of your pool will still determine what colours you go. Do not be afraid to splash for a third colour if it's for a bomb
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 21 2013 00:41 GMT
#9131
Picked Black for my color, obviously for removal and will be looking to splash green for the reach creatures or blue/white for flyers depending on draws of course.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 21 2013 02:27 GMT
#9132
I am converting my casual red-black aggro infect deck to fit the Modern format, and noticed that I am running "order//chaos". Since its too old for Modern, I have to replace it. Does anyone know anything that fits this niche better than "panic attack"?
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
September 21 2013 02:40 GMT
#9133
On September 21 2013 11:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I am converting my casual red-black aggro infect deck to fit the Modern format, and noticed that I am running "order//chaos". Since its too old for Modern, I have to replace it. Does anyone know anything that fits this niche better than "panic attack"?


You could try something like Madcap Skills or Seismic Stomp.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#9134
On September 21 2013 11:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I am converting my casual red-black aggro infect deck to fit the Modern format, and noticed that I am running "order//chaos". Since its too old for Modern, I have to replace it. Does anyone know anything that fits this niche better than "panic attack"?

RB Infect not so good in Modern due to the massive amount of cheap removal everyone is running (partly so they don't die to random cheesy creature combo decks). At the very least, you want to be running green for cards like Vines of Vastwood, Rancor, Ranger's Guile in addition to the plethora of cheap pump spells like Groundswell and Might of Old Krosa which breach the +4/+4 for 1 mana barrier.

Typically decks are UG, which also lets you run things like Noble Hierarch and Pendelhaven while still being on colour for efficiency.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 21 2013 03:58 GMT
#9135
Hmm... I'm already running madcap skills, but I'll think about the other cards.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
September 21 2013 12:06 GMT
#9136
went to my first part of the pre-release today, ran pretty hot. went 6-2 overall. got plenty of loot, opening heliod/purphoros/ashiok in my first sealed pool didn't hurt my trading XD

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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 21 2013 13:13 GMT
#9137
Initial Prerelease thoughts:



THE GOOD:

UG is by far the strongest archetype, at least in sealed. 5 of the top 8 decks were UG or UGw. You have evasion and the fat fatties, and G enchantment hate is pretty good vs all those bestow creatures, and the 2UG flash flier is crazy good.

If you have a Bow of Nylea, you're playing green. Holy shit does it do work.

Daxlos is one of the bombiest bombs that ever bombed. You don't even need to bestow onto him - most of the creatures want to play are 3/2s or get bestowed onto, putting them out of range of blocking him. And the dude is pure card-advantage, and in Theros, card advantage feels even more powerful than M14.




THE BAD:

Common UG trap cards: the 3U flash that untaps a guy, and the 2G guy who can become unblockable. They seem decent in limited at first glance, but in play they are atrocious. Mr flash-untap can be good, but at least in UG you're almost never without a blocker anyways, and the manasinks in Theros are good enough that leaving 4 mana open for a combat trick really isn't often worth it. Not being flying really kills his usefulness. As for the 2G 3/2 unblockable, like I said - the other mana sinks in the set are just better.




I mostly only saw UG or UGw, but I also played a UW and RBW, and watched some of the other matches. RB seems like the trap color combo to get into - you'd think the removal would lead to wins, but UG just plays more creatures than you can remove. I think GB might have enough removal, but I didn't see any so I'm not sure. UW can win some quick games, but if UG can stabilize, UW will fold pretty quick. Don't play UR. The synergy just isn't there.




All in all, it seemed like a fun experience - better than M14 at least. Have fun!
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
September 21 2013 15:34 GMT
#9138
my first impression of theros is that green is the strongest because of its creatures. creature quality is really high while removal isn't. so many creatures with toughness 5 and over, and out of burn range.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#9139
Went to prerelease and went with red because I wanted red. Wish I chose blue or white instead though haha. Those promo creatures are so good.

That said, I still opened a Purphoros, Nylea and a Hammer of Purphoros. Was too tempted to run dual colours because of the two gods, so I did, and ended up getting screwed out of devotion more often than not. In hindsight I shouldve probably went mono red haha. Overally pretty fun still, but the set seems a bit slow. Plus fliers man. Fliers.
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EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
September 22 2013 01:23 GMT
#9140
Picked Red box, went UR fliers and got first. Scry and burn spells for days and fat blue fliers and red fatties. Everyone time an opponent tried to bestow i just bounced or burned the creature in response, or used that syncopate for 1. I wouldn't pick red again though, because besides the promo creature, the aggro low drops are trash and unplayable. Open blue, trust me.
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