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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#9141
On September 22 2013 10:23 EMIYA wrote:
Picked Red box, went UR fliers and got first. Scry and burn spells for days and fat blue fliers and red fatties. Everyone time an opponent tried to bestow i just bounced or burned the creature in response, or used that syncopate for 1. I wouldn't pick red again though, because besides the promo creature, the aggro low drops are trash and unplayable. Open blue, trust me.

You got first with UR? Every UR player I saw dropped by the third round O.o
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EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
September 22 2013 02:45 GMT
#9142
hell yeah. 2 voyage's end, 1 time ebb thing, 1 searing spear/magma jet, 2 omen speaker. then i transition into my fatties after scrying for 10 years, 1x spellheart chimera, 1x horizon scholar, 1x prescient chimera, ember swallower, artisan of forms and titna of eternal fire made up my fatties.

most people tried to tap out into bestows into a bounce or counter spell, huge blow outs.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 22 2013 03:25 GMT
#9143
I had a sweet RB Minotaur deck with 1 of the rare lords and 2 of the uncommon ones. Didn't have great removal and just lost to shit like Polukranos. Got a thoughtseize at least though.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
September 22 2013 05:00 GMT
#9144
Won my 26 man prerelease tonight with UG. Had like none of the powerful disruption / removal (my only bounce spell was the 6 costing one). Just played ramp into monstrous stuff and some bigger rares. Grip tides woulda been amazing but unnecessary most games when my stuff is just bigger.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 22 2013 05:25 GMT
#9145
You people and your small prerelease events... *shakes fist*.
Get it by your hands...
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
September 22 2013 05:55 GMT
#9146
It is nice that it's like a 5-6 hour event instead of all damn day.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 22 2013 07:17 GMT
#9147
On September 22 2013 14:00 5-s wrote:
Won my 26 man prerelease tonight with UG. Had like none of the powerful disruption / removal (my only bounce spell was the 6 costing one). Just played ramp into monstrous stuff and some bigger rares. Grip tides woulda been amazing but unnecessary most games when my stuff is just bigger.

Yeah this is exactly me. My removal was way worse plummet and a fight card, just over the top with big fat fatties. I had two tidelocks that just did soo much work.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
September 22 2013 07:35 GMT
#9148
Just finished a sealed here. I went 4 and 0 picking white and going white/blue. I had a lot of heroic humans I gave flying to with super-trained-condor. My favorite play was monstrosity 10 into 20/20 trample on the large artifact creature. I also had two of that white hero creature with double strike.

The place we went to had maybe 75 players. I won 15 boosters... I refused to split in round four and I'm glad I did haha.
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FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
September 22 2013 08:11 GMT
#9149
On September 22 2013 10:57 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 10:23 EMIYA wrote:
Picked Red box, went UR fliers and got first. Scry and burn spells for days and fat blue fliers and red fatties. Everyone time an opponent tried to bestow i just bounced or burned the creature in response, or used that syncopate for 1. I wouldn't pick red again though, because besides the promo creature, the aggro low drops are trash and unplayable. Open blue, trust me.

You got first with UR? Every UR player I saw dropped by the third round O.o



I went UR today as well, with a bunch of fliers, steam augury, stormbreath dragon (seriously wtf), went 3 wins, 2 losses (mana screw), 1 draw. Stormbreath dragon is disgustingly good in limited. Sold it for $25 after the event. Deck was half aggro (minotaur 2 drop, some other aggressive 2 and 3 drops + removal) into 3/4 flier, 1/5 flier, stormbreath, kraken, and also medomai the sphinx (two unknown shores for the splash). Also had anyx and cymede, but cut it for...something else (ah yes, the x/3 x = instants in graveyard trample flier). Just because it wasn't worth putting in despite the splash. Friend went 5 wins 1 draw (ID in final) and won half a box, he also came third in a different flight winning another 10 packs, so he cleaned up this weekend. He picked black, got the whip, the mythic gorgon, solid removal, deathtouch and a few other creatures (though in our friendlies the stormbreath seemed to do all the work..).

Steam augury surprisingly good.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 22 2013 13:29 GMT
#9150
I saw a mono-red deck with Ember Swallower, Purphoros, his hammer, and 4 Minotaur Skullcleavers...he went undefeated. As did I with U/B. I had 2 of those heroic sac a creature guys, the overlord, the Shipbeaker Kaken, and a bunch of 2/3 minotaurs and ways to target my creatures. Held down the board and cast massive threats.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
September 22 2013 15:41 GMT
#9151
Last sealed pool of the pre for me was roughly this

2 stormbreath dragon (!)
1 ember swallower
1 titan
1 foil sylvan cariatid
3 voyaging satyr
2 unicorn
2 nessian asp
3 spearpoint oread

assorted reasonable quality two drops and three drops (minotaurs mostly)

I went 2-2, I am so, so, so sad . Like, totally happy with the cards I got, but man it feels bad to draw 10 lands in a row two games in a row, and have it take your opponent take that long to kill you twice, knowing the stuff you have in your deck and expecting to hit something, anything. And before you ask, I shuffled that motherfucker for like twenty minutes before the first game and pile+riffled it for about three before the second.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 23 2013 05:29 GMT
#9152
Here's a question, what do you guys plan on playing for Standard now?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 23 2013 05:44 GMT
#9153
On September 23 2013 14:29 Shotcoder wrote:
Here's a question, what do you guys plan on playing for Standard now?

The Rock.

4 Putrefy
4 Golgari Charm
4 Doom Blade
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Desecration Demon
2 Vraska the Unseen
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Thoughtseize
4 Read the Bones
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Golgari Guildgate
8 Swamp
6 Forest
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5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
September 23 2013 05:59 GMT
#9154
On September 23 2013 14:44 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:29 Shotcoder wrote:
Here's a question, what do you guys plan on playing for Standard now?

The Rock.

4 Putrefy
4 Golgari Charm
4 Doom Blade
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Desecration Demon
2 Vraska the Unseen
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Thoughtseize
4 Read the Bones
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Golgari Guildgate
8 Swamp
6 Forest

Doesn't this list just auto-fold to most control decks? You got so much targeted removal and so few threats.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
September 23 2013 06:03 GMT
#9155
On September 23 2013 14:44 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:29 Shotcoder wrote:
Here's a question, what do you guys plan on playing for Standard now?

The Rock.

4 Putrefy
4 Golgari Charm
4 Doom Blade
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Desecration Demon
2 Vraska the Unseen
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Thoughtseize
4 Read the Bones
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Golgari Guildgate
8 Swamp
6 Forest


Isn't "The Rock" a heavy disruption midrange deck with big creatures supported by wrath effects that clears swarms of small dudes as you bully the red zone with big dudes?

This neither has disruption, wrath effects, nor reliable big dudes.

Although the color seems right.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 06:08:25
September 23 2013 06:08 GMT
#9156
I've never been successful with a "rock" deck.

Just not my cup of tea.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 23 2013 06:50 GMT
#9157
On September 23 2013 15:03 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:44 iGrok wrote:
On September 23 2013 14:29 Shotcoder wrote:
Here's a question, what do you guys plan on playing for Standard now?

The Rock.

4 Putrefy
4 Golgari Charm
4 Doom Blade
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Desecration Demon
2 Vraska the Unseen
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Thoughtseize
4 Read the Bones
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Golgari Guildgate
8 Swamp
6 Forest


Isn't "The Rock" a heavy disruption midrange deck with big creatures supported by wrath effects that clears swarms of small dudes as you bully the red zone with big dudes?

This neither has disruption, wrath effects, nor reliable big dudes.

Although the color seems right.


This terminology was lost around Alara I beleive. There was an Article about in on SCG comparing modern midrange decks. The Rock essentially turn into just BG instead of the playstyle description.

As for my deck Idea. I really want to test something like this.

4x Boros Reckoner
4x Desecration Demon
3x Blood Baron or Vizkopa
1x Obzedat

3x Chained to the rocks
4x Warleader's Helix
2x Rakdos's Return
1x Rakdos Keyrune
3x Anger the Gods
3x doom blade
3x Dreadbore
1x Whip of Erebos
3x Read the bones

25x Lands

but I think the mana in this set is too poor and I will probably go Boros or Orzhov.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
September 23 2013 06:50 GMT
#9158
is 3 color really going to be unreliable? i know you won't play 8 scry gates, but maybe we were just spoiled with all the non basics?
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
September 23 2013 06:52 GMT
#9159
Note to self: never try to play combo / control at sealed events again.
Ended up 2 - 4 at Theros pre-release with my kill being Triad of Fates + either Abhorrent Overlord or Returned Centaur (Mill!!). Not the best idea^^
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 23 2013 06:54 GMT
#9160
On September 22 2013 14:00 5-s wrote:
Won my 26 man prerelease tonight with UG. Had like none of the powerful disruption / removal (my only bounce spell was the 6 costing one). Just played ramp into monstrous stuff and some bigger rares. Grip tides woulda been amazing but unnecessary most games when my stuff is just bigger.


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