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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
I actually didn't know until 2 days ago. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On September 24 2010 06:51 TheYango wrote: I actually didn't know until 2 days ago. you realize you single handedly erased like 10hours of my time in the near future because of this. (and more in the far future i guess...) | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
From watching them play I have to say the UI is clumsy and ugly (think poker sites). I also don't like the reminder things where it asks you yes/no on activations and stuff. Part of the skill of the game is to remember to do stuff and control the game. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:41 Mogwai wrote: well, the whole dynamic of bounce/pump vs. removal in combat has now been changed so that you can never enter even combat (3/3 vs. 3/3 for instance) with a pump/bounce spell without putting yourself in position to eat a 2 for 1 if the opponent has instant removal. again, w/e, I understand that they can balance this through their set construction, I just think it ruined what was once a good dynamic between the spell types. my point about the eldrazi is that their card design is stupid, less than their card design is imbalanced. basically they're threats that are impossible to deal with which is exactly 0 fun to play against, so the whole card design is a push and pull between making the person with the card want to shoot themselves (because they can't play the damn thing) and making the person without the card want to shoot themselves (because they can't deal with the damn thing when it's in play). It's like having a set where the focal point is multiple cards that are more powerful than darksteel colossus... oh wait, it's exactly that. So w/e, it doesn't necessarily have to screw up the set for drafting, but it's still stupid design IMO. It's a concept that is innately unfun IMO. god do I hate mythic being an excuse to hide behind for limited balance. go lose a PTQ top 8 draft because some fucking tard managed to open Garruk Wildspeaker and play it on turn 4 in 2 games and then come back and tell me that rarity makes planeswalkers acceptable. If anything, it's even more infuriating that each draft you'll usually have 1 dude who just hits the lottery and has some gamebreakingly powerful and resilient threat handed to them on a silver platter. Again, I understand that people can beat them and yea, I've won plenty of limited matches vs. planeswalkers, but it's still stupid that they're basically just tacked onto the game and don't have anything really devoted to removing them. They just don't feel like they belong in the game, yet Wizards seems to be running with them as a fixture in the game now. it's funny how you say the design is terrible when they based it off starcraft, not even lying. There was an article called battle cruiser magic. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 24 2010 07:57 CharlieMurphy wrote: my friends play this shit all day. It's good for draft and sealed tournies and things like that. But I think it sucks for normal play and collecting.. From watching them play I have to say the UI is clumsy and ugly (think poker sites). I also don't like the reminder things where it asks you yes/no on activations and stuff. Part of the skill of the game is to remember to do stuff and control the game. Everything triggers whether you remember or not. If you forget it's assumed that you choose no. Remembering to do something isn't skill. You also can't control the game, phases happen and priority happens, the only thing you do is make choices. You seem extremely confused about some of the basics of the game. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On September 24 2010 08:19 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Everything triggers whether you remember or not. If you forget it's assumed that you choose no. Remembering to do something isn't skill. You also can't control the game, phases happen and priority happens, the only thing you do is make choices. You seem extremely confused about some of the basics of the game. i think he means that you can get away with things like forgetting optional triggers, because the game will remind you. Which is true, but modo really makes you a better technical player just because there's no option to be sloppy [just bad]... so you learn how not to be. He's right about the UI, it's really awful. V2 was a lot better, except that it uh, didn't work half the time. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Tyrio
United States3248 Posts
On September 24 2010 10:35 Barrin wrote: I'm just posting to say that I just helped my brother sell his 7500+ card collection (1993(Unlimited) to 1999 (Mercadian Masques)) for over 700 dollars on ebay. MTG was really the first game that got me into "games", even though I was absolutely terrible at it back in the day. As for MTG:O I have no idea except that it doesn't seem worth it at all to me. I hope you researched that collection and made sure you got your money's worth. Cards that old can be worth a lot. As far as MTGO goes, it's great if you have absolutely no where else to play or if you want to get practice in before some event. Otherwise playing live is a million times better. Basic human interaction is actually extremely enjoyable, playing a bunch of drafts with little to no discussion with other people gets old extremely fast. I do love that all the janky rares on MTGO are worth next to nothing, so I can build as many terrible jank but fun decks as I want (UB Maralen of the Mornsong/Mindlock Orb lock!) | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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UniversalSnip
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
but yeh is it me or is Poison REALLY good  Note: I havn't played anything aside from like core set in like 9th edition so uhh yeh. Just seems like from the vids and stuff I've watched that poisons really good O.O | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On September 24 2010 08:07 CharlieMurphy wrote: it's funny how you say the design is terrible when they based it off starcraft, not even lying. There was an article called battle cruiser magic. That article was bizarre, considering that it sold the set's limited play as something competitive players hate (sitting around doing nothing until you can play your huge threat). It's one of the best draft formats in years, though. @ Mogwai yeah, like I said, I agree about the damage stacking thing with pump/bounce. about RoE, there are plenty of commons in the set that deal with eldrazi, while there's only one playable common eldrazi.. Also, It's not like you just sit around going "man I hope I get to cast this eldrazi" and cross your fingers. There's a lot of support for the theme, so your deck still plays like a deck and you are actively playing towards your game plan. There's also support for other themes. I really dislike planeswalkers in limited too and they really have no place in it, but the players who value limited over constructed are a tiny minority out of the entire player base... | ||
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UniversalSnip
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tissue
Malaysia441 Posts
On September 23 2010 03:41 Judicator wrote: Because that's what people are drafting right now.... While I agree with some of your points on draft, I have to step in and say that perpetual complaining about "the direction" of the game gets thrown around a lot in every set. Especially in limited where your ability to control the randomness is well...limited. Case in point, I had 1 Tome Scour in my last draft deck, I drew it every game. Scoured an opponent's bombs (Ascetic, Liliana, Doom Blade, Platinum Angel, etc.) every time. Shit happens in draft, deal with it. I am not a hotshot or even pretending to be good, but is there a particular reason why you played a single tome scour in a draft? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
I was actually hoping more would come around, but none ever did, it still worked out more than I could have hoped, and I doubt it would happen consistently. I grabbed a sligh goblin draw in a pivotal game 3 (basically for top 4) against a mono red player too. That's how draft works, you do all you can in in deck construction, but sometimes it's better to be lucky than to be good. | ||
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Glull
Germany404 Posts
 and i do agree with what was stated in this thread before - there should be a general magic the gathering thread in sports&games. ill just wait for a bit longer and then just open it myself, but someone else might be better suited for the task. ill give it a few more days. | ||
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SeaweedToss
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 24 2010 10:05 UniversalSnip wrote: i think he means that you can get away with things like forgetting optional triggers, because the game will remind you. Which is true, but modo really makes you a better technical player just because there's no option to be sloppy [just bad]... so you learn how not to be. He's right about the UI, it's really awful. V2 was a lot better, except that it uh, didn't work half the time. Memory is part of your talent, it's something that can be trained and learned as well. I don't see how it's not a skill? It's probably the most valuable skill of all in magic. If you can't remember the rules, you're just lost. I've been to live tournaments, and I've seen exactly where memory makes or breaks a game. My friend was playing that broken ass ravager deck and he forgot 2-3 times to make opponent take damage from disciple of the vault and he ended up losing (opponent had 2 life or something) the finals which got him a seat into pro tour. The ironic thing, is that my other friend was behind him and after he missed it and his turn was over he said "Man why did you not poke him!?" and the opponent was furious "WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GUY TALKING AND HELPING HIM???". They made him stop or get friend 1 DQd. Now the game asks you every time "Would you like to poke?". Fucking stupid. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
edit: heh just looking at the current cards in standard heh. planewalkers/mythic rares wtf lol. i miss playing standard/extended | ||
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AzarIntrets
109 Posts
sung_moon, current standard is not something you should miss imo :S, way too expensive and some mythics are so powerfull they go out for half a starcraft game a piece. Planeswalkers I think are a bit meh. | ||
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