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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
March 04 2013 21:30 GMT
#6581
Judicator, why are you not so sure about Augur on 2?
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
March 04 2013 21:53 GMT
#6582
On March 05 2013 01:09 Judicator wrote:
Commander builds vary whether you play 1v1 more than you play multiplayer. There's a French ban list for 1v1 and rightfully so.

Edit:

Also, you might want to consider the implications of playing high-powered decks where your friends/people no longer want to play with you. There's fun as in, hey that was a cool play, and then there's fun as in, only for you and your friends probably want to slash your tires on their way home.


Yeah, I totally agree with that, when playing with friends, it's good to have a deck that is on the same powerlevel as them. I always have a funny, goofy casual deck that I love playing when I feel I have to.
I think my best memories with MTG, is me and a bunch of friend playing FFA with some low-tier decks.
I love competitive decks, but there is just no fun to roll on friends who have casual budget decks
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
March 04 2013 22:07 GMT
#6583
On the topic of shuffling, I was caught a little off guard by people who shuffle the pack after their pick in a draft. I had always played online or at a casual store where no one did this, but at the more competitive store it seemed like common practice. I guess it makes it just slightly harder to visualize what was taken.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 23:23:58
March 04 2013 23:10 GMT
#6584
On March 05 2013 06:30 zarepath wrote:
Judicator, why are you not so sure about Augur on 2?


Because you dont always know what you need. Lets say you augur on 2 and see counterspell, removal spell, land. What do you take when all you see is a Godless Shrine or a Stomping Ground? Its the same reason why you dont alchemy on 3 if you dont know. So I dont see the merit of Augur on 2 in the dark, especially if you have another 2 cmc spell in your hand.

Edit:

Need to hammer this point out some more. I don't mean don't cast Augur on 2, I mean you should give some consideration to whether you should play that Augur on 2. I see lots of players just slamming Augur on 2 like its the auto-play, then proceed to lose because they were stuck on 2 lands for a turn or 2. If you don't know what you might need, you might not want to go turn 2 Augur and just pass.

Since the format has moved away from aggro decks (decks that do play a lot of <2 power creatures), I don't like Augur that much right now which is why you see my deck shedding both the 2nd Augur and the Dimir Charms (since Negate serves the role better of the Charm in the environment) altogether.

Now if you play a lot and see a bunch of decks, you can make that call quicker because you identify cards that you need and cards that you don't that much earlier. If you don't the the decision point might come later.

That's what I meant when I said something along the lines of not sure of Augur on 2. It's not an autoslam on 2 in (my) Esper as opposed to say UWR Flash.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
March 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#6585
On March 05 2013 07:07 Azuzu wrote:
On the topic of shuffling, I was caught a little off guard by people who shuffle the pack after their pick in a draft. I had always played online or at a casual store where no one did this, but at the more competitive store it seemed like common practice. I guess it makes it just slightly harder to visualize what was taken.


When I draft, and I know many others that do this, they shuffle relevant cards to the front and then look at those, so shuffling usually mixes everything back in . Also it's required to shuffle up the packs at a certain level of play. You could probably send some pretty strong signals just by putting certain cards in front or back if you wanted too if your not required to shuffle.
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Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
March 04 2013 23:53 GMT
#6586
Ah ok! Thanks for the explanation. I guess I will start shuffling then.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
March 05 2013 03:18 GMT
#6587
I always put them in alphabetical order
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Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 21:30:41
March 05 2013 20:49 GMT
#6588
So here is the current deck I am working towards any tips? you guys really helped me with my agro deck :D.

Edit - http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dimir-goal/ That was embarrassing
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
March 05 2013 20:57 GMT
#6589
A deck list would help.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 21:05:51
March 05 2013 21:04 GMT
#6590
Ended up going Mikaeus the Unhallowed for my recent EDH deck, turns out there are some really awesome combos with him (and fun stuff to do in monoblack altogether).

Ascendant Evinkar/ Mikaeus/ Triskellion is a hysterical end game combo nobody ever seems to see coming when I play.

Also Omniscience might be my favourite card ever haha
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Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
March 05 2013 21:31 GMT
#6591
On March 06 2013 05:57 Leonite7 wrote:
A deck list would help.


Thanks lol Updated it now
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 06 2013 07:09 GMT
#6592
On March 03 2013 21:21 Cel.erity wrote:
You can use Magic Workstation and play on http://www.magic-league.com. The competition is pretty weak, but they play all formats, and it's probably good for a beginner because you'll encounter a huge array of decks, from top tier to Makoto tier.

Looked up Magic Workstation online, and I have to buy it just to fully make a deck?

Are there any free options?
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whatwhatanut
Profile Joined December 2010
United States195 Posts
March 06 2013 07:27 GMT
#6593
On March 05 2013 08:10 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 06:30 zarepath wrote:
Judicator, why are you not so sure about Augur on 2?



Since the format has moved away from aggro decks (decks that do play a lot of <2 power creatures),


ummm what? do you play magic online?
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 06 2013 07:40 GMT
#6594
On March 06 2013 16:09 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 21:21 Cel.erity wrote:
You can use Magic Workstation and play on http://www.magic-league.com. The competition is pretty weak, but they play all formats, and it's probably good for a beginner because you'll encounter a huge array of decks, from top tier to Makoto tier.

Looked up Magic Workstation online, and I have to buy it just to fully make a deck?

Are there any free options?


No, the program is completely free. The only pain is keeping the database up to date with every new set, but it exists at a bunch of different locations like the mtgsalvation forums and http://mws.mtg-br.com.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
March 06 2013 19:09 GMT
#6595
On March 06 2013 16:27 whatwhatanut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 08:10 Judicator wrote:
On March 05 2013 06:30 zarepath wrote:
Judicator, why are you not so sure about Augur on 2?



Since the format has moved away from aggro decks (decks that do play a lot of <2 power creatures),


ummm what? do you play magic online?


Seriously, every other deck is cackler into burning tree emissary cliffhoof boar. If you cant deal with that just don't play on mtgo atm lol.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#6596
Different meta. That was written prior to SCG Las Vegas and based off of GP Gatecrash. Also Boar isnt 2 power most of the of time. Prior lists ran 2 Augurs because of what I was seeing. Like Augur is better now but in esper 2 land augur hands are so awkward to keep at times.
Get it by your hands...
whatwhatanut
Profile Joined December 2010
United States195 Posts
March 07 2013 01:07 GMT
#6597
On March 07 2013 08:44 Judicator wrote:
Different meta. That was written prior to SCG Las Vegas and based off of GP Gatecrash. Also Boar isnt 2 power most of the of time. Prior lists ran 2 Augurs because of what I was seeing. Like Augur is better now but in esper 2 land augur hands are so awkward to keep at times.


I think 2 land hands are akward to keep in esper not 2 land augur hands in particular.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 07 2013 03:35 GMT
#6598
On March 07 2013 10:07 whatwhatanut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 08:44 Judicator wrote:
Different meta. That was written prior to SCG Las Vegas and based off of GP Gatecrash. Also Boar isnt 2 power most of the of time. Prior lists ran 2 Augurs because of what I was seeing. Like Augur is better now but in esper 2 land augur hands are so awkward to keep at times.


I think 2 land hands are akward to keep in esper not 2 land augur hands in particular.


Yes, but 2 land Augur are so terrible. Like 2 land Augur in a hand of 6 makes me want to cut myself. In any case, Augurs are back up to 2, Resto to 2, spot removal and counterspells are down to make room for more ACharms and Think Twice. Meh, Esper is just so open to how you want to build it based on the meta. Ghost Council has been fantastic mainboard though, better than Jace in some matchups and just as good as Jace in others.
Get it by your hands...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
March 07 2013 08:24 GMT
#6599
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/5088707 Based on these results it seems a solid esper list has been figured out.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
March 07 2013 12:23 GMT
#6600
That's one single daily of a list that is almost identical to stark's pt list.
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