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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Avacyn, Griselbrand, Sigarda, Angel of Serenity, Armada Wurm, Other possibilities, including ones outside of my colors: Moldgraf Monstrosity, Craterhoof Behemoth, Elderscale Wurm, Gisela But I don't want to be playing a Frites/Reanimation deck, I just want the reanimation to be another angle of attack. I'm looking to get the most value out of my creatures. If I wanted to build a Frites deck I would. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On September 25 2012 07:41 Shotcoder wrote: The problem is you are running 4 unburial rites, and are claiming to not be a Reanimation deck. You're also running Lingering souls colors...without running lingering souls. That's not the problem. The real problem is that there's nothing he can do about cards stranded in his hand. In any case, that list you listed is a good place to start. Griselbrand does not in fact win any games with Azorius and Selesnya Charm in decks. Test your deck, if you do not believe me. Just proxy it up, goldfish with it and ask yourself how alive you think you are on turn 5 (play/draw), then think how useful is Griselbrand is in that situation. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On September 25 2012 08:56 Judicator wrote: That's not the problem. The real problem is that there's nothing he can do about cards stranded in his hand. In any case, that list you listed is a good place to start. Griselbrand does not in fact win any games with Azorius and Selesnya Charm in decks. Test your deck, if you do not believe me. Just proxy it up, goldfish with it and ask yourself how alive you think you are on turn 5 (play/draw), then think how useful is Griselbrand is in that situation. I meant to elaborate but couldn't find the words. Unburial rights works when you can dump things into your yard. He has no way of enabling it and abusing it's usefulness. Edit: Everyone at my store is currently getting a boner over the prospect of UW control. Which I personally don't think is viable. But they are constantly telling me how insane each individual card is, I just don't think it has everything a control deck wants yet. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On September 25 2012 11:20 abominare wrote: So im just getting back into magic over the last few months. Whats the thoughts on the pre release decks coming out? From what is known do they look balanced or is there one in particular I should be grabbing at my towns pre release event? my buddy grabbed izzit vs golgari and apparently it's not even close like golgari is 1000x better from what i hear. which reflects the actual reality if you look at the cards in golgari compared to izzit too | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On September 25 2012 11:04 Judicator wrote: The UW deck is fine. We're testing it right now, I have yet to test against it. Terminus is the best sweeper in the game right now. It's definitely one to consider but no Gideon is a big blow to it. Win cons are loose in that deck. That's what I was discussing, That the deck really lacks a consistent Win Condition that also provides the card advantage the deck is looking for. They just constantly talk about Entreat(unreliable) and snapcaster, block, flash peel from reality(too cute) instead of talking about the actual problems with the deck. Will it be a deck? Yea I'm sure enough people will play it, but I think it will be along the lines of Esper and UB right now. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
You can't play UB or Esper right now because the mana base is absolutely trash. Edit: Peel from Reality is an interesting card....if it weren't for the fact that all the Naya decks would trounce it. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
i lost 1-2 but only because he got a lucky entreat 2 times.. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
Here is the list I'm currently looking at + Show Spoiler + 4x Gravecrawler 4x Carrion feeder 4x Bloodghast 3x Tidehollow Sculler 3x Blood Artist 2x Goblin Bombardment 1x Tragic Slip 4x Cabal Therapy 4x ThoughtSeize/Hymn/Inquisition 4x Lingering Souls 4x Faithless Looting 3x ? 3x Scrubland 3x Badlands 2x Swamps 1x Undiscovered Paradise 4x Verdant Catacombs 4x Bloodstained Mire 3x Marshflats Sideboard 3x surgical extraction 2x disenchant 2x perish 2x relic of progenitus 2x Zealous persecution 2x Dark Confidant 1x Swords to plowshares 1x Oblivion Ring The problem is the 5 card slots I am unsure of. I have seen both Thoughtseize and Hymn used to great effect. For monetary reasons I am leaning toward hymn and effectiveness reasons as well. The lack of spell snares I have seen lately have me favoring it because of that as well. I also have seen lists with and without Tidehollow Sculler but I feel the card is needed as both a gravecrawler synergy and a great hand disruption spell. The core creature base is also staying as I have found it effective(4 gravecrawler, 4 bloodghast, 4 carrion feeder). I also haven't played Legacy in like 6 months, and at the time I was playing Trainwreck, so I'm a bit lost on what to board and such. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
(if you don't know yet, please don't answer yet  )I'm curious to see what people will run; will you play strictly to win it all, or will you choose based on other reasons, like favorite colors?  Poll: Which guild are you choosing at the Prerelease? Golgari (5) Selesnya (5) Izzet (3) Azorius (2) Rakdos (1) Don't care; will choose randomly. (0) 16 total votes Your vote: Which guild are you choosing at the Prerelease? (Vote): Azorius (I have a fencing tournament all this weekend, so I'll very likely not be able to make it.... T_T otherwise, I'd go Azorius probably for the guaranteed Isperia; going straight into Zedruu's deck :-D ) | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
gw has an overwhelmingly good tempo i think and also the best charm | ||
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ParanoiaDHerO
United States183 Posts
I think perhaps I'm too scattered in what I'm trying to do with the deck, I know it's beat down, but yet I throw in control and while I call it a U/W Tokens deck it reminds me a lot of an updated delver or too much of a mix of early aggression that has nothing to do with tokens in delver/stalker. I also originally ran 3 Entreat the angels in this deck but felt like that was a bit greedy? I'd love any feedback! U/W Tokens + Show Spoiler + Lands: 4 Glacial Fortress 4 Drowned catacombs 4 Hallowed fountain 3 Moorland haunt 3 Plains 1 Island Creatures: 4 Delver of secrets 4 Geist of Saint Traft 4 Talrand, sky summoner 2 Invisible Stalker Spells 4 Thought Scour 4 Midnight Haunting 4 Lingering Souls 4 Intangible virtue 3 Cancel 2 Negate 2 Unsummon 2 Sleep 2 Runechanter's Pike | ||
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Rainofpain
United States125 Posts
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ParanoiaDHerO
United States183 Posts
On September 27 2012 08:40 Rainofpain wrote: Know what, just fuck me being too poor to play anything top tier. It`s so stupid that I can`t play my sweet homebrew control/ 3 color midrange deck because a card is "Mythic Rare" to get noobs into the game. I hate it so much, Mythics need to go. I actually agree to with this somewhat.. I know they deserve to make money and such but it's freaking CARDS that they print onto paper, come on.. Cards in standard worth 20-50 bucks that are almost required to compete. I guess the saving grace is once you own them you don't ever have to buy them again, but it's quite an investment. Just be sure you really love the game before you make that move, I started playing about 4-5 months ago and just recently got serious about it. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On September 27 2012 08:43 ParanoiaDHerO wrote: I actually agree to with this somewhat.. I know they deserve to make money and such but it's freaking CARDS that they print onto paper, come on.. Cards in standard worth 20-50 bucks that are almost required to compete. I guess the saving grace is once you own them you don't ever have to buy them again, but it's quite an investment. Just be sure you really love the game before you make that move, I started playing about 4-5 months ago and just recently got serious about it. or you can play rogue. Works just as well if you take the time to tweak it and attack the metagame. my friend 4-0'd so many FNMs with a RB kuldotha rebirth deck with skirsdag high priest it was retarded. You just have to be willing to spend more time testing than the top tier decks. I played RW humans almost exclusively when Avacyn came out and alway placed in the top 4 with it in FNMs, The game isn't 100% about cards. There's a lot of knowledge and metagaming involved as well. | ||
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ParanoiaDHerO
United States183 Posts
On September 27 2012 09:39 Shotcoder wrote: or you can play rogue. Works just as well if you take the time to tweak it and attack the metagame. my friend 4-0'd so many FNMs with a RB kuldotha rebirth deck with skirsdag high priest it was retarded. You just have to be willing to spend more time testing than the top tier decks. I played RW humans almost exclusively when Avacyn came out and alway placed in the top 4 with it in FNMs, The game isn't 100% about cards. There's a lot of knowledge and metagaming involved as well. Ha, I started when AR came out and the first deck I played for over 2 months was R/W humans, great deck imo. I agree that it's about knowledge and decision making over spending those bucks. That R/W humans never went worse than 2/2 at FNM and cost me a grand total of about 30 bucks lol. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Just learn to trade and if you draft keep an eye out for value cards. It also helps if you win more than you lose in drafts. You would have some merit if there was a card like Jace 2 in the format, but there isn't. In fact the last multi-format all-star wasn't even a mythic, Snapcaster Mage is sitting at 18 right now. So slow down. I will say this though, new players never value lands. I snapped up 4 of all the Scars lands in draft (including a few foils) when I got back into the game. Post-Zendikar rotation I flipped some for cards I needed some cards for Solar Flare and later on for other things. I have a play set (with some extras) of all the Innistrad lands and will be flipping them accordingly as needed. There are just cards people will always trade for or need. For those who don't know. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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