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On November 06 2010 03:21 evilsaint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 03:17 fnaticAugury wrote:
I'd highly suggest against playing online. I'd head to a local card shop, you can usually draft every Friday for 12 bucks. It's a lot more fun, a lot more bang for your bucks. A lot of the time you can pick up cards that you can sell to pay for most of your draft as well.
You can go through a ton of money very quickly playing online, and have nothing to show for it. Can't you sell the cards you get online, or can you only get "tickets" for them?
you can sell your cards, but i believe you can also trade in a full set on mtgo for a full set in real life.
the thing is depending on your area, it might be hard to sell cards in real life for favorable prices without investing alot of work into it. i think mtgo has an easier outlet to offload your cards to get tix for your next draft.
that being said, i personally just play paper magic because i dont mind spending 14bucks for a nice evening with random (usually) cool people playing some limited. any nice pulls from the packs are just gravy. and the social aspect is a really big factor in playing magic for me. if i just played on mtgo all the time it would feel kinda meh..
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On November 06 2010 03:21 evilsaint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 03:17 fnaticAugury wrote:
I'd highly suggest against playing online. I'd head to a local card shop, you can usually draft every Friday for 12 bucks. It's a lot more fun, a lot more bang for your bucks. A lot of the time you can pick up cards that you can sell to pay for most of your draft as well.
You can go through a ton of money very quickly playing online, and have nothing to show for it. Can't you sell the cards you get online, or can you only get "tickets" for them?
I invested 200-300 dollars in to online constructed, and ended up selling a lot more than that on ebay... Online is not a black hole, you can sell your cards.., you won't always get back 100% of what you put in, or what you invest, there are times where you take losses for a week or two. If you aren't very good or are playing just casual rooms, and you spent 1000$ on cards, your obviously taking lots of losses, consider all the factors before spending $. There are positives, and negatives, for instance.. online you can rarely get good deals when looking to buy/sell, since everyone can price check stuff instantly, you save .50 tix here or there but never amazing deals.
Online is also available to play 24/7, there are constant tournaments..much more convenient if what you want to do is play tournaments... If your looking to have fun with your friends, online isn't the best place for that, there is little communication if any, I played in a lot of tournaments with a friend of mine online, and tbh, it would have been about the same fun level if he wasn't in it with me, unlike real life.
.. if you are actively looking to get better or into better tournaments, online offers a much much better platform than FNM or local drafts, I improved a ton by playing online, where I improve very little at FNM, the competition just isn't there. Online has the season championships which are pretty easy to get in to, I have qualified every month that I have been active, and offer a pretty HUGE prize($$$ and an entry into worlds) if you are interested in worlds at all.. doing well in those tournaments are a different story, the competition is really tough.. you play pretty much the best in the world for 10 rounds... I haven't made it very far in any of the ones I entered, but I did have too miss a few I qued for cause of bad chance.
Online also offers PTQs.. this is huge, since now you don't have to fish out the $$ too travel the states to attend. I personally go to events like PTQs to hang out with friends, for a fun road trip, etc.. but if your actively trying to get on the pro tour, the online PTQs are much much more cost effective than the real life ones out of state. The competition in these are also stiff, and I haven't played in any, but I have a few friends that have done extremely well in the online PTQs. It's also nice that they have a ticket entry fee, since you can pretty much take your winnings from dailys/premier events and enter PTQs constantly.(when I was extremely active, I would have been able to play about 1-2 PTQs a week no problem just with tix I earned.. problem is that the prize structure for ptqs suck, if you don't get top 4 they aren't as cost effective as entering the other tournaments as far as odds are concerned.. your paying a lot of $, and have very little chance to get a good return, so only play if your interested in the invite)
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/events/ptqmtgo/paris/11
16 PTQs are a lot of chances to make it on the PT for a single PTQ season,
so if you want to improve your game by playing much better competition, play any time of the day you want(for those that can't attend FNM, cause of work, or just like to play more than once a week), get on the PT or invite to Worlds(keep in mind these tournaments are by no means easy, in fact they are very hard, however, you have a lot more chances if that is your goal, compared to paper magic where you can attend only a few ptqs per season)
If you are playing Magic to hang out with friends, etc.. than paper is a much better option imo, and I've only really played paper this year... compared to last year where I played almost exclusively magic online other than regionals/nationals
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If you are relatively new, definitely go paper magic, online is not the way to start unless you got buddies on it already. The social aspect is huge for motivation and for learning, along with free cards and stuff.
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On November 06 2010 05:31 Judicator wrote:
If you are relatively new, definitely go paper magic, online is not the way to start unless you got buddies on it already. The social aspect is huge for motivation and for learning, along with free cards and stuff.
Well, I'm new to the new sets and to the local scene, but I'm not new to the game, per sé. I was just thinking of going with MTGO out of convenience - the only big shop "near" me is 35 minutes away if there's no traffic... Plus, I seem to end up spending too much money on paper magic too, since I love to get all of the custom sleeves, decent binders, dice, counters... you get the picture ;-)
Anybody play in the Chicago TCG scene at all? I used to go to Pastimes when it was back in Glenview, but I've only been to the new store twice, tops.
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was playing with my friends blue/white t2 planeswalker control deck and was curious. if the 2 different jaces ar eout ( the 3 drop and 4 drop) do they legend rule themselves? if so i assume its the same for other PW even with different color CC (mono white ajani and red/white ajani). would make sense that so many ppl here run several copys of jace just to legend out the mind sculptor
edit: ok figured this out. btw seeing as teferi was one of my fav. cards in TSB constructed hoping they make a PW version of him ^^
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On November 06 2010 12:42 sung_moon wrote:
was playing with my friends blue/white t2 planeswalker control deck and was curious. if the 2 different jaces ar eout ( the 3 drop and 4 drop) do they legend rule themselves? if so i assume its the same for other PW even with different color CC (mono white ajani and red/white ajani). would make sense that so many ppl here run several copys of jace just to legend out the mind sculptor
edit: ok figured this out. btw seeing as teferi was one of my fav. cards in TSB constructed hoping they make a PW version of him ^^
yeah looks like you figured it out, but pretty much the primary reason for decks running little jace is to legend rule, as well as just being a good card as well..
also, I like the UW deck with the white titan, come into play, get little jace from grave is pretty nice imo
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On November 06 2010 12:42 sung_moon wrote:
was playing with my friends blue/white t2 planeswalker control deck and was curious. if the 2 different jaces ar eout ( the 3 drop and 4 drop) do they legend rule themselves? if so i assume its the same for other PW even with different color CC (mono white ajani and red/white ajani). would make sense that so many ppl here run several copys of jace just to legend out the mind sculptor
edit: ok figured this out. btw seeing as teferi was one of my fav. cards in TSB constructed hoping they make a PW version of him ^^
Oh hell Teferi, now THAT was fun. Block Constructed was good enough, but T2 with Dralnu... my God.
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On November 06 2010 12:42 sung_moon wrote:
was playing with my friends blue/white t2 planeswalker control deck and was curious. if the 2 different jaces ar eout ( the 3 drop and 4 drop) do they legend rule themselves? if so i assume its the same for other PW even with different color CC (mono white ajani and red/white ajani). would make sense that so many ppl here run several copys of jace just to legend out the mind sculptor
edit: ok figured this out. btw seeing as teferi was one of my fav. cards in TSB constructed hoping they make a PW version of him ^^
To clarify, they get put into their owners graveyards because they share the same subtype, "Ajani" or "Jace" in this case, not because they share a card name like the legend rule.
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Noob questions:
If you use a journey to nowhere on a creature with a totem armor, does the armor go to the graveyard or does the card get exhiled with the totem armor? Likewise, if you exile a creature with an equipment with journey to nowhere does the equipment stay on or does it come off and stay on the battlefield?
If you have a totem armor on a regenerate creature and you regenerate, do you keep the totem armor?
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On November 07 2010 08:23 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
If you use a journey to nowhere on a creature with a totem armor, does the armor go to the graveyard or does the card get exhiled with the totem armor? Likewise, if you exile a creature with an equipment with journey to nowhere does the equipment stay on or does it come off and stay on the battlefield?
The enchantment goes to the graveyard. If the permanent an aura is enchanting leaves the battlefield, unless otherwise stated, it goes to your graveyard.
EDIT: Similarly, the equipment would stay on the battlefield.
On November 07 2010 08:23 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
If you have a totem armor on a regenerate creature and you regenerate, do you keep the totem armor?
Since you control both replacement effects, it's your choice. You probably want to keep the aura, but that might not always be the case. The first reason that comes to mind is that regeneration causes the regenerated creature to be tapped, while Totem Armor doesn't, and you need a blocker to prevent your opponent from swinging for lethal.
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On November 07 2010 09:06 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:23 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
If you use a journey to nowhere on a creature with a totem armor, does the armor go to the graveyard or does the card get exhiled with the totem armor? Likewise, if you exile a creature with an equipment with journey to nowhere does the equipment stay on or does it come off and stay on the battlefield? The enchantment goes to the graveyard. If the permanent an aura is enchanting leaves the battlefield, unless otherwise stated, it goes to your graveyard. Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:23 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
If you have a totem armor on a regenerate creature and you regenerate, do you keep the totem armor? Since you control both replacement effects, it's your choice. You probably want to keep the aura, but that might not always be the case.
i forget how complicated magic actually is. after awhile you just get a sense for the rules.
on a sidenote, just did a 5man draft and it was AWKWARD. you had to take into account that you were going to wheel like 3 playables from each pack and not see very many packs. went into green red early cause i picked up some good removal. switched into white green splash red removal since white was WIDE open. sword of body and mind won me less games than just swingin with darksteel axed shikari
good thing i didnt go against the one infect guy because 3/4s of my removal was for artifacts >_<
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I purchased Duels of the Planeswalker and all of the expansions on steam, and boy do I feel like a total fool. I assumed this was what people used to play online, turns out.. no, no it's not, so don't get it.
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On November 09 2010 07:32 Pellucidity wrote:
I purchased Duels of the Planeswalker and all of the expansions on steam, and boy do I feel like a total fool. I assumed this was what people used to play online, turns out.. no, no it's not, so don't get it.
sorry it's pretty much starter decks =(, with no real deck building features..
you should check out magic workstation, or Magic Online
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More like a collection of draft decks.
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On November 06 2010 12:42 sung_moon wrote:
was playing with my friends blue/white t2 planeswalker control deck and was curious. if the 2 different jaces ar eout ( the 3 drop and 4 drop) do they legend rule themselves? if so i assume its the same for other PW even with different color CC (mono white ajani and red/white ajani). would make sense that so many ppl here run several copys of jace just to legend out the mind sculptor
edit: ok figured this out. btw seeing as teferi was one of my fav. cards in TSB constructed hoping they make a PW version of him ^^
I just went back home to Spokane for the first time in a while and we played MTGO all night. I have loved magic forever and used to be very good. Dralnu and Teferi were sick. I loved that deck sooo much. Also the current standard format is really fun to play except to play blue you need a 100 dollar card which is retarded.
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You know the best part about Jace 2? The fact that I need cards from the WWK set and everywhere is out of it and fucktard Jace 2 runs the price up of the remaining boxes by like a good 30-40 bucks. I got a few places to try around town before I make a decision.
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On November 09 2010 07:37 BraveGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 07:32 Pellucidity wrote:
I purchased Duels of the Planeswalker and all of the expansions on steam, and boy do I feel like a total fool. I assumed this was what people used to play online, turns out.. no, no it's not, so don't get it. sorry it's pretty much starter decks =(, with no real deck building features.. you should check out magic workstation, or Magic Online
So I just download magic online and buy cards? What do online boosters cost?
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On November 09 2010 07:56 Judicator wrote:
You know the best part about Jace 2? The fact that I need cards from the WWK set and everywhere is out of it and fucktard Jace 2 runs the price up of the remaining boxes by like a good 30-40 bucks. I got a few places to try around town before I make a decision.
buy singles? the singles prices should be deflated by the fact that everyone just buys the boxes to open jace and manlands.
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On November 09 2010 09:02 Orpheos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 07:56 Judicator wrote:
You know the best part about Jace 2? The fact that I need cards from the WWK set and everywhere is out of it and fucktard Jace 2 runs the price up of the remaining boxes by like a good 30-40 bucks. I got a few places to try around town before I make a decision. buy singles? the singles prices should be deflated by the fact that everyone just buys the boxes to open jace and manlands.
I need manlands and some other cards out of them. I think I opened only 6 packs total from WWK so it would be nice just to open a box to get whatever else I need and I might need.
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Would Inexorable Tide increase Jace's Energy? (little new to magic and not entirely sure about what gets counters and what doesn't)
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