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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
November 26 2011 11:36 GMT
#1121
hi guys, can anyone tell me where i can legally get bg 2?
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
December 23 2011 11:51 GMT
#1122
I think Skyrim killed this thread.

Even though I have Skyrim, I came back to BG2. It shows how great of a masterpiece this is...the game is over 10 years old and I'm still playing it!

Guys, if you tinker with Spells, it's really fun. Make your own spells. I made a level 9 Dragon summoning spell. Or a spell that is very similar to Irenicus's instant kill spell. No save, bypass resistance, overpowered yes, but it's perfect for the demi-god all powerful sorcerer I roleplay as.

If you tinker with Kits, it's a bit harder to do, but edit .2da files using IE. I edited my kensai kit that gives free stoneskin usage many times a day, level 1% magic resist per level, and immunity to death magic, stun, and level drain.

I'm using this kit to solo ascension / scsii. It's incredibly fun :D
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
December 23 2011 12:31 GMT
#1123
On November 26 2011 20:36 B.I.G. wrote:
hi guys, can anyone tell me where i can legally get bg 2?


gog.com

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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 23 2011 12:32 GMT
#1124
On December 23 2011 20:51 GhostOwl wrote:
I think Skyrim killed this thread.

Even though I have Skyrim, I came back to BG2. It shows how great of a masterpiece this is...the game is over 10 years old and I'm still playing it!

Guys, if you tinker with Spells, it's really fun. Make your own spells. I made a level 9 Dragon summoning spell. Or a spell that is very similar to Irenicus's instant kill spell. No save, bypass resistance, overpowered yes, but it's perfect for the demi-god all powerful sorcerer I roleplay as.

If you tinker with Kits, it's a bit harder to do, but edit .2da files using IE. I edited my kensai kit that gives free stoneskin usage many times a day, level 1% magic resist per level, and immunity to death magic, stun, and level drain.

I'm using this kit to solo ascension / scsii. It's incredibly fun :D

Isn't it kinda cheating ? ;p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
December 23 2011 12:45 GMT
#1125
On December 23 2011 21:32 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 20:51 GhostOwl wrote:
I think Skyrim killed this thread.

Even though I have Skyrim, I came back to BG2. It shows how great of a masterpiece this is...the game is over 10 years old and I'm still playing it!

Guys, if you tinker with Spells, it's really fun. Make your own spells. I made a level 9 Dragon summoning spell. Or a spell that is very similar to Irenicus's instant kill spell. No save, bypass resistance, overpowered yes, but it's perfect for the demi-god all powerful sorcerer I roleplay as.

If you tinker with Kits, it's a bit harder to do, but edit .2da files using IE. I edited my kensai kit that gives free stoneskin usage many times a day, level 1% magic resist per level, and immunity to death magic, stun, and level drain.

I'm using this kit to solo ascension / scsii. It's incredibly fun :D

Isn't it kinda cheating ? ;p


The Irenicus spell is cheating.

The kit is not. Playing as a normal kensai with no ascension / scsii with a party is much easier than soloing with a improved kensai kit with ascension/scsii. Mages in scsii are just insane. I see a lich every freaking dungeon I go to
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
February 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#1126
I've just embarked on a LAN revival Baldur'Gate playthrough with a friend. We plan to go from BG1 until the end of the Bhaal Saga with some tactics and additional content mods.

We will each play only one character. Started with a multi thief-mage and a multi fighter-cleric. SCS is hard! We couldn't even kill Silke! Apparently she is around lvl8...

What is great about this game is that we don't have to look at it through our nostalgia goggles. It as great now as it was 10 years ago!
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 13 2012 22:06 GMT
#1127
guys quick question. i am making a kensai mage *i heard it was newb friendly) and i have 6 proficiency points to use. do i put 5 into katana and one into dual wield? thanks! just found out about this and looks good so far!
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:48:06
February 14 2012 00:44 GMT
#1128
On February 14 2012 07:06 Golgotha wrote:
guys quick question. i am making a kensai mage *i heard it was newb friendly) and i have 6 proficiency points to use. do i put 5 into katana and one into dual wield? thanks! just found out about this and looks good so far!

dual wielding in this game gives you gigantic penalties on to-hit throws.
also, you need a small weapon in your off-hand or it will be even worse than the main hand or whatever it's called.

As far as i recall, it only gave 1(!) bonus attack per round?
Of course thats still 1 more than normal, and a kensai wouldn't use a shield anyway.
But until it's maxed out (-2, -2 TAC0 with a small off-hand?), you'd probably be better of using only 1 weapon.

disregard all this in case the kensai had some random dual wield bonus. I basicly only played monks for fighter types in BG2.


Anyway: if you are completly new, i'd disregard dualclassing. Fighter types are probably easiest to start with, but anything single-class can get you through the game without much chance of getting stuck due to ie bad lvling choices in the multiclass.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 03:05:01
February 14 2012 03:03 GMT
#1129
On February 14 2012 09:44 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:06 Golgotha wrote:
guys quick question. i am making a kensai mage *i heard it was newb friendly) and i have 6 proficiency points to use. do i put 5 into katana and one into dual wield? thanks! just found out about this and looks good so far!

dual wielding in this game gives you gigantic penalties on to-hit throws.
also, you need a small weapon in your off-hand or it will be even worse than the main hand or whatever it's called.

As far as i recall, it only gave 1(!) bonus attack per round?
Of course thats still 1 more than normal, and a kensai wouldn't use a shield anyway.
But until it's maxed out (-2, -2 TAC0 with a small off-hand?), you'd probably be better of using only 1 weapon.

disregard all this in case the kensai had some random dual wield bonus. I basicly only played monks for fighter types in BG2.


Anyway: if you are completly new, i'd disregard dualclassing. Fighter types are probably easiest to start with, but anything single-class can get you through the game without much chance of getting stuck due to ie bad lvling choices in the multiclass.


thank you. after reading a bit more this game seems very complicating. I do not understand many of these D and D terms. Very different from modern rpgs I am used to. Is there a guide that can be helpful for a complete newbie?

edit: damn was confused why imoen couldnt cast her spells. turns out mages cant wear armor when casting. wtf very interesting!
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 11:10:45
February 14 2012 10:40 GMT
#1130
well i just started bg2 again. Last time i rage quitted at some point cus tactics mod made it near impossible to proceed at some instance in the game and i just got fed up with it. I hope i didnt make the same mistake cus i installed SCSii lol. I had to reinstall the mod without the "tougher starting area." I made a pure mage and spammed all my spells. Turns out you cant rest with this mod lol.

Anyways i had a specific question how do you use the "ease-of-use AI" mod? I picked it for all my chars, but duno how to toggle the different settings. Pushing S like it says doesnt change anything for auto buffing.

actually scratch that it started working all of a sudden
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
February 14 2012 10:47 GMT
#1131
I just found the Manual that came with my version of the game when i first bought it. 160 pages folio , description for all the spells , background for the characters, and a lot of tablets for just about everything.

Damn , modern games sure do suck.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10761 Posts
February 14 2012 10:55 GMT
#1132
On February 14 2012 07:06 Golgotha wrote:
guys quick question. i am making a kensai mage *i heard it was newb friendly) and i have 6 proficiency points to use. do i put 5 into katana and one into dual wield? thanks! just found out about this and looks good so far!


Dual wilding is strong WHEN you skill it, else you shouldn't do it.


Kensai/Mage is very powerfull but NOT easy. This is a huge diffrence in BG2.

Easy are Warriors, Barbarians, Monks, Rangers and Thieves... Most other classes just "smack you over the head with a giant spellbook" . If you want to dig into it, go for something that can cast.. But if it's your first AD&D game i would go with something "easy".
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
February 14 2012 11:07 GMT
#1133
guys quick question. i am making a kensai mage *i heard it was newb friendly) and i have 6 proficiency points to use. do i put 5 into katana and one into dual wield? thanks! just found out about this and looks good so far!


A Kensai/Mage is very dependant on equipment , so for a beginner who might not know how to get things like Celestial Fury , Robe of Vecna or the Ring of Gaxx its not an ideal choice. It has already been mentioned that fighters are a good starter class since they play pretty straigth up. I also feel that Clerics are good for newbies , you dont have to find spell scrolls , and you can summon some pretty overpowerd monsters later. (improved skeletons , air servant , deva)
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
February 14 2012 11:29 GMT
#1134
Indeed a Kensai/mage is a very powerful yet not so easy to play character. The easier way to play this game is with a straight role character, like a pure fighter or a powerful fireball hurling mage. Buffing-defensive spells from a kensai-mage are much more complicated to use.

P.S. My personal favourite is the Ranger dualled to cleric character :D Iron Skins for the win!
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
February 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1135
P.S. My personal favourite is the Ranger dualled to cleric character :D Iron Skins for the win!


Ranger/Cleric is pretty op, dualwielding flail of ages and crom fayer. Its also pretty easy to solo with that kind of combination
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 14 2012 16:06 GMT
#1136
I soloed with both Barbarian and Druid (werewolf kit). It is easy once you finished the game couple of times and know what to expect
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
February 14 2012 16:09 GMT
#1137
You guys need to whip out an Avenger.

Chromatic Orb with a chance to petrify!!!!!!

fucking love chromatic orb
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 17:08:06
February 14 2012 16:56 GMT
#1138
xD oldschool stoneskin spam was so OP

reminds me of how much i hate later installations of DnD, as in Icewind Dale 2 and Neverwinter Nights 1+

On February 14 2012 12:03 Golgotha wrote:


thank you. after reading a bit more this game seems very complicating. I do not understand many of these D and D terms. Very different from modern rpgs I am used to. Is there a guide that can be helpful for a complete newbie?

edit: damn was confused why imoen couldnt cast her spells. turns out mages cant wear armor when casting. wtf very interesting!

Yes, the system is very restrictive.
What you just found out is exactly the reason why kensai/mage is a good combo, though.

Min/maxing was a fun thing for me to do in the given rules; others find their fun playing in less than ideal combinations (or even with some terribly bad stats).
However; the first playthrough in general was very entertaining for me; all before i started messing around and optimizing things.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 14 2012 17:16 GMT
#1139
On February 15 2012 01:56 snow2.0 wrote:
xD oldschool stoneskin spam was so OP

reminds me of how much i hate later installations of DnD, as in Icewind Dale 2 and Neverwinter Nights 1+

IIRC IWD2 still used the 2nd Ed spell lists/implementations.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 15 2012 02:56 GMT
#1140
thanks folks! imma just start with a fighter for my first game. the game seems complex, especially the magic skills as there are so many and i have no idea what each does and how effective they are.

is the game strategic? if I do not cast the correct spells and make the correct move (just playing blindly by attacking with attack spells and weapons), will I not get far? I hope so, i am tired of easy cookie cutter rpgs.
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