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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:25 Deadlyhazard wrote: Any Team Liquid guilds on Northern Shiverpeaks? Throw out an invite to Lethalhazard. I'm a 76 warrior. That server sounds familiar... aren't you guys fighting against Blackgate in WvWvW? I'm on Blackgate and your server founds familiar  | ||
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sekalf
Sweden522 Posts
Theres a couple things Ive been wondering about, and I figured you guys probably knew the answers (since the tl community is awesome). First; is there some way to see the health (in numbers) on the target health bar? And second; is there some way to see the in-game latency? | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On September 02 2012 09:56 sekalf wrote: I just started playing gw2 and Im really liking it so far! Theres a couple things Ive been wondering about, and I figured you guys probably knew the answers (since the tl community is awesome). First; is there some way to see the health (in numbers) on the target health bar? And second; is there some way to see the in-game latency? no and no | ||
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topoulo
253 Posts
they can patch it as long as they want their core mechanics blow. for starters is too noobfriendly with a steep learning curve , there isnt actually much to learn since only hting matters atm is , damage everything else are pointless. Defensive cooldowns - abilities - heals - cc all are a joke dumb down for the average noob. You cant have the simpliest of tactics - apart some ae root spam whirlind or other gimmics - due to the lack off proper crowd control and immune timers. you cant poke - push you cant do shit rly cause tanks die like instantly and there no solid healers to back them up. As for wvsw it feels and is pointless since the benefits are minimal to nothing and in now way promotes as open world pvp - Daoc is still king after 12+ years for that. too bad the only decent mmorpg pvp will be pandaria which it has solid mechanics - like vanilla wow - but with the same ol same bs bgs and arerna . If , however you are a noob happy spammer who likes zerg its the game for you . | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:37 Morfildur wrote: WvWvW depends a lot on informing everyone of what is happening. If you just go somewhere and expect others to magically be there, it won't work. However, if you say something like "Hey, there is an undefended supply camp at X, lets take it", some players will go there and try to capture it with you. If you say "There is a group X of enemies near Y moving towards Z" then your allies will go to Z and defend it. I luckily had experience from LotRO Monsterbattles which is very similar, so i have some experience with telling people what they need and want to know. You won't ever get everyone to go somewhere but if you give everyone some information, some of them will react to it and others will follow. However, it can get really annoying if your server is far weaker than the other 2. i've been on stormbluff isles the entire time, and rolling wth 2-4 other players in a sort of squad/party in WvWvW has been the most fun aspect of the game for me so far. we just call out targets who are seemingly out of position and rush them down,or set up a condition trap. get a commander buff, and people zerg on with you. the normals here on stormbluff pretty much know when it's a good time to set up a real siege or pull away from the enemy zerg. as long as you have a group of people to play it with, it seems pretty fun to me | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:22 topoulo wrote: Gw2 is a disappointment from a pvp perspective. they can patch it as long as they want their core mechanics blow. for starters is too noobfriendly with a steep learning curve , there isnt actually much to learn since only hting matters atm is , damage everything else are pointless. Defensive cooldowns - abilities - heals - cc all are a joke dumb down for the average noob. You cant have the simpliest of tactics - apart some ae root spam whirlind or other gimmics - due to the lack off proper crowd control and immune timers. you cant poke - push you cant do shit rly cause tanks die like instantly and there no solid healers to back them up. As for wvsw it feels and is pointless since the benefits are minimal to nothing and in now way promotes as open world pvp - Daoc is still king after 12+ years for that. too bad the only decent mmorpg pvp will be pandaria which it has solid mechanics - like vanilla wow - but with the same ol same bs bgs and arerna . If , however you are a noob happy spammer who likes zerg its the game for you . You sound disappointed. Is this normal logic if alot of people like a game and then someone doesnt like it there has to be something wrong with everyone that likes it? People that like GW2 = noob happy spammers? Ok o.O lol WvW has depth just people dont know how to play it yet at least on Ehmry Bay though it is getting better. People aren't capturing supply routes, getting siege weapons, cutting off reinforcements, placing defenses at the proper point. I like WvW alot at first I thought it was just Zerg which it kind of is but siege weapons allow you to defend if your outnumbered. Its soo cool when you look like your going to lose a Castle or keep and reinforcements arrive. Things like back passage ways to different objectives. Taking the water route to the underground entrance to Dark Havens garrison was good. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:22 topoulo wrote: Gw2 is a disappointment from a pvp perspective. they can patch it as long as they want their core mechanics blow. for starters is too noobfriendly with a steep learning curve , there isnt actually much to learn since only hting matters atm is , damage everything else are pointless. Defensive cooldowns - abilities - heals - cc all are a joke dumb down for the average noob. You cant have the simpliest of tactics - apart some ae root spam whirlind or other gimmics - due to the lack off proper crowd control and immune timers. you cant poke - push you cant do shit rly cause tanks die like instantly and there no solid healers to back them up. As for wvsw it feels and is pointless since the benefits are minimal to nothing and in now way promotes as open world pvp - Daoc is still king after 12+ years for that. too bad the only decent mmorpg pvp will be pandaria which it has solid mechanics - like vanilla wow - but with the same ol same bs bgs and arerna . If , however you are a noob happy spammer who likes zerg its the game for you . Noob friendly but with a steep learning curve? What's wrong with that? That translates into "Easy to learn, hard to master." And I fail to see the problem there. A skilled player will take out someone who just spams abilities on cooldown, but at the same time if you're just a casual noob you can spam your abilities on cooldown and at least make a dent and not be a complete bane to your team. Again, I fail to see the problem here. No need for the elitist attitude. I hate to sound aggressive here, but if you think only damage abilities matter and all the support or defensive ccs are useless noob fodder, then well, you're probably the one who's the noob. Again, you can spam these abilities and get some use out of them, but timing is key. Using defensive cds when your opponent buffs up. Saving condition clears for when you get hit with a Signet of Spite. In group battles especially, what boons and conditions are used, and against who, makes a huge difference. And don't even get me started on combo abilities, which everyone seems to ignore. And I think people have a warped definition of crowd control. GW2 has lots of snares and debilitating debuffs that will turn the tide of a fight. Let me say right here that I don't know who at Blizzard thinks its fun to be constantly out of control of your character, but it fucking isn't. I played all healers in WoW, and getting CC trained wasn't at all enjoyable. Not to mention the standardized gear removes the whole gear!=skill crap you put up with in WoW. GW2 PvP isn't bad because it doesn't have 10 second CCs and healers that take 20 minutes to kill. It might be bad for a different reason, but it sure as hell ain't that. It's just different. The intricacies of the combat revolve around different things now. Adapt and learn to min max your use of conditions and support abilities (and *gasp* coordinate with your team and set up combos and such) or don't, and go back to WoW. And enjoy your....Resilience? And...PvP Power? Hmm... As for WvWvW, I'll agree with you that I wish there was a more "traditional" world PvP (I do miss pre-BG WoW) but WvWvW is still fun as all hell. And yeah the benefits are small, but thats not the primary reason for doing it. You should play games because you enjoy them. My favorite thing about GW2, regardless of whether or not it's gameplay pans out in the long run, is the removal of the gear treadmill. Playing the game and enjoying it is it's own reward. If you don't have fun playing the game, stop. You're not paying a monthly fee or anything. And if you change your mind and come back later, hey, you won't be like a cave man going up against a 21st century military. | ||
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Fawkes
Canada1935 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:22 topoulo wrote: Gw2 is a disappointment from a pvp perspective. they can patch it as long as they want their core mechanics blow. for starters is too noobfriendly with a steep learning curve , there isnt actually much to learn since only hting matters atm is , damage everything else are pointless. Defensive cooldowns - abilities - heals - cc all are a joke dumb down for the average noob. You cant have the simpliest of tactics - apart some ae root spam whirlind or other gimmics - due to the lack off proper crowd control and immune timers. you cant poke - push you cant do shit rly cause tanks die like instantly and there no solid healers to back them up. As for wvsw it feels and is pointless since the benefits are minimal to nothing and in now way promotes as open world pvp - Daoc is still king after 12+ years for that. too bad the only decent mmorpg pvp will be pandaria which it has solid mechanics - like vanilla wow - but with the same ol same bs bgs and arerna . If , however you are a noob happy spammer who likes zerg its the game for you . uhh...you don't exactly die instantly if you don't spec glass cannon... | ||
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Br33zyy
United States296 Posts
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curreh
Australia265 Posts
Also does anybody know a good place where I can buy a key online? The official website is out of stock to ease server load but they said you can still buy from other retailers. I thought I had found a good one to buy but my friend told me it was actually a european key. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On September 02 2012 11:20 Fawkes wrote: uhh...you don't exactly die instantly if you don't spec glass cannon... I was reading this, but i realised it was probably a load of bull when he came out with his Daoc comment, he doesnt seem like the sort of person to be old enough for Daoc, hell, even im not. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:22 topoulo wrote: Gw2 is a disappointment from a pvp perspective. they can patch it as long as they want their core mechanics blow. for starters is too noobfriendly with a steep learning curve , there isnt actually much to learn since only hting matters atm is , damage everything else are pointless. Defensive cooldowns - abilities - heals - cc all are a joke dumb down for the average noob. You cant have the simpliest of tactics - apart some ae root spam whirlind or other gimmics - due to the lack off proper crowd control and immune timers. you cant poke - push you cant do shit rly cause tanks die like instantly and there no solid healers to back them up. As for wvsw it feels and is pointless since the benefits are minimal to nothing and in now way promotes as open world pvp - Daoc is still king after 12+ years for that. too bad the only decent mmorpg pvp will be pandaria which it has solid mechanics - like vanilla wow - but with the same ol same bs bgs and arerna . If , however you are a noob happy spammer who likes zerg its the game for you . Lunia actually still has the best MMORPG PvP  Also I think you're overreacting, the game's only been out for a short time after all, and I'm sure it'll be easy to stand out if you're good enough. I dislike the delay on just about every skill though, prefer the way Lunia does things (Again huehue) | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On September 02 2012 12:17 Br33zyy wrote: Anyone know how long the Black Lion Trade will be down for? I don't think there's a guaranteed ETA... they keep turning it on and off throughout the days. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On September 02 2012 09:24 Silentness wrote: That server sounds familiar... aren't you guys fighting against Blackgate in WvWvW? I'm on Blackgate and your server founds familiar Yes we've been stomping hardcore every server we're faced against, doubling and tripling the other 2 servers scores, combined. Now this WvWvW is the most balanced we've ever had, mostly because its a 1v2 with you guys just ganging up on our stuff and not really attacking each other lol. | ||
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
On September 02 2012 10:22 topoulo wrote: Gw2 is a disappointment from a pvp perspective. they can patch it as long as they want their core mechanics blow. for starters is too noobfriendly with a steep learning curve , there isnt actually much to learn since only hting matters atm is , damage everything else are pointless. Defensive cooldowns - abilities - heals - cc all are a joke dumb down for the average noob. You cant have the simpliest of tactics - apart some ae root spam whirlind or other gimmics - due to the lack off proper crowd control and immune timers. you cant poke - push you cant do shit rly cause tanks die like instantly and there no solid healers to back them up. As for wvsw it feels and is pointless since the benefits are minimal to nothing and in now way promotes as open world pvp - Daoc is still king after 12+ years for that. too bad the only decent mmorpg pvp will be pandaria which it has solid mechanics - like vanilla wow - but with the same ol same bs bgs and arerna . If , however you are a noob happy spammer who likes zerg its the game for you . PvP mechanics don't need to be amazingly complex for a fun pvp experience, look at League of Legends, it's essentially a childs game but when you put teamwork in the equation it becomes a very skillfull game. Sounds like you are just mad this isn't wow. | ||
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Zidane
United States1689 Posts
From last night WvW on Ehmry Bay. | ||
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curreh
Australia265 Posts
On September 02 2012 17:49 Zidane wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tub3fg5-1bA From last night WvW on Ehmry Bay. Love the music : ) thought I would ask your opinion, do you think an elementalist would be viable in pvp with high australian latency? trying to figure out what class I should play that suits having a bit of lag in pvp  | ||
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Arirtor
China76 Posts
add me to guild on ehmry bay please :D The whole first line i typed is my name. I konw its long. hehe | ||
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
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