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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
July 31 2012 08:34 GMT
#3601
On July 31 2012 08:11 Zidane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:56 Monokeros wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:25 crms wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:23 Monokeros wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:19 crms wrote:
I don't think you get the race passives in pvp so the movement speed might not be as important as you think.

I could be very wrong about this though.. I think I read that somewhere though.

It's not a race passive this is a skill ALL thiefs can possess, also there aren't any racial passives in this game only race specific skills.

I dun goofed. The race skills aren't usable in pvp though, right?

pretty sure they are...I'm not aware of any restrictions in that area there was a discussion in the wiki with it recently and there hasn't been any concrete evidence in disabling/enabling skills in a PvP/PvE only fashion.



Racial skills can't be used in PvP lol.

yeah sorry that's right I didn't look it up hard enough and it makes sense too, good thing there aren't any racial skills I have my eye on haha all of the thief skills are so dang good.
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Devilldog
Profile Joined October 2010
United States69 Posts
July 31 2012 18:37 GMT
#3602
On July 31 2012 08:23 Skyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:10 repomaniak wrote:
just noobish questions

i have question GW2/Tera related
GW2 was supposted to be an action MMORPG that Tera is

is GW2 really an action mmorpg? i saw that system is really WOWlike with tabing and cklicking on mobs to do something am i missing something?

and what about GW2 quests? are there really only spontanious quests that u enconuter randomly when you explore the world?



You can tab target stuff but it doesn't guarantee you can hit them. For example you can be strafting in one direction and then when your enemy shoots a projectile you can juke it be strafing the other direction and dodge it (depending on the distance and speed of projectile of course) since auto-targetting tries to predict where your opponent will be. The game uses true line-of-sight so you can also hide behind stuff AFTER the projectile is fired and won't get hit. You can turn off tab-targetting as well in options and manually aim stuff as well. You can think of tab-tagetting in GW2 as an option (e.g. noob-friendly) instead of a requirement. I think once people get better and better the less they will use tab-targetting (for pvp of course), especially meele classes.

As for quests there are the basic questgivers (they are all marked on your map, no need to search for them) and then random quests will occur every now and again in pre-designated areas (similar to Rift or Warhammer Online if you played those games). There are also other things like hidden areas on each map (which give xp) and if you complete every objective (quests, dynamic quests, hidden areas, etc.) on the map you'll get a big bonus for that as well.


There is actually nothing random about the events. All events are stuck on a chain with several different phases, they never reset or just happen out of nowhere.
And to be honest i have never hit tab once in all 3 weekends. You simply hit what is in front of you if you don't use it. (keep in mind i played melee classes all 3 weekends)
Skyro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1823 Posts
July 31 2012 19:01 GMT
#3603
On August 01 2012 03:37 Devilldog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:23 Skyro wrote:
On July 31 2012 08:10 repomaniak wrote:
just noobish questions

i have question GW2/Tera related
GW2 was supposted to be an action MMORPG that Tera is

is GW2 really an action mmorpg? i saw that system is really WOWlike with tabing and cklicking on mobs to do something am i missing something?

and what about GW2 quests? are there really only spontanious quests that u enconuter randomly when you explore the world?



You can tab target stuff but it doesn't guarantee you can hit them. For example you can be strafting in one direction and then when your enemy shoots a projectile you can juke it be strafing the other direction and dodge it (depending on the distance and speed of projectile of course) since auto-targetting tries to predict where your opponent will be. The game uses true line-of-sight so you can also hide behind stuff AFTER the projectile is fired and won't get hit. You can turn off tab-targetting as well in options and manually aim stuff as well. You can think of tab-tagetting in GW2 as an option (e.g. noob-friendly) instead of a requirement. I think once people get better and better the less they will use tab-targetting (for pvp of course), especially meele classes.

As for quests there are the basic questgivers (they are all marked on your map, no need to search for them) and then random quests will occur every now and again in pre-designated areas (similar to Rift or Warhammer Online if you played those games). There are also other things like hidden areas on each map (which give xp) and if you complete every objective (quests, dynamic quests, hidden areas, etc.) on the map you'll get a big bonus for that as well.


There is actually nothing random about the events. All events are stuck on a chain with several different phases, they never reset or just happen out of nowhere.
And to be honest i have never hit tab once in all 3 weekends. You simply hit what is in front of you if you don't use it. (keep in mind i played melee classes all 3 weekends)


Yes that is correct that is a much explaination than the one I provided
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 23:05:43
July 31 2012 22:52 GMT
#3604
Oops, wrong Guild wars thread.
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
August 01 2012 01:54 GMT
#3605
On July 31 2012 08:11 Zidane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 07:56 Monokeros wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:25 crms wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:23 Monokeros wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:19 crms wrote:
I don't think you get the race passives in pvp so the movement speed might not be as important as you think.

I could be very wrong about this though.. I think I read that somewhere though.

It's not a race passive this is a skill ALL thiefs can possess, also there aren't any racial passives in this game only race specific skills.

I dun goofed. The race skills aren't usable in pvp though, right?

pretty sure they are...I'm not aware of any restrictions in that area there was a discussion in the wiki with it recently and there hasn't been any concrete evidence in disabling/enabling skills in a PvP/PvE only fashion.



Racial skills can't be used in PvP lol.


So all the sylvari roots that were entangling me 30% of the time i played last bwe, what was that if not a racial skill?
neohero9
Profile Joined May 2010
United States595 Posts
August 01 2012 02:07 GMT
#3606
On August 01 2012 10:54 chaokel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:11 Zidane wrote:
Racial skills can't be used in PvP lol.


So all the sylvari roots that were entangling me 30% of the time i played last bwe, what was that if not a racial skill?


Racials can't be used in sPVP. I believe they can be used in WvW.
I cannot stand ignorance or dismissiveness. I edit every post I make-- I've edited this sig three times in an hour.
minilance
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
August 01 2012 20:33 GMT
#3607
two things:
1. there is a stress test tomorow:
We will be conducting a stress test on Thursday, August 2 from 12:00 Noon PACIFIC Time to 4:00 PM PACIFIC Time. Unlike previous stress tests, we will be actively working on the game during the event, so you might experience connectivity problems or discover features that are not working as designed. Any issues you experience are a result of the rigorous conditions of the stress test, and are in no way representative of the state of the game at launch. By participating in this stress test, you’re helping us make Guild Wars 2 a better game. Thanks for your cooperation—we’ll see you in-game! ~RB2

2. i did the second beta weekend, do i need to redownload everything to play the stress test ?
Bisu, Jangbang <3
Sky_
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada116 Posts
August 01 2012 20:58 GMT
#3608
On August 02 2012 05:33 minilance wrote:
two things:
1. there is a stress test tomorow:
We will be conducting a stress test on Thursday, August 2 from 12:00 Noon PACIFIC Time to 4:00 PM PACIFIC Time. Unlike previous stress tests, we will be actively working on the game during the event, so you might experience connectivity problems or discover features that are not working as designed. Any issues you experience are a result of the rigorous conditions of the stress test, and are in no way representative of the state of the game at launch. By participating in this stress test, you’re helping us make Guild Wars 2 a better game. Thanks for your cooperation—we’ll see you in-game! ~RB2

2. i did the second beta weekend, do i need to redownload everything to play the stress test ?


No, you don't need to redownload anything, mabye a minor patch, but nothing too major :D.

LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 21:02:48
August 01 2012 21:01 GMT
#3609
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2012 05:33 minilance wrote:
two things:
1. there is a stress test tomorow:
We will be conducting a stress test on Thursday, August 2 from 12:00 Noon PACIFIC Time to 4:00 PM PACIFIC Time. Unlike previous stress tests, we will be actively working on the game during the event, so you might experience connectivity problems or discover features that are not working as designed. Any issues you experience are a result of the rigorous conditions of the stress test, and are in no way representative of the state of the game at launch. By participating in this stress test, you’re helping us make Guild Wars 2 a better game. Thanks for your cooperation—we’ll see you in-game! ~RB2

2. i did the second beta weekend, do i need to redownload everything to play the stress test ?

Ninja'd^
+ Show Spoiler +
Only if you deleted your game, but if you didn't play on the 3rd beta weekend you probably have a small update extra to do. Thanks for the knowledge about the stress test ^>^.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
August 02 2012 01:13 GMT
#3610
I think the beta client is the same as the release client outside of patches is it not? if you plan to play and don't have a full hard drive I don't see any reason to delete the game files at this point. I could be wrong about the client though.
minilance
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
August 02 2012 05:40 GMT
#3611
thks for the info guys
Bisu, Jangbang <3
Louis8k8
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 15:24:17
August 02 2012 15:18 GMT
#3612
On August 02 2012 10:13 Esoterikk wrote:
I think the beta client is the same as the release client outside of patches is it not? if you plan to play and don't have a full hard drive I don't see any reason to delete the game files at this point. I could be wrong about the client though.

According to the first email I got for pre-ordering back in I-don't-know-when, they said the launcher/patcher what-not was their temporary half-assed version of the game for us testers. So I'm going to assume the full-release is a completely different setup.

Does anyone know when they mail the game? Because I put my address as my friend's place. I hope it's before 3-day pre-release. I don't want to start downloading 15~20GB of files because they mail the game after release date.

*EDIT: No, I just checked the link they gave me on one of the first emails I got and it no longer says that they were giving us a temporary crude way of running the game. So I don't know.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
August 02 2012 19:19 GMT
#3613
YOU CAN FINALLY SEE YOUR DIFFERENT KEYBINDS ON THE BAR

YES

ABOUT TIME
Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 19:50:53
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3614
On August 01 2012 10:54 chaokel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:11 Zidane wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:56 Monokeros wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:25 crms wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:23 Monokeros wrote:
On July 31 2012 07:19 crms wrote:
I don't think you get the race passives in pvp so the movement speed might not be as important as you think.

I could be very wrong about this though.. I think I read that somewhere though.

It's not a race passive this is a skill ALL thiefs can possess, also there aren't any racial passives in this game only race specific skills.

I dun goofed. The race skills aren't usable in pvp though, right?

pretty sure they are...I'm not aware of any restrictions in that area there was a discussion in the wiki with it recently and there hasn't been any concrete evidence in disabling/enabling skills in a PvP/PvE only fashion.



Racial skills can't be used in PvP lol.


So all the sylvari roots that were entangling me 30% of the time i played last bwe, what was that if not a racial skill?


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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 23:03:27
August 02 2012 22:45 GMT
#3615
http://www.twitch.tv/esoterikk

Streaming this right now, music on doing WvW

*edit* and it's over. Will be streaming again during launch, streaming random games in meantime ^_^
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
August 03 2012 00:37 GMT
#3616
On August 03 2012 04:19 Candadar wrote:
YOU CAN FINALLY SEE YOUR DIFFERENT KEYBINDS ON THE BAR

YES

ABOUT TIME


Holy fucking shit no way. #1 reason I hated GW2 beta. Whats the point of keybinding my abilities if I can't even see what I keybinded shit too, kinda need to know when I'm learning new to keybind in a brand new game.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
August 03 2012 03:49 GMT
#3617
On August 03 2012 09:37 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:19 Candadar wrote:
YOU CAN FINALLY SEE YOUR DIFFERENT KEYBINDS ON THE BAR

YES

ABOUT TIME


Holy fucking shit no way. #1 reason I hated GW2 beta. Whats the point of keybinding my abilities if I can't even see what I keybinded shit too, kinda need to know when I'm learning new to keybind in a brand new game.


I know right? It even shows my M4 and M5 buttons right :D
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
August 03 2012 03:55 GMT
#3618
It was kinda obvious that it was a bug from the start anyway :D
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
August 03 2012 04:01 GMT
#3619
On August 03 2012 12:55 Firebolt145 wrote:
It was kinda obvious that it was a bug from the start anyway :D


Yeah but I was scared

Also, gamma was really fucked up for some reason.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 04:46:12
August 03 2012 04:45 GMT
#3620
They actually implemented a ton of UI improvements in yesterday's version.
And I think they put legit tool belt skills for turrets, which is, DAYUM good.

Had fun playing as usual but too short T;T, can't wait until the real deal starts...
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