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On April 18 2013 03:37 ryc wrote:I have a question: + Show Spoiler + How come Booker doesn't recognize Comstock as the man who took his baby away?
Answer
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Memories suppressed by the act of crossing dimensions. In the ending, we see that he "manufactured" his initial charge in the game ("Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt") from his old memories of selling Anna to Comstock. Likewise, it isn't until Elizabeth brings him across dimensions and time to the actual moment where Booker gives up Anna that he remember (and as viewers, we consequently know what actually happened).
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So just finished the game and read here to get a lot of answers http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=533205
One question I didn't see answered though was why all the citizens of Columbia look the same (you know the standard guy/female you see everywhere, not the Luteces.) This isn't even a spoiler because it was the first thing I noticed when playing.
Also epic-ness linking to Bioshock 1: (if it's been posted in a spoiler already my apologies)
+ Show Spoiler +For the new page: SONGBIRD IS IN BIOSHOCK 1: You can hear his death cry in Fort Frolic: (at the 14 second mark). For comparison: Booker and Elizabeth were in the Rapture Metro while Jack was dealing with Cohen down in Fort Frolic... MIND. BLOWN.
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On April 13 2013 23:47 Steveling wrote:
Oh well, doesn't change the fact that it's nonsensical.
Not sure you're looking at it the right way. Sliding around on rails firing off a sniper rifle with one hand, + Show Spoiler +a flying city, and you decide that the memory thing is nonsensical
+ Show Spoiler +Also the Vox Populi conflict I just took to show that no matter rich, or poor,, or what color skin they have, if they have power they will abuse it
I think the reason everyone looks the same is because they were lazy and didn't think anyone would notice. Or they could be really smart, and Columbia is made from Bookers passed memories since the two baptism guys are the same. I think it was just laziness though.
Overall, a fantastic game that really immersed me and let me forget about day to day problems for a while. 9/10 for me.
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On April 13 2013 23:12 Fumanchu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 13:31 peekn wrote:
Just finished playing through this game and I have to say that I absolutely loved it. It is without a doubt one of the best games I've ever played. The immersion was amazing, the setting was unique and beautiful for a game, the characters and voice acting were top notch, and the score for the whole game is superb. This game leashed me in and held me at the screen for hours. There were never pacing problems, I never got bored or felt as though a scene or sequence took too long or short. If you buy one game this year this should be the one.
Seems like people in this thread just want to complain and say that the game isn't really that good to be different than the masses, well I have to say that the masses are right about this game, it is truly a 10/10 hands down I have no problem in saying that.
Brilliant game loved every second of it, will play again. I'm not trying to diminish what you felt, but did you play the first two games, or was this your first bioshock experience? It seems like those who haven't played any previous bioshock games love it, and those that have, feel like it's lacklustre.
Personally, I played Bioshock 1 about two thirds through before I stopped playing it completely. It just wasn't fun at all for me. However, I just finished Bioshock Infinite and I have to say that I loved every minute of it. The story and scenery were both amazing. The voice acting was great, the characters were engaging, the game was immersive, the gameplay was good.
9.25/10.
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On April 19 2013 08:07 Jonoman92 wrote:So just finished the game and read here to get a lot of answers http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=533205One question I didn't see answered though was why all the citizens of Columbia look the same (you know the standard guy/female you see everywhere, not the Luteces.) This isn't even a spoiler because it was the first thing I noticed when playing. Also epic-ness linking to Bioshock 1: (if it's been posted in a spoiler already my apologies) + Show Spoiler +
Yeah I noticed the population also within 15 minutes. Identical people everywhere, even the kids are reused. Was it done on purpose?
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it's hard for me to say but I have stopped playing bioshock infinite. The world is just not dark enough for me. I am at the + Show Spoiler + area and it is really boring at the moment.
I think the main issues I have with it are:
the arrow that points you where you need to go is often very confusing when it includes rail lines travel. I thought it's just me that have the problem but it seems my friends also are finding it annoying
Elizabeth constantly teleporting. I wish I was following her so that if she finds something interesting, she would show me. But with me leading the party, sometimes I didn't notice she was looking at things and I cut her short by running too far ahead.
She also doesn't react to a lot of things I do. I can shoot the whole town and she doesn't seem to care at all other than the initial few kills.
Elizabeth not targettable by the enemies, making it feels more like a one man fight with an invincibile ghost's support. Unlike this:
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Elizabeth randomly disturbing herself by offering you items when she is saying something emotional.
I miss bioshock 1 and 2 combat much more.
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On April 19 2013 12:34 Marimokkori wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 08:07 Jonoman92 wrote:So just finished the game and read here to get a lot of answers http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=533205One question I didn't see answered though was why all the citizens of Columbia look the same (you know the standard guy/female you see everywhere, not the Luteces.) This isn't even a spoiler because it was the first thing I noticed when playing. Also epic-ness linking to Bioshock 1: (if it's been posted in a spoiler already my apologies) + Show Spoiler + Yeah I noticed the population also within 15 minutes. Identical people everywhere, even the kids are reused. Was it done on purpose?
Well, at first I was like... hmm this guy looks like the other, why they so lazy! Then I realized all of them were like that. It was 100% done on purpose no question. I mean, just brainstorming here perhaps it has something to do with how + Show Spoiler +Alternate reality Bookers keep repeating the same paths so the unimportant details like random people's faces just blend together...
Earlier on in the game I thought the likeness of all the upper-class seeming citizens being the same was going to be significant in some way like they were clones of the ruling family or something but unless I'm missing something it wasn't really explained (I'm sure someone has figured this out though, will google more tomorrow mayhaps.)
Also, random thing I found amusing was when you aim at Elizabeth she will squirm away trying to get out of your sights and ask you to stop.
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On April 19 2013 13:45 ETisME wrote:
Elizabeth randomly disturbing herself by offering you items when she is saying something emotional.
That was the biggest immersion killer for me. I remember at one point deep in the game she was speaking about the event that just happened and got very emotional. I was waiting for her to finish before making her open the lock, so as soon as she finished she goes back to the normal "Yeah i can open that" voicel. 
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day9 will be playing BIoshock today/tonight, starting in two hours or so.
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Amazing game. Almost as good as the first Bioshock, which is saying a looooooooooooooot for me.
+ Show Spoiler +The whole Elizabeth being your daughter was pretty obvious for me: 1. AD inscribed on your arm had to be Anna Dewitt and Anna Dewitt had to be Elizabeth. 2. I meta'd the shit outta this game and realized that there must be a reason there was zero romance option in a video game where you spend the entire time with an attractive lady. The age difference only made it more obvious that she was your daughter. BUT I suppose her being your daughter isn't the real twist, it's you being Comstock. At one point in the game I had guessed this just because it seemed a very Bioshock-y thing to do and the multiple timelines made it seem very plausible but still, the way it was done was very satisfying for me.
Great game. As for little dialogue that ruin immersion, one time Booker tell's Elizabeth he's going to take her to New York and she's ignores him. Later he sets a course for New York and she cries and bashes him over the head with a wrench. I was like WTF lady I already told you this.
But I beat this game in one day yesterday and am now watching Day9 play it. Speaks as to how amazing it was.
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Lalalaland34498 Posts
Why is he playing the XBOX version
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On April 20 2013 02:35 Firebolt145 wrote:Why is he playing the XBOX version
Is he? i thought he was playing with controller only. Whats the difference anyway other than the platform? :o
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Lalalaland34498 Posts
On April 20 2013 02:37 Grettin wrote:Is he? i thought he was playing with controller only. Whats the difference anyway other than the platform? :o
Is he? He might be, I'm not sure. The only real difference is the graphics, they are far more beautiful on the PC, that's all :D
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On April 20 2013 02:37 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 02:37 Grettin wrote:On April 20 2013 02:35 Firebolt145 wrote:Why is he playing the XBOX version Is he? i thought he was playing with controller only. Whats the difference anyway other than the platform? :o Is he? He might be, I'm not sure. The only real difference is the graphics, they are far more beautiful on the PC, that's all :D
Very true. Well, MANvsGAME played PC version with controller. Seems to be pretty popular thing to do. Anyways!
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I will never understand why some people prefer aiming with a stick rather then a mouse.
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On April 20 2013 02:56 PassiveAce wrote:
I will never understand why some people prefer aiming with a stick rather then a mouse.
They're an undeveloped sub-species, who feel more comfortable with something they know and love that helped their ancestors protect themselves, while the more developed species moves on and adapts to some that gives them more precision and rotation.
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Just beat the game today, was fairly proud of myself for seeing most of the twists beforehand.
+ Show Spoiler +Guessed early on that Anna was connected to Elizabeth...that was more of a Chekhov's gun thing, where it had to have some significance. I might have gotten some story crossed though, because I had assumed Anna was Booker's wife...so the assumption was that Elizabeth either was Anna or Anna and Booker's daughter. Guess I was right twice?
Lutece twins was fairly obvious once Quantum physics was mentioned.
Multiple Bookers was by extension of the twins and the head/tails board.
Comstock being Booker kinda just followed from assuming he wasn't lying about her being his daughter.
Only thing I missed was the "Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt".
Gameplay felt much tighter than in the first Bioshock, and I actively cycled through most of my Vigours throughout fights (opposed to ignoring most of the Plasmids). Only one I never used was Possession.
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Just managed to get my hands on this game... Can't wait to start!!
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