On January 06 2011 06:42 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: That was a big play, but not Tyree big. I think equally big was Favre's retarded heave in OT, or late in the fourth. I don't remember when, but that really fucked the Packers.
Are you talking about that one Wild Card game when Farve, who NEVER lost at Lambeau in the cold, threw a pick six in OT against Seattle?
No, Matt Hasselbeck threw that for Seattle. He said right before that they" want the ball and [were] going to score." It was actually the Wild Card game of that same season. The Packers only home playoff loss was against Atlanta.
In that same game vs the Eagles, Favre chucked a ball down field like 50 yards to no one in particular and was intercepted on it. I think it was their first (and only) OT possession of that game.
As a Packers fan I can verify that it was definitely Hasselbeck that threw the pick 6 (to Al Harris).
I don't remember the throw against the Eagles - the only thing I remember is going apeshit about 4th and 26.
The Packers also lost at home against the Giants in 2007 NFC Championship.
On January 06 2011 06:22 Hawk wrote: I hate to break up the wonderful chat you little sissies are having, but Freddie Mitchell, the self appointed SULTAN OF SLOT, reminds us that is the anniversary of 4th and 26, which he seems to think was on the same tier as Joe Cool's TD or Tyree's grab.
Freddy fucking Mitchell, man I thought that guy would completely disappear after getting owned in the Super Bowl. Funny to see him still talking shit. I remember when Belichick said "All he does is talk. He's terrible, and you can print that. I was happy when he was in the game." after the game. I think he blamed McNabb for his crappy career. Something about him not throwing to him enough and it hurting his reputation. Is he still in the league?
On January 06 2011 06:22 Hawk wrote: I hate to break up the wonderful chat you little sissies are having, but Freddie Mitchell, the self appointed SULTAN OF SLOT, reminds us that is the anniversary of 4th and 26, which he seems to think was on the same tier as Joe Cool's TD or Tyree's grab.
Freddy fucking Mitchell, man I thought that guy would completely disappear after getting owned in the Super Bowl. Funny to see him still talking shit. I remember when Belichick said "All he does is talk. He's terrible, and you can print that. I was happy when he was in the game." after the game. I think he blamed McNabb for his crappy career. Something about him not throwing to him enough and it hurting his reputation. Is he still in the league?
Nope, I guess that Super Bowl was his last NFL game:
I really think that is just a massive blunder on the Texans' part. Wade is a good DC, but he doesn't fit their personnel at all, imo. Maybe he can do a 4-3 scheme.
On January 06 2011 04:38 GT wrote: all i can say is a NE v PIT afc championship game seems to be pretty unavoidable at this point. i would love to see PHI win the superbowl so McNabb can cry himself to sleep everynight for the rest of is life lol.
Colts > Jets then Colts > Steelers Ravens > KC then Ravens > Pats Colts vs. Ravens championship game.
I think the Packers can take the Eagles, but I don't think they can get any further than that with their run game.
On January 06 2011 04:38 GT wrote: all i can say is a NE v PIT afc championship game seems to be pretty unavoidable at this point. i would love to see PHI win the superbowl so McNabb can cry himself to sleep everynight for the rest of is life lol.
Colts > Jets then Colts > Steelers Ravens > KC then Ravens > Pats Colts vs. Ravens championship game.
I think the Packers can take the Eagles, but I don't think they can get any further than that with their run game.
Agreed, unless the Eagles can stop the blitz, the Packers simply have to blitz Michael Vick like the Vikings did and pile on the hits until Vick starts to make mistakes.
On January 06 2011 08:42 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: I really think that is just a massive blunder on the Texans' part. Wade is a good DC, but he doesn't fit their personnel at all, imo. Maybe he can do a 4-3 scheme.
Kind of a waste of Phillips talent to have him running a different scheme than he's used to, but I think he ran a 4-3 base defense when he was in Buffalo. You're a Broncos fan right? Do you remember what his scheme was like there? Cause I sure don't and it's a pain to look up.
If Vick hasn't learned how to deal with the various blitzes/pressures shown to him then yeah, Packers have a very good shot.
I'm still not at all buying into the hype of Vick being a genuine pocket passer. Let's just say if teams tried to do stuff like that to a QB like Tom Brady he would have chuckled, flicked his gorgeous locks, and made the defense pay.
On January 06 2011 08:42 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: I really think that is just a massive blunder on the Texans' part. Wade is a good DC, but he doesn't fit their personnel at all, imo. Maybe he can do a 4-3 scheme.
Kind of a waste of Phillips talent to have him running a different scheme than he's used to, but I think he ran a 4-3 base defense when he was in Buffalo. You're a Broncos fan right? Do you remember what his scheme was like there? Cause I sure don't and it's a pain to look up.
I looked up their roster, and they had 2 DT's starting, so it must have been a 4-3.
It would be ideal for the Bears if it's Seahawks/GB moving on, then GB beats Atlanta. I guess it'd be okay with Philly/NO as well, but I'd really prefer for the Bears to not have to go to Atlanta.
So I haven't seen this brought up. Common sense for them to choose Fisher over Young, one of them has coached them to a Super Bowl and consistently rebuilt the team into a playoff contender (not to mention getting through those salary cap hell years) and the other has been a whiny crybaby with questionable results.
The big question is who goes after Young? He's shown a lot of progress as a passer these past 2 seasons, but there haven't been enough games to prove this is the real Young. I think a lot of dumb owners/GMs will assume Vick and Young are the same type of player and blindly follow what the Eagles did. Ignoring things like supporting casts, coaches, etc etc. IE the things that make teams good.
Teams that consistently make stupid personnel decisions: Buccaneers, Broncos, Bengals, Bills, Panthers, Vikings. But the worst of the worst when it comes to snatching up shiny things and wanting to be like the Eagles? The Redskins. Shannahan is known to be at least as bad at GMing as he is good at coaching, plus the ego boost from molding Young into a great QB, plus the falling out with McNabb, plus the usual Snyder skullfuckery. I don't see how this doesn't happen.
So I haven't seen this brought up. Common sense for them to choose Fisher over Young, one of them has coached them to a Super Bowl and consistently rebuilt the team into a playoff contender (not to mention getting through those salary cap hell years) and the other has been a whiny crybaby with questionable results.
The big question is who goes after Young? He's shown a lot of progress as a passer these past 2 seasons, but there haven't been enough games to prove this is the real Young. I think a lot of dumb owners/GMs will assume Vick and Young are the same type of player and blindly follow what the Eagles did.
Teams that consistently make stupid personnel decisions: Buccaneers, Broncos, Bengals, Bills, Panthers, Vikings. But the worst of the worst when it comes to snatching up shiny things and wanting to be like the Eagles? The Redskins. Shannahan is known to be at least as bad at GMing as he is good at coaching, plus the ego boost from molding Young into a great QB, plus the falling out with McNabb, plus the usual Snyder skullfuckery. I don't see how this doesn't happen.
I do. The Redskins are definitely going for a free agent QB, but that QB won't necessarily be Young. I think they will try to grab Kyle Orton instead. He's the more established player and with the numbers he put up this year, arguably the "shinier" one as well.
So I haven't seen this brought up. Common sense for them to choose Fisher over Young, one of them has coached them to a Super Bowl and consistently rebuilt the team into a playoff contender (not to mention getting through those salary cap hell years) and the other has been a whiny crybaby with questionable results.
The big question is who goes after Young? He's shown a lot of progress as a passer these past 2 seasons, but there haven't been enough games to prove this is the real Young. I think a lot of dumb owners/GMs will assume Vick and Young are the same type of player and blindly follow what the Eagles did. Ignoring things like supporting casts, coaches, etc etc. IE the things that make teams good.
Teams that consistently make stupid personnel decisions: Buccaneers, Broncos, Bengals, Bills, Panthers, Vikings. But the worst of the worst when it comes to snatching up shiny things and wanting to be like the Eagles? The Redskins. Shannahan is known to be at least as bad at GMing as he is good at coaching, plus the ego boost from molding Young into a great QB, plus the falling out with McNabb, plus the usual Snyder skullfuckery. I don't see how this doesn't happen.
Page 185, I brought it up, the coaching carousel took precedence over the VY/Fischer thing. Anywho, I was wondering the same thing myself.
The Bucs are on the right road, and they have a franchise QB in place, it seems. No way they go after VY. The Broncos might give Tebow a year to see what he's worth, since next year will be a rebuilding year anyway, I think. Bengals have Palmer, I'm not sure what they think of him though.
I think the Bills, Vikings, or Redskins are all places he could legitimately land. I think Shannahan would pay him the most, because he likes making horrible personnel decisions, and thinks he can turn shitty to questionable QB's into great QB's... think Jake Plummer.
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