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zemiron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States481 Posts
January 03 2011 12:59 GMT
#3641
Go Falcons!
"Fractal alligators. Like a normal alligator, but instead of arms, there are more alligators." -Day9
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
January 03 2011 15:18 GMT
#3642
ROFL go pete carroll
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 03 2011 22:14 GMT
#3643
I'm glad that Houston let go of its D coordinator but Kubiak needs to go too -_-
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 04 2011 00:06 GMT
#3644
I hope that Houston is smart enough to not hire Wade Phillips. I can't see Mario Williams being effective in a 3-4 D. He'd be like Aaron Kampman was to the Packers in '09, practically useless.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
January 04 2011 00:19 GMT
#3645
Wade Phillips is definitely a terrible choice. He is cursed for the bullshit he pulled with Doug Flutie, plus he's a terrible (head) coach in general. Still a worthy coordinator though, much like Norv Turner in some ways. Someone is going to take a flyer on Mangini though and I think the Texans are a candidate. I'm not convinced Mangini has no head coaching future, but he sure as hell hasn't proven himself.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 04 2011 00:23 GMT
#3646
The Texans would be so stupid to bring in anyone that runs a 3-4, they don't have the personnel for it, but they have the personnel to run one of the best 4-3 defenses in the league, they just need more discipline.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
January 04 2011 00:46 GMT
#3647
When you look at the NFL and past head coaches and coordinators over the past 10 seasons, it's amazing how many coordinators got hired as head coaches, were terrible head coaches and then returned to a coordinator position and are again thriving.

Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 04 2011 00:50 GMT
#3648
On January 04 2011 09:46 NKexquisite wrote:
When you look at the NFL and past head coaches and coordinators over the past 10 seasons, it's amazing how many coordinators got hired as head coaches, were terrible head coaches and then returned to a coordinator position and are again thriving.



Some guys just can't handle the responsibility of being a head coach. There's so much more to being a HC than an OC/DC. Some of them are brilliant football minds, but they can't motivate players. I know that they should be motivated by the millions they are making, but the fact is that sometimes even rich people aren't motivated to work hard, and that's where the HC comes in. Additionally, you have to know how to pick good coordinators. Wade is not a guy that can get his players to play for him, or build a great coordinating team, but he's a great DC. On the other hand, I think Lovie Smith is a suspect DC, but he's a very good HC, because he has put together a good supporting cast around him, and players refuse to quit playing for the guy.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
January 04 2011 00:50 GMT
#3649
On January 04 2011 09:23 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
The Texans would be so stupid to bring in anyone that runs a 3-4, they don't have the personnel for it, but they have the personnel to run one of the best 4-3 defenses in the league, they just need more discipline.


Right. Forgot about that, and Mangini is exactly the kind of guy who would stubbornly try to force his system down their throats too.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 04 2011 00:57 GMT
#3650
That's why I don't think that Mangini will ever make a good coach in the NFL. He was handed an excellent situation in NE, and got famous for it. The main scheme is mainly Bill's anyway, he's the real brilliance of that team.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
January 04 2011 01:03 GMT
#3651
On January 04 2011 09:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
That's why I don't think that Mangini will ever make a good coach in the NFL. He was handed an excellent situation in NE, and got famous for it. The main scheme is mainly Bill's anyway, he's the real brilliance of that team.


To add to that our absolute worst defensive year in the Belichick era was when he was coordinator. Of course the reason for that was mostly age and injuries, which have nothing to do with Mangini, but the idea of him being some sort of genius mostly comes out of thin air. He had nothing to back it up besides the favor of Belichick at the time, and I'll be the first to admit, Belichicks coaching tree has been a huge failure so far.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
January 04 2011 01:04 GMT
#3652
The Texans should have fired Kubiak week 1 of this season after seeing Arian Foster play. Who the hell put that monster on the practice squad!?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 04 2011 01:05 GMT
#3653
I loved how Mangini beat Belichick in his first game against him, and everyone talked about the "Mangenius"
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 04 2011 01:39 GMT
#3654
Coaching carousel.

It's absurd that Jack Del Rio got to keep his job this season. Coughlin's job looks safe as well. I don't think Coughlin is as bad as some people here think, but he does make some horrible decisions at times. That's a very talented, underachieving team, I think.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Cryogenic
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada75 Posts
January 04 2011 01:56 GMT
#3655
I'm glad to see some Falcons fans here because I too am a Falcons fan. I'm also glad nobody (really) is complaining about the 7-9 Seahawks getting a playoff home game seeing as we had the #1 Offense and Defense miss the playoffs (Chargers), a team that swept their division and didn't make it (Raiders) and two 10-6 teams not make it (Giants and Bucs).


Coughlin is as bad as some people here think, but he does make some horrible decisions at times. That's a very talented, underachieving team, I think.


We have to remember he won a Super Bowl not too long ago and before that win his demeanor to his fellow coached ans players made him unpopular in the locker room. They are making the playoffs next year for sure.
"If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place." - Nora Roberts .:| Scarlett |:.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 03:43:32
January 04 2011 01:57 GMT
#3656
People like Del Rio and Kubiak get to stay, but good coaches like Cable will get fired? wtf

Edit: Will it never end?

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
January 04 2011 03:55 GMT
#3657
A lot of it has to to with the contracts each HC has. If Kubiak was to be let go it would cost the Texans quite a lot of money because he signed an extension last year (iirc). The Texans problems are not even the offense, which is why the DC was fired.

But if Cable does end up being fired imo that would be a huge mistake. Since 2003 the Raiders have lost 11 times each season, which is an NFL record. With the stain of Jamarcus Russel finally purged and McFadden performing at his expected level that organization has finally gained relevance. Al Davis needs to keep his hands off for now.

Del Rio, of course, deserves to get fired for another mediocre season. It's tough to win in the AFC South with the Colts and Titans but they were in prime position to take the division and they failed to do so once again.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 04 2011 04:00 GMT
#3658
On January 04 2011 09:23 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
The Texans would be so stupid to bring in anyone that runs a 3-4, they don't have the personnel for it, but they have the personnel to run one of the best 4-3 defenses in the league, they just need more discipline.

They could use a few new secondary players too. That secondary has been downright terrible ever since Robinson left.
Uff Da
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 04 2011 04:07 GMT
#3659
On January 04 2011 13:00 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 09:23 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
The Texans would be so stupid to bring in anyone that runs a 3-4, they don't have the personnel for it, but they have the personnel to run one of the best 4-3 defenses in the league, they just need more discipline.

They could use a few new secondary players too. That secondary has been downright terrible ever since Robinson left.


Well, yeah, but Robinson just left this year. Their secondary could use some help, but their front seven is so talented that it can overcome the deficiencies of the secondary. You can have a minor weakness in the defense, and overcome it with a great front seven. The Bears have a bad secondary, overall, but they're a top five defense because they have a great front seven this year, and they're excellent in the RZ. I think that the Texans defense could operate very similarly to the Bears. If they could get a 3-technique they'd be ideal for a C2 scheme. GL finding a good 3-technique though.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Hydrogen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States12 Posts
January 04 2011 04:14 GMT
#3660
As a steelers fan in NJ, I've been sucked in to watching eagles games to see Micheal Vick's performance.
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