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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
May 10 2013 12:35 GMT
#761
On May 10 2013 20:57 Broetchenholer wrote:
I am now sitting in my T34 and am overwhelmed by joy and constant pain :D As far as i understand it, i should never go into a heads-on fight with Tier 5 tanks, as i am not gonna win them. So, staying behind the main line and damaging everything is the best choice. I am bad at this, but i will learn. But how am i playing on maps like Mountain pass or Ensk? When there are only small choke points?


You mean a T-34, just to clarify. T34 is a US Premium T8 heavy.

And of course you can win against other T5s. The problem is, you need to learn where to shoot, and that comes only via experience.

Maybe i'll join you some day with a T-34 and figure it out again. ^^
FallenEncore
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom64 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 12:37:40
May 10 2013 12:36 GMT
#762
Just got my hetzer. Also have my churchill mark 1 . The hetzer is a joy to drive but the chuch is a brick with a gun. I attually had more fun driving the mitilda with the last upgraded gun. Im now working on my own t - 34 looking for people to play with im on euwest. Same name as here
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1944 Posts
May 10 2013 12:58 GMT
#763
Nothging better as a player telling you to just aim for the weakspots. My friend does all the time. I have a 80% crew god damnit. I am happy if i hit the tank from a distance of 100m. THe point is, against KV-1 and Churchill I can't win a brawl. Against the usual mediums, the T-34 seems to have good chances. Against TDs, you usually loose the brawls cause you get one shot ;/
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
May 10 2013 12:58 GMT
#764
On May 10 2013 20:57 Broetchenholer wrote:
I am now sitting in my T34 and am overwhelmed by joy and constant pain :D As far as i understand it, i should never go into a heads-on fight with Tier 5 tanks, as i am not gonna win them. So, staying behind the main line and damaging everything is the best choice. I am bad at this, but i will learn. But how am i playing on maps like Mountain pass or Ensk? When there are only small choke points?


with no armor fast tanks the goal is to not to get shot. you can get to great positions fast and snipe from far, flank the enemy, wait for the enemy to shoot at your mate then engage it.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 13:15:23
May 10 2013 13:10 GMT
#765
On May 10 2013 21:58 Broetchenholer wrote:
Nothging better as a player telling you to just aim for the weakspots. My friend does all the time. I have a 80% crew god damnit. I am happy if i hit the tank from a distance of 100m. THe point is, against KV-1 and Churchill I can't win a brawl. Against the usual mediums, the T-34 seems to have good chances. Against TDs, you usually loose the brawls cause you get one shot ;/


Yeah, against heavies you can't. You will never win against these two in a normal fight. Even if you somehow manage to start the fight in their backs. That's how it is though. You're not supposed to, in this case. Against TDs, well.. You know that their biggest problem is the lack of a turret, if you know the shooting angles of their guns (depends on the TD) you can troll them pretty easy with shooting down their tracks, or hugging their sides.

Also, i didn't tell you to aim for weakspots, your gun is too weak/inaccurate to do something against KVs, even if you aim for weakspots. I didn't know that you complain about not being able to brawl against a tank that weighs easily twice as much as your tank - you know, "T5" can mean alot of tanks.

Edit: also, there's not that much TDs on T4-5 that can onehit a T-34. If you have a derp-TD, just wait for it to shoot and rush it after that. As a medium, you're supposed to hide behind heavies in open spaces. Later on, the gap becomes smaller and you can actually brawl with certain heavies - but you're not there yet.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1944 Posts
May 10 2013 14:20 GMT
#766
Okay, good advice, thanks. Yesterday, i met my first AT-2. Yay :D The game is still fun and i don't want to cry too much. I am less bitter as i sound :D Playing LoL, SC2 and now WoT makes you a bit whiny though :D I've got a ventilation system and the thing for faster aiming installed now, anything else i definetely need? Guess the optics are the best bet, but i guess that slot is gonna stay open until i understand a bit more.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:41:11
May 10 2013 14:36 GMT
#767
On May 10 2013 23:20 Broetchenholer wrote:
Okay, good advice, thanks. Yesterday, i met my first AT-2. Yay :D The game is still fun and i don't want to cry too much. I am less bitter as i sound :D Playing LoL, SC2 and now WoT makes you a bit whiny though :D I've got a ventilation system and the thing for faster aiming installed now, anything else i definetely need? Guess the optics are the best bet, but i guess that slot is gonna stay open until i understand a bit more.


I can only speak for heavies, in general you want a rammer, and a gunlaying drive. The rammer is almost mandatory i'd say, the gunlaying drive is not - that one depends on the tank you're playing. German meds for example are better off with a gunlaying drive, whereas US meds are better off with a vertical stabilzer. Ventilations are nice to have, although later on you may want to consider a wet ammo rack in your tree (if you go further towards T-44 etc).

In general, there's no real "mandatory" equipment except the rammer. And premium, if you spend so much money on equipment on a tank that you'll get rid off pretty fast.

Edit: might be wrong though on the vertical stab for US meds, they nerfed their "while driving accuracy" pretty badly. They were mandatory when i played on a daily basis, on the pershing for example. Since they mixed up the trees, no idea if the "playstyle" is still the same. For the germans it was the same up to the Panther II when it was top tier, then the E-50 - but i don't know about the E-50M, since that didn't exist at that point.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 10 2013 15:00 GMT
#768
Why do I have to wait till T7 to get a german heavy bleh :c
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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
May 10 2013 15:08 GMT
#769
On May 11 2013 00:00 Zealos wrote:
Why do I have to wait till T7 to get a german heavy bleh :c

vk3601h is a heavy tank, its designation will be changed in the next two patches
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 15:12:44
May 10 2013 15:12 GMT
#770
On May 11 2013 00:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 00:00 Zealos wrote:
Why do I have to wait till T7 to get a german heavy bleh :c

vk3601h is a heavy tank, its designation will be changed in the next two patches


And its fucking awesome. Konisch + premium ammo (which is available for credits now as it seems) = incredible amount of penetration/damage.

8,8cm is awesome too, but not as much. ^^

Edit: not to mention that if you're top tier tank, you're near to invulnerable if you play your cards right.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#771
On May 10 2013 09:17 bobbob wrote:
Also if you knock down trees, fences, destroy any terrain, it's visible from across the map.

Yeah, I know that.

On May 10 2013 14:09 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:50 Lucumo wrote:
OK, so no smoke from the cannon but the bullet itself. Makes sense. Guess he was lucky that he looked at that spot(normally, no one is ever there). Thank you.


If you shot more than once, he can actually "track you down" on your tracers. Blind shot in this case is not neccessarily a "guessing shot" but just a shot without vision.

Happens quite often, especially against arty. In beta that was a meta game, playing "counter-arty". Hunting down tracers and not getting killed yourself. ^^

Edit: i'm fairly sure that there are no real cheats. Bots and Hitboxskins, yes - but no maphacks or something like that. At least it does not feel like it, never had the vibe that someone was cheating that way.

Shot twice, so I guess he still did a good job.

Guess most people don't play that way anymore, considering it's the first time this happened to me.

On May 10 2013 21:36 FallenEncore wrote:
Just got my hetzer. Also have my churchill mark 1 . The hetzer is a joy to drive but the chuch is a brick with a gun. I attually had more fun driving the mitilda with the last upgraded gun. Im now working on my own t - 34 looking for people to play with im on euwest. Same name as here

The Hetzer is awesome, owned so many tanks with it. Definitely my favorite german tank destroyer so far.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 16:26:01
May 10 2013 16:25 GMT
#772
On May 11 2013 01:08 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:17 bobbob wrote:
Also if you knock down trees, fences, destroy any terrain, it's visible from across the map.

Yeah, I know that.

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:09 m4inbrain wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:50 Lucumo wrote:
OK, so no smoke from the cannon but the bullet itself. Makes sense. Guess he was lucky that he looked at that spot(normally, no one is ever there). Thank you.


If you shot more than once, he can actually "track you down" on your tracers. Blind shot in this case is not neccessarily a "guessing shot" but just a shot without vision.

Happens quite often, especially against arty. In beta that was a meta game, playing "counter-arty". Hunting down tracers and not getting killed yourself. ^^

Edit: i'm fairly sure that there are no real cheats. Bots and Hitboxskins, yes - but no maphacks or something like that. At least it does not feel like it, never had the vibe that someone was cheating that way.

Shot twice, so I guess he still did a good job.

Guess most people don't play that way anymore, considering it's the first time this happened to me.

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:36 FallenEncore wrote:
Just got my hetzer. Also have my churchill mark 1 . The hetzer is a joy to drive but the chuch is a brick with a gun. I attually had more fun driving the mitilda with the last upgraded gun. Im now working on my own t - 34 looking for people to play with im on euwest. Same name as here

The Hetzer is awesome, owned so many tanks with it. Definitely my favorite german tank destroyer so far.


No, to my knowledge, only betaplayers and shortly after, because they removed tracers from the game completely for a long time - so there was no way new people could get used to it.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1975 Posts
May 10 2013 16:43 GMT
#773
Best F2P i have ever played.
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FlilFlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada109 Posts
May 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#774
I played this game a long time ago, and while it is very well made, interesting, and certainly worth playing, the free MMO model of having to buy in game items and accumulate experience levels and 'gold' over many months and hundreds of hours to get to the competitive level wrecks the game for me.

Experiential based knowledge and physical skill is what i appreciate, not hours played or points purchased...
vidi, vici, veni
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
May 10 2013 17:23 GMT
#775
On May 11 2013 02:03 FlilFlam wrote:
I played this game a long time ago, and while it is very well made, interesting, and certainly worth playing, the free MMO model of having to buy in game items and accumulate experience levels and 'gold' over many months and hundreds of hours to get to the competitive level wrecks the game for me.

Experiential based knowledge and physical skill is what i appreciate, not hours played or points purchased...


There is no need to buy certain items with gold. All "money" does is speeding up the progress of "stuff". May it be leveling or gold ammo.

Also, T5-T6 is as competetive as T10. As i said earlier, ESL even has leagues for that level.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 10 2013 18:29 GMT
#776
On May 11 2013 01:25 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 01:08 Lucumo wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:17 bobbob wrote:
Also if you knock down trees, fences, destroy any terrain, it's visible from across the map.

Yeah, I know that.

On May 10 2013 14:09 m4inbrain wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:50 Lucumo wrote:
OK, so no smoke from the cannon but the bullet itself. Makes sense. Guess he was lucky that he looked at that spot(normally, no one is ever there). Thank you.


If you shot more than once, he can actually "track you down" on your tracers. Blind shot in this case is not neccessarily a "guessing shot" but just a shot without vision.

Happens quite often, especially against arty. In beta that was a meta game, playing "counter-arty". Hunting down tracers and not getting killed yourself. ^^

Edit: i'm fairly sure that there are no real cheats. Bots and Hitboxskins, yes - but no maphacks or something like that. At least it does not feel like it, never had the vibe that someone was cheating that way.

Shot twice, so I guess he still did a good job.

Guess most people don't play that way anymore, considering it's the first time this happened to me.

On May 10 2013 21:36 FallenEncore wrote:
Just got my hetzer. Also have my churchill mark 1 . The hetzer is a joy to drive but the chuch is a brick with a gun. I attually had more fun driving the mitilda with the last upgraded gun. Im now working on my own t - 34 looking for people to play with im on euwest. Same name as here

The Hetzer is awesome, owned so many tanks with it. Definitely my favorite german tank destroyer so far.


No, to my knowledge, only betaplayers and shortly after, because they removed tracers from the game completely for a long time - so there was no way new people could get used to it.

Hm. Well, killed an arty myself that way now ^_^

On May 10 2013 21:36 FallenEncore wrote:
Just got my hetzer. Also have my churchill mark 1 . The hetzer is a joy to drive but the chuch is a brick with a gun. I attually had more fun driving the mitilda with the last upgraded gun. Im now working on my own t - 34 looking for people to play with im on euwest. Same name as here

EUWest=normal EU server? I wouldn't mind a Hetzer party
dafnay
Profile Joined May 2010
Angola375 Posts
May 10 2013 18:48 GMT
#777
How people can play this boring game?
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 19:08:58
May 10 2013 19:08 GMT
#778
On May 11 2013 03:48 dafnay wrote:
How people can play this boring game?


Easy, you need to doubleclick the shortcut, put in your password and after that, you chose your tank. If it's repaired and armed, you basically just need to click "Battle", the red big button on top, and the matchmaking does the rest for you.

Easy, right? Glad i could help.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 10 2013 19:14 GMT
#779
You need to download and install the client first though.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
May 10 2013 19:20 GMT
#780
Yeah right, i assumed that this would be a given, mea culpa. Of course, you have to download and install the client first. And patch it. Also you need to create an account on their webpage, with which you log in to the game.
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