EPT2010-2011 football (soccer) thread - Page 184
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Spinfusor
Australia410 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
 Also very nice to see Fletcher coming on for the final minutes. I've always liked his defensive energy. | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On May 05 2011 05:24 TonyL2 wrote: How did Inter concede 7 goals...? haha yeah, i was going to say that inter must feel awful watching those 2 legs | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
On May 05 2011 05:24 TonyL2 wrote: How did Inter concede 7 goals...? I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question but just in case: I might get flamed for this, but basically, because they lost the special one. Murinho has belief he can win CL, Leonardo obviously doesn't and that's apparent in his approach. He's given the players more "freedom" but at the expense of structure and strategy. Inter, to me, seem lost. You can have the greatest players in the world but if they don't have structure, strategy or understand how they're approaching the game then you just become dependant on flashes of individual brilliance. This makes their play very erratic.... because any one player can feel or not feel inspired on any particular day. To be honest, Inter need to tell their player's to STFU and let someone coach them. Problem is, a lot of them can transfer very easily for substantial amounts of money if they don't like how they're being coached. To me, it almost feels like the players are influencing the play and the strategy more then the coach at Inter. Murinho seems to have this special touch where he can make players play the way they don't want to play, however, it's funny that even when he makes them play out of position the players still end up looking amazing and do some amazing things... I think this is because they know the strategy and when/if they feel inspired they can try that inspirational move knowing full well how to back it up if it goes wrong (i.e. get back in the structure). Having said that, Murinho seems to be having lots of problems at Real Madrid with getting his players playing the way he wants them to... I think he might have finally found a team full of so many egos that even he can't manage them. I had this opinion before the Copa Del Ray, after and now... Again, this is just my opinion based on what I can perceive. No one knows the facts, because none of us sit in the boardroom meetings or change rooms. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On May 05 2011 09:42 MaZza[KIS] wrote: I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question but just in case: I might get flamed for this, but basically, because they lost the special one. Murinho has belief he can win CL, Leonardo obviously doesn't and that's apparent in his approach. He's given the players more "freedom" but at the expense of structure and strategy. Inter, to me, seem lost. You can have the greatest players in the world but if they don't have structure, strategy or understand how they're approaching the game then you just become dependant on flashes of individual brilliance. This makes their play very erratic.... because any one player can feel or not feel inspired on any particular day. I'm going to agree with this assessment. Considering that the Inter team of last year and this year has little different and last year's team won the treble, for such a wild shift to occur something in the management must have shifted. (Or they are just slumping really horribly). But I do believe that Mourinho's style lent itself much better to the team than Benitez (I don't know about Leonardo). I don't think that Mourinho's tactics in themselves are so brilliant as his attention to detail. I think he forces his players to be aware of every single instance of what occurs and prepares what they should do beforehand (even up to the speed at which they complain to the ref haha). Whereas this approach wouldn't work so well with a player with a high ego, Mourinho just seems to be so charismatic that the approach works. Personally, I think he isn't performing as well at Real Madrid simply because Barcelona have such a strong squad. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On May 05 2011 09:15 nayumi wrote: Was Neuer throwing the game? The 2nd and 3rd goal didn't look that hard to stop for me, especially for his standard ... Tough to say if he should have stopped them, he could have also lost hope of winning after the 1st goal which effectively ended the series. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28695 Posts
![[image loading]](http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/164/164261/16426150/jpg/active/480x.jpg) pretty interesting, shows how big a part luck can play. this is how the premier league would currently look if every shot hitting the post or the bar ended up being a goal. pretty happy it's not as my sweet newcastle would be getting relegated. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 05 2011 20:55 Liquid`Drone wrote: pretty interesting, shows how big a part luck can play. this is how the premier league would currently look if every shot hitting the post or the bar ended up being a goal. pretty happy it's not as my sweet newcastle would be getting relegated. I'm an Arsenal supporter  FML. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
Hm, not all shots that hit the post are equally random though. What angle did it come from? If it had been an inch more inside, would the goalie's fingers have diverted it? | ||
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Thezzphai
Germany1145 Posts
On May 05 2011 10:37 Signet wrote: Tough to say if he should have stopped them, he could have also lost hope of winning after the 1st goal which effectively ended the series. The 2nd goal was his fault obviously but the 3rd goal was actually pretty hard to stop... | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
:[ Just goes on to show that my beloved Arsenal needs to have a better conversion of chances into goals :[ | ||
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TArujo
Portugal1687 Posts
Porto holds a 5-1 advantage vs Villareal, so it should be no problem for my team to make it trough the final in Dublin on the other hand we have Benfica vs Braga with a 2-1 advantage for Benfica, it's going to be hard for Benfica since Braga always scores at home and only conceded goals in 1 (!!!!) game this season in all the euro matches. Beeing a Portuguese im hyped for these matches :D | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28695 Posts
On May 05 2011 21:04 Holgerius wrote: Shooting a ball in the goal instead of in a post comes down to skill... to some degree and in certain situations yea, but if you have 21 shots in the post that didnt go in and some other team has 2 shots in the post that didnt go in, obviously one is luckier than the other. | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
A few post shots come from a bad angle from the side so there isn't even too much space to aim for the goal itself | ||
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