• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:51
CEST 16:51
KST 23:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!17Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)84Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
August World Ranking Watchlist: Serral back to #1? How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12847 users

Diablo III General Discussion - Page 902

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 900 901 902 903 904 1109 Next
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
July 15 2014 05:41 GMT
#18021
Yes, and they will also put the greater rift leaderboards on diabloprogress.com
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
July 15 2014 05:47 GMT
#18022
On July 15 2014 14:41 b_unnies wrote:
Yes, and they will also put the greater rift leaderboards on diabloprogress.com

So? Others do want to see that leaderboard, the leaderboard you wanted is there, what is the problem with showing both
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 15 2014 06:15 GMT
#18023
On July 15 2014 14:18 b_unnies wrote:
That is not a leveling ladder. A leveling ladder is based on paragon level. D2's first to lvl 99 is a leveling ladder.

Having a leveling based ladder, season, w/e you call it will singlehandley fix majority of the problems in D3

it actually is a leveling ladder by definition, but whatever. a plvl ladder is garbage. it means nothing except how much time you have invested. how far you get in rifts at least has a small measure of skill.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 15 2014 07:19 GMT
#18024
On July 15 2014 15:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 14:18 b_unnies wrote:
That is not a leveling ladder. A leveling ladder is based on paragon level. D2's first to lvl 99 is a leveling ladder.

Having a leveling based ladder, season, w/e you call it will singlehandley fix majority of the problems in D3

it actually is a leveling ladder by definition, but whatever. a plvl ladder is garbage. it means nothing except how much time you have invested. how far you get in rifts at least has a small measure of skill.

Programming the fastest bot takes skill!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
July 15 2014 13:33 GMT
#18025
On July 15 2014 14:18 b_unnies wrote:
That is not a leveling ladder. A leveling ladder is based on paragon level. D2's first to lvl 99 is a leveling ladder.

Having a leveling based ladder, season, w/e you call it will singlehandley fix majority of the problems in D3

How would a leveling based ladder solve the problems in d3 exactly?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
July 15 2014 13:42 GMT
#18026
On July 15 2014 22:33 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 14:18 b_unnies wrote:
That is not a leveling ladder. A leveling ladder is based on paragon level. D2's first to lvl 99 is a leveling ladder.

Having a leveling based ladder, season, w/e you call it will singlehandley fix majority of the problems in D3

How would a leveling based ladder solve the problems in d3 exactly?

It wouldn't. He just wants one and the developers have no interest in it so he's kicking up a fuss.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
July 15 2014 14:32 GMT
#18027
Don't feed the trolls guys. No need to have 5 pages in a row speculating about the inclusion of a plvl ladder. Something that literally has no effect on gameplay shouldn't get this much coverage.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 15:55:42
July 15 2014 15:55 GMT
#18028
As someone who didn't play through more than Act 1 of Diablo 2, ever, I'm way more excited by ladder because of the fresh start aspect than anything else. Were the leaderboards and racing really that prominent? What made ladder in D2 so successful?
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
July 15 2014 20:19 GMT
#18029
On July 16 2014 00:55 Duka08 wrote:
As someone who didn't play through more than Act 1 of Diablo 2, ever, I'm way more excited by ladder because of the fresh start aspect than anything else. Were the leaderboards and racing really that prominent? What made ladder in D2 so successful?

exclusive items was the reason I did play it (I would have liked not being forced there, not a problem for D3 ladder thou). For most other people it was the reset of the economy, trading being fun again. Some did it for the race to lv99
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 15 2014 20:58 GMT
#18030
D2 ladder was pretty much the more techie types competing on who can program the most efficient bot.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5469 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-16 09:16:25
July 16 2014 09:12 GMT
#18031
Maybe in later years. It was fun for the first few years before it was infested with bots. I stopped playing before the bots came, I guess. I had the #1 HC druid for the first 5-6 days when LoD was released. Then died to computer taking too long to load Was fun though!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 16 2014 23:25 GMT
#18032
no leg gems on followers. guess asheras wont be the best set.

also notes how each gem will upgrade and caps.

http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/55336-leg-gem-too-op
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 17 2014 05:23 GMT
#18033
On July 16 2014 18:12 SoleSteeler wrote:
Maybe in later years. It was fun for the first few years before it was infested with bots. I stopped playing before the bots came, I guess. I had the #1 HC druid for the first 5-6 days when LoD was released. Then died to computer taking too long to load Was fun though!

I still remember the days of spending 30s+ to load. This was a 100mhz celeron, had to uninstall EVERYTHING just to install D2/exp because the hard drive had only like 4gb of space total.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 17 2014 15:48 GMT
#18034
I bought a PC with a 6 GB hard drive before college. That was the year D2 was released. I stopped playing online closed ladder probably half a year after LoD was released. It was pretty much bot infested at the time. Afterwards, I only played on LAN with people I know.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 17 2014 23:02 GMT
#18035
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13510080878

2h weapons are changing.

20-23% increase in DPS, with crusader passive heavenly strength getting -20% nerf.

So..

overall
+20-23% on 2h
+0-3% dps to Heavenly Strength.


This change is nice, but I can't see it making the 2h weapons competitive. You're still losing a socket when fighting with d/w classes, and fighting with an additional unique effect with source/mojos/quivers.

Blizzard really moves slowly when making changes, and when they do, boy are they underwhelming.

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
July 17 2014 23:08 GMT
#18036
Yeah i feel 2h will never be competitive while weapon sockets are as good as they are.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
July 18 2014 03:00 GMT
#18037
Not gonna bother with the seasonal characters except maybe get a character to paragon 100 which should get me some of the exclusive items/recipes. They exclusives seem underwhelming so far anyway. Gonna stick with my original hardcore character mainly and try to get on to some greater rift records.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 18 2014 07:09 GMT
#18038
2h needs to be able to have the mods that 2x 1hand or 1h + off-hand can have. If that means that 2h will start rolling with 8 mods, with up to two mods of the same kind (including sockets)... well bring it!

Also, while we are modifying two handers... can we make a larger difference in attack speed? I want it to be a huuuge difference between 2h and 1h in terms of attack speed. like have 2h hammers with 0.5 attack speed (also allows for awesome animations!). Then 1h or 2h would completely make or break your build, with resource costs vs per hit effects.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 07:29:21
July 18 2014 07:28 GMT
#18039
On July 18 2014 08:02 crms wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13510080878

2h weapons are changing.

20-23% increase in DPS, with crusader passive heavenly strength getting -20% nerf.

So..

overall
+20-23% on 2h
+0-3% dps to Heavenly Strength.


This change is nice, but I can't see it making the 2h weapons competitive. You're still losing a socket when fighting with d/w classes, and fighting with an additional unique effect with source/mojos/quivers.

Blizzard really moves slowly when making changes, and when they do, boy are they underwhelming.


IIRC the 20% weapon damage is worth roughly the same as the 130% crit damage mod while dual wielding. That basically means that some two handers with very good mods will become viable.

FoE for one is going to be sick.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 18 2014 07:29 GMT
#18040
2 handers enjoy the bigger base damage thing so chasing stats parity isn't the way to evaluate them. certain cd based skills are based on damage per swing.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Prev 1 900 901 902 903 904 1109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 16
IntoTheiNu 1493
WardiTV603
RotterdaM540
Ryung 522
TKL 200
SteadfastSC120
Rex116
EnkiAlexander 32
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1806
RotterdaM 540
Ryung 522
TKL 200
SteadfastSC 120
Rex 116
BRAT_OK 56
trigger 22
RushiSC 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4279
Rain 2510
Jaedong 1953
firebathero 958
EffOrt 780
Horang2 724
Light 552
BeSt 406
Soulkey 278
hero 256
[ Show more ]
ZerO 225
Stork 211
Rush 201
Soma 178
ggaemo 171
Snow 147
Zeus 103
Mong 101
Dewaltoss 92
Hyun 79
sorry 62
Leta 59
Movie 56
NaDa 53
ToSsGirL 41
Pusan 40
JulyZerg 40
JYJ 29
Nal_rA 23
GoRush 23
yabsab 22
Sexy 21
Hm[arnc] 21
Rock 20
Aegong 18
Sacsri 15
Noble 12
Terrorterran 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
IntoTheRainbow 10
zelot 7
Dota 2
qojqva2003
XaKoH 371
syndereN339
XcaliburYe171
420jenkins155
League of Legends
KnowMe37
Counter-Strike
fl0m3559
x6flipin149
Other Games
FrodaN5156
B2W.Neo789
hiko717
Lowko604
Mlord449
DeMusliM271
ToD148
ArmadaUGS123
QueenE40
CosmosSc2 21
ZerO(Twitch)15
Trikslyr0
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 52
• poizon28 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV420
League of Legends
• Nemesis2751
• TFBlade784
Upcoming Events
OSC
9h 10m
CrankTV Team League
20h 10m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
CrankTV Team League
1d 20h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.