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On April 30 2014 23:22 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 22:38 Cascade wrote:On April 30 2014 02:21 Black Gun wrote:On April 29 2014 22:49 oneofthem wrote:
the reason they gave for removing AH was partly to allow for greater drop rate while still keeping longevity/the grind.
with the many many distinct build enabling uniques around, it seems like the idea was that players are supposed to adapt their build to the gears they find, rather than converging on one optimal build and tehreby limiting their gear choice and slow down gear progression. indeed. and while i consider this a nice idea, i think it doesnt work out too well in practice. the current state of the game and trade and drop mechanics simply means that there is a certain percentage of unlucky players that do not find the gear for any "good" or "viable" build for a long long time. hence, those players are forced on inefficient builds that are not fun to play. Yeah, agree. These posts even made me dig up the discussion we had back in November in the RoS thread when they announced no trading. I'd say we were decently on track with the predictions?  On November 13 2013 05:53 Cascade wrote:So this means goodbye to third party trading as well, right? It sounds nice, but the "no trading whatsoever" also means that it'll be essentially impossible to plan for a specific build that requires specific (hard to find) items. You have to adapt your build to which legs you find. Which may or may not be a good thing. Although crafting to some extent can make up for this? I still predict a lot of people complaining about wanting to do build X (that happens to be the strongest one for their class) but not finding item Y (that is required for the build) despite having farmed for Z hours.  On November 14 2013 09:27 Black Gun wrote:On November 14 2013 08:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
to be clear, that trading only relates to legendaries/set items. i assume they will allow trading for found rare/blue/white items without limitation. although nobody will want them most likely given how good legendary and account bound crafted items are. in other words: what they plan is total garbage. yes, indeed. wish we were wrong... fortunately, i am not one of those unlucky guys and found 3p vyr and 2p tals after 1 month of playtime. with rrog, i can play the build i wanted. *phew* still sucks for those who get unlucky...
Only 5 pieces of set in one month seems kinda unlucky to me.
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I can't imagine continuing to play once I get the items I want. Probably a rift or two, but I'd get bored really quickly. I play a wizard and alternate between a frozen orb and an arcane torrent build. Perfectly viable without any specific items.
On May 01 2014 00:17 Nekovivie wrote:
Only 5 pieces of set in one month seems kinda unlucky to me.
I'm sure there were 934754973092 pcs of Blackthorne's to go with those 5 pcs.
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On May 01 2014 00:18 andrewlt wrote:
I'm sure there were 934754973092 pcs of Blackthorne's to go with those 5 pcs.
For all the Blackthorne outrage, I got just 4 pieces near the release and then nothing since then. My most common leg salvages are bracers and 2h weapons. I think I've had 10-15 slave bonds. How many Blackthornes have people been actually getting?
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On May 01 2014 00:18 andrewlt wrote:I can't imagine continuing to play once I get the items I want. Probably a rift or two, but I'd get bored really quickly. I play a wizard and alternate between a frozen orb and an arcane torrent build. Perfectly viable without any specific items. Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 00:17 Nekovivie wrote:
Only 5 pieces of set in one month seems kinda unlucky to me.
I'm sure there were 934754973092 pcs of Blackthorne's to go with those 5 pcs.
yeah, i just finished the vyr set after some lucky drops, and im kind of bored with wiz now. taking a break for now, but may play crusader when i get back.
although i generally like loot 2.0, i am sad that farming with my beefed up wiz doesn't net me good items for other classes, not even WD....
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Yeah, I'm also sad that it's very hard to farm for other characters. Prior to Ros, I would use my monk to equip my DH and my Wiz (in HC). Nowadays, I must use the class that needs stuff to farm them. It's not too bad, but still a small anoyance.
Regarding the Blackthorne sets, man I envy all the people complaining of finding it too much. This set is pretty awesome in HC and I only found 2 pieces so far (after nearly 100 hours of gameplay)
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HC is kind of unplayable recently. i lost a good wiz to soem sort of disconnect/bug and while power leveling another one, everyone got mass disconnected again. it's rly bad
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FConnectionUK
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On May 01 2014 03:12 oneofthem wrote:
HC is kind of unplayable recently. i lost a good wiz to soem sort of disconnect/bug and while power leveling another one, everyone got mass disconnected again. it's rly bad
Oh no! Did you lose the wizard to save my DH? Damn, sorry about that! I'll plvl you whenever you want as long as I'm on.
Thanks for saving my DH again!
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On May 01 2014 03:21 FConnectionUK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 03:12 oneofthem wrote:
HC is kind of unplayable recently. i lost a good wiz to soem sort of disconnect/bug and while power leveling another one, everyone got mass disconnected again. it's rly bad Oh no! Did you lose the wizard to save my DH? Damn, sorry about that! I'll plvl you whenever you want as long as I'm on. Thanks for saving my DH again!
nah the wiz is alive. james bond style
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Is there a TL clan on EU? Been leveling a crusader and ultimately want to be some kind of blessed shield machine. I mostly play on Americas but I figure having something to do when Americas is down (despite the massive lag that comes with that, as I found out Tuesday rofl) would be cool.
I found out how weird it is to level up starting from nothing, to be honest I guess for a newer player playing on normal the whole way through it's a relatively smooth leveling experience (taking longer to gain levels give more chances for decent at-level gear to drop making nothing a challenge) but I've been bouncing around between normal and elite and the only thing keeping me functional has been lucky legendary weapon drops. 15 levels to go!
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On May 01 2014 04:29 ObviousOne wrote:
Is there a TL clan on EU? Been leveling a crusader and ultimately want to be some kind of blessed shield machine. I mostly play on Americas but I figure having something to do when Americas is down (despite the massive lag that comes with that, as I found out Tuesday rofl) would be cool.
I found out how weird it is to level up starting from nothing, to be honest I guess for a newer player playing on normal the whole way through it's a relatively smooth leveling experience (taking longer to gain levels give more chances for decent at-level gear to drop making nothing a challenge) but I've been bouncing around between normal and elite and the only thing keeping me functional has been lucky legendary weapon drops. 15 levels to go!
yes, that "shit, things are starting to go really slow. i must find a better weapon before i lvl up"-feeling is really strange...
once you have gear, it becomes a cakewalk though... 1-> 15 is easy even without gear, then highlvl rubies will carry you through till lvl 40 when you can start wearing lvl reduced lvl 70 stuff.
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As i basically started fresh, you can play directly on hard. I am sure you could play expert, but it isn't worth the hassle. But the 75% extra xp is priceless.
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On May 01 2014 04:59 Godwrath wrote:
As i basically started fresh, you can play directly on hard. I am sure you could play expert, but it isn't worth the hassle. But the 75% extra xp is priceless.
In retrospect I should have done just that. Just cruising through normal bounties so I'll have plenty of fragments ready to rift it forward right after I hit 70 and acquire some toughness.
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On May 01 2014 00:24 mancomputerman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 00:18 andrewlt wrote:
I'm sure there were 934754973092 pcs of Blackthorne's to go with those 5 pcs. For all the Blackthorne outrage, I got just 4 pieces near the release and then nothing since then. My most common leg salvages are bracers and 2h weapons. I think I've had 10-15 slave bonds. How many Blackthornes have people been actually getting?
I mostly play on my Wizard/WD, and I've gotten 3 Blackthorne's Vest. 1 Pants. 1 ammy. So not that many tbh. They're really solid pieces to have while you're waiting for clase specific set items. You just need to roll main stat, which really isn't that hard, and the 2 item set bonus for it is really good, and the 3rd one is not bad if you have Royal Ring. It gets too much shit for what's actually a solid set for all classes.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Its not neccesarily that
its the fact that everytime Chest amor lights up I am like yeaaaah Akkarans
then I pick it up
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Caldeum1977 Posts
Yeah for me getting blackthorne's would be perfectly okay, and in fact better than a lot of other items, if not for the fact that I see the amulet or chest drop and inwardly get really excited for a potential Tal Rasha's and then get disappointed.
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I'd be alright with junk legendaries dropping as much as they did if legendaries in general dropped more. The current rift-drop rates should be what normal rates are and then increase the current rift drops by 50% or something.
Without the ability to trade, we need a more reasonable way to get them.
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Blackthorn amulet is big troll. I don't think it's possible for a good roll on that since it always seems to have IAS and Life% from what I can tell. Both stats are undesirable to most specs. I'm not aggravated enough to salvage it without identifying it but I still don't expect anything when I do.
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It really highlights another big disparity, which is that CC/CD still reigns supreme for everyone. Some of the other mods really need to be buffed considerably so CC/CD don't rule every item. +elemental damage is a good start but things like AS and LpS are pretty poor.
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This treasure goblin keeps following me around, is this some kind of bug?
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You're probably wearing a puzzle ring
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