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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 19 2013 06:12 GMT
#15801
On August 19 2013 14:26 Whole wrote:
I never beat the game normally yet (played through the first two difficulties) . Should I try Hardcore, or be sure to complete the game first before trying HC.

doesnt really matter much. but i would suggest finishing the game through hell before you try hardcore so that you have an understanding of how difficult it gets. i wouldnt suggest trying inferno hardcore until you at least beat inferno normal. you would be surprised at how easy normal/nightmare are compared to hell/inferno.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 14:23:47
August 19 2013 14:23 GMT
#15802
On August 18 2013 18:21 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 08:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 17 2013 08:03 Duka08 wrote:
Alright I'm slowly getting back into the swing of things. Few more questions about kicking off inferno (wizard, if it matters):

- I know kind of what DPS levels I should be aiming for based on what MP I want to do and how much I want to spend. What other secondary stats should I be focusing on when I buy new pieces? Is it still all about dat All Resist?

- Is there some level of gear where I should begin to care about life steal? Or is that pretty much always? And do I care more about LoH or % of damage done?

- Are there certain legendaries with effects or whatever that are important enough to shop for even if I buy one of the cheaper ones available? Someone above mentioned Maximus for your Enchantress.. something along those lines.


Thanks a ton for your help guys. This is really helping maintain my interest in playing, because I was honestly burned out and overwhelmed with the idea of starting inferno/farming seriously.

you want: int, vit, crit chance, crit dmg, ias on everything you can
other things you want: life on hit/life steal, ap on crit

life steal is basically only on weapons, life on hit is on quite a few items. if you do less than 50,000 dps, loh is probably better; if you do more than 50,000 dps life steal may be better. i havent calculated it. if you have high ias, loh is better.

you just want a high dmg, one handed weapon. need to decide what build you will do. if you are doing a cm/ww then you will want the legendary set, forgot the name, its a green wand with orange ball on top and a corresponding source. if you are doing high dmg build like archon then you want a triumvirate and a black weapon (i.e, pure dmg, no elemental). you can get a two hand skorn for cheap (it has life steal) and go very far with that in inferno. they were dirt cheap when i played in december, so i imagine they are basically free now.

for your mercs, i used the sorc and grand vizier for more mf/gf.

this is my char, i havent played since december 2012, and i am wearing my gold find/pickup radius gear.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813

If you are a startup wizard, you probably want to start archon, as it is cheaper to get going. There are plenty of guides around (search on youtube) on how to get a viable archon wiz for 1M, while you need a larger budget to do something meaningful as cm/ww. As archon you are aiming at around 100k dps to keep archon online all the time in act3 MP0, which you should be able to get very cheaply if you follow any guide. If you go archon, there is no reason to get dps through attack speed as it is more expensive, but rather go for int, cc and cd. The reason it is more expensive is that all the cm/ww wizards want ias, so then you have to comepete with them.

And for archon, you want life steal rather than LoH, but it is not mandatory (although get it if you can!) from the very start if you are on a very tight budget. Again, LoH is very expensive as you are competing with the cm/ww wizards. More important to get your dps up to, and maybe a bit above, 100k first, which should be easy.

Once at 100k dps, you don't really need the deamon from the mercenary (I find it more annoying that they take agro from some mobs, and they split up and take longer to kill and it is harder to keep up archon), but better at that point to get magic find (and a hellfire ring for the XP if you have one) on them imo.

For defence for an archon, you want at least 30k life (more if you can), and as much AR and armour as you can get. For the typical wizard, 100 armour is worth around 15 AR, so a max roll of AR is worth more than a max roll of armour, but armour is far from worthless. Also individual resists are useful. Physical for reflect damage (if you dont have LS), and arcane for arcane sentries. Once you get LS though, you can get away with a lot less defence even at higher MPs.

Thanks for your input. I already found the videos you mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_RQMloHKI) Saturday morning and spent most of Saturday decking out and trying out the archon build, which I'm finding quite fun. I'm still only in Hell lol, so it's quite silly, but nonetheless I think I did pretty well for buying gear on a budget using that video for ideas. Then Saturday evening my internet went out, and it's been out since (in the office now...). Super bummed, I've been itching to keep playing.
couponbook
Profile Joined June 2013
United States4 Posts
August 20 2013 19:21 GMT
#15803
http://couponbookmmo.blogspot.kr/2013/08/devilian-online-release-date.html

what do you guys think of devilian online?

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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 21 2013 02:25 GMT
#15804
On August 21 2013 04:21 couponbook wrote:
http://couponbookmmo.blogspot.kr/2013/08/devilian-online-release-date.html

what do you guys think of devilian online?

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looks better than diablo 3, but thats not saying anything. Congratz on knocking off one of the worst games ever made
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
August 21 2013 14:04 GMT
#15805
On August 19 2013 14:26 Whole wrote:
I never beat the game normally yet (played through the first two difficulties) . Should I try Hardcore, or be sure to complete the game first before trying HC.


I would at least beat normal first, just so that you get a basic familiarity with everything. I switched over to hardcore shortly after clearing normal for the first time. I still have a Lvl 31 DH sitting all alone in Softcore. My only experience with nightmare/hell/inferno is from the HC side of things, and I actually find it kind of amusing how non HC people gear up. In all its been a lot of fun, and I'm enjoying D3 a lot more than I thought I would when I first picked it up. it also wasn't too difficult getting to level 60 and inferno back when I knew next to nothing about the game, but I guess you have to be prepared to lose some guys on the way.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 21 2013 18:39 GMT
#15806
Yea when I meant I never beat the game normally, I meant I never beat Inferno on "softcore" mode. I beat it on normal and nightmare difficulty so far.

Also about the gearing up and stuff. I haven't played D3 in ages, so when should I stop progressing and start focusing on gearing? My guess is after you beat Nightmare, you should try for gear and level 60 before trying progress in Hell and go on to Inferno. That's just a wild guess though.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 18:50:04
August 21 2013 18:49 GMT
#15807
On August 22 2013 03:39 Whole wrote:
Yea when I meant I never beat the game normally, I meant I never beat Inferno on "softcore" mode. I beat it on normal and nightmare difficulty so far.

Also about the gearing up and stuff. I haven't played D3 in ages, so when should I stop progressing and start focusing on gearing? My guess is after you beat Nightmare, you should try for gear and level 60 before trying progress in Hell and go on to Inferno. That's just a wild guess though.

Normal through Hell is a linear, on rails, experience. If you just play through the game and kill most enemies you run across (including side dungeons) you'll reach level 60 by Act 3 Hell - and the game difficulty matches that progression. And if you use Monster Power or use +exp% equipment, you'll level even faster and don't even need to explore.

Inferno and level 60 is everything in this game, and Normal-Hell is much like a 12 hour tutorial.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 21 2013 18:50 GMT
#15808
Okay, so it's Inferno where I should step back and grind out gear. Correct?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 21 2013 18:54 GMT
#15809
On August 22 2013 03:39 Whole wrote:
Yea when I meant I never beat the game normally, I meant I never beat Inferno on "softcore" mode. I beat it on normal and nightmare difficulty so far.

Also about the gearing up and stuff. I haven't played D3 in ages, so when should I stop progressing and start focusing on gearing? My guess is after you beat Nightmare, you should try for gear and level 60 before trying progress in Hell and go on to Inferno. That's just a wild guess though.

pre-60 all you really care about are slots and gems (get someone at lvl 60 to give you better gems, at least the squares, which drop like candy at halloween for lvl 60 players). you can play self-found for gear through 60. at 60, you should start worrying about gear.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
August 21 2013 23:22 GMT
#15810
I'm returning back because the expansion trailer pumped me

My old account was reset because someone hacked it, so I have to start all over again: which is the most amusing class? I was using a monk but around paragon level 14 it was a bit boring...
Dating thread on TL LUL
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 21 2013 23:35 GMT
#15811
On August 22 2013 08:22 SoSexy wrote:
I'm returning back because the expansion trailer pumped me

My old account was reset because someone hacked it, so I have to start all over again: which is the most amusing class? I was using a monk but around paragon level 14 it was a bit boring...

witch doctor can turn into a chicken. thats pretty amusing.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 14:13:16
August 22 2013 14:04 GMT
#15812
On August 22 2013 03:50 Whole wrote:
Okay, so it's Inferno where I should step back and grind out gear. Correct?


There is diminishing returns on xp. As you level up, you will get less and less xp from the same monsters. So steadily moving through normal-hell is ideal. A lot of people will pick up a Lvl 60 weapon from the AH with a reduced level requirement at around level 45-50. That will give them 5-12k dps which lets them breeze through inferno. Then the grind begins.


On August 22 2013 08:22 SoSexy wrote:
I'm returning back because the expansion trailer pumped me

My old account was reset because someone hacked it, so I have to start all over again: which is the most amusing class? I was using a monk but around paragon level 14 it was a bit boring...


Might want to give witch docter a try. They are really versatile and have great skill variety.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
August 23 2013 02:56 GMT
#15813
Anyone else oddly just get sent a paypal deposit from Blizzard? I haven't sold anything (or played really) in a few months, and suddenly get a transfer for $116.29, which after searching my email, turns out to also be the value of a belt I sold back in April.

Free money I guess? Woo!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
August 23 2013 15:20 GMT
#15814
On August 23 2013 11:56 Burrfoot wrote:
Anyone else oddly just get sent a paypal deposit from Blizzard? I haven't sold anything (or played really) in a few months, and suddenly get a transfer for $116.29, which after searching my email, turns out to also be the value of a belt I sold back in April.

Free money I guess? Woo!

I do a ton of trading through the RMAH and so you got me excited for the possibility of getting more money, but no, I was let down
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 23 2013 20:57 GMT
#15815
I'm really getting into the swing of my CM/WW build on my wiz, and played Archon for a while as well. Both are fun, and both my sets are pretty good budget (1-2mil) sets.

I'd like to hear about farming routes, both for XP and items (or both?). On Archon I've been doing the Alkeizer route on MP1, and with CM/WW I've been doing an act 1 route on MP4:
Festering Woods; Weeping Hollow; Northern Highlands to Hunting Grounds to Manor; Halls of Agony lvl 2. (and sometimes the jail? I can't tell if it's worth it or not with the doors and maze-like at times)

I'm only paragon lvl 13 atm, but I'm much more motivated to play (important) by the prospect of finding legendaries, rather than grinding paragon. I know that having high paragon makes legendaries much more common obviously (I have very little or no MF on my gear), but I know I'll get burned out if I focus solely on paragon instead of trying new routes and, more importantly, doing item-focused routes.

Share your thoughts. I finally found good resources on wiz builds (especially ArchonTheWizard on youtube, very very good!) and the lot, but now I'm back to feeling clueless when it comes to farming, other than the Alkeizer route which I feel like is the only one with any discussion?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 18:23:03
August 25 2013 18:21 GMT
#15816
Just do whatever one you find fun at the time, or you can hop through all the acts at mp whatever and farm keys while your at it. Just because it's only 10% in mp1 does't mean you won't get it. Unless your really sitting down to focus and grind out the exp, it's unlikely you're going that efficienly to begin with. An easy way to boost your exp/legs per hour is learning which rares to ignore since so many of them are worthless and it takes a long time to pick them all up and ID them etc when you add it all up.

ArchonTheWizard has a video showing a farming route for each act minus act 4 I think, but you say you've already seen those.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 25 2013 22:24 GMT
#15817
On August 26 2013 03:21 Najda wrote:
Just do whatever one you find fun at the time, or you can hop through all the acts at mp whatever and farm keys while your at it. Just because it's only 10% in mp1 does't mean you won't get it. Unless your really sitting down to focus and grind out the exp, it's unlikely you're going that efficienly to begin with. An easy way to boost your exp/legs per hour is learning which rares to ignore since so many of them are worthless and it takes a long time to pick them all up and ID them etc when you add it all up.

ArchonTheWizard has a video showing a farming route for each act minus act 4 I think, but you say you've already seen those.

I've seen his build videos but no route videos. Will look now! Thanks for that, not sure how I missed them.

I'm pretty much only picking up ilvl 63s and jewelry, for now.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#15818
I just opened my battle.net account for tje first time in ages and saw I had a Diablo 3 starter edition "play for free" .

Game is free or just some type of demo ?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
August 27 2013 10:32 GMT
#15819
Players on Starter Edition game licenses have the following restrictions:

Cannot progress past the Skeleton King.
Level 13 cap.
Matchmaking available only with other Starter Edition players.
No Auction House access (Real Money or Gold).
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
August 27 2013 12:31 GMT
#15820
Logged into my asia account as u.s was down, and I see a buff icon that says happy anniversary..
Looks like they are giving us free 25% mf, and free 25% exp today..till whenever.
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