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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 25 2013 07:04 GMT
#15321
Suing over a UI having an hp meter on the left, mana on the right (yes, even in the shape of orbs!) and skills/pots in the middle is like Apple suing other manufacturers over the candy bar shape being exclusively for the I-phone. Almost every rpg in the history of gaming that uses hp and mana has used something like this at some point.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 25 2013 07:59 GMT
#15322
On January 25 2013 07:22 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 06:47 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys probably know this, but I was blown away as to how similar Path of Exile is to D3 (open beta launched yesterday). For example, check out this stream: http://www.twitch.tv/anacletus_ii (a gentleman of TL that isn't on the sidebar). The characters look the same, the interface is the same to the font and colours, and you run around killing monsters for items where the dungeons are randomly generated. Anyone know why Blizz hasn't copyrighted the developers back to the stone age?


The PoE devs have been quoted many times as saying that their game is what the sequel to D2 should have been.

From my limited play experience, the engine is far inferior to d3, but the itemization, talent tree, currency system and such are all very progressive and unique. Tons of customization and depth in all the ways D3 is missing... However, D3 is a much better looking game and the physics and gameplay are much more consistent and smooth.


Interesting angle, that makes it much more interesting. As a long time Angband fan, I might live with worse graphics...

On January 25 2013 16:04 RuskiPanda wrote:
Suing over a UI having an hp meter on the left, mana on the right (yes, even in the shape of orbs!) and skills/pots in the middle is like Apple suing other manufacturers over the candy bar shape being exclusively for the I-phone. Almost every rpg in the history of gaming that uses hp and mana has used something like this at some point.


And as Apple sues everyone that looks at them the wrong way, I asked my question ^^
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
January 25 2013 20:13 GMT
#15323
There an ETA on the patch going live?
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3992 Posts
January 26 2013 02:42 GMT
#15324
Just the engine being inferior and the balance not being clear yet for PoE makes me think this will be much like the MMO games which tried to beat WoW and ended up unsuccesful. The first 2-3 months everyone will be all over it, then they'll get sick of things not being as smooth and they'll go back do D3 or quit.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
January 26 2013 02:46 GMT
#15325
On January 26 2013 11:42 aseq wrote:
Just the engine being inferior and the balance not being clear yet for PoE makes me think this will be much like the MMO games which tried to beat WoW and ended up unsuccesful. The first 2-3 months everyone will be all over it, then they'll get sick of things not being as smooth and they'll go back do D3 or quit.


You clearly haven't played PoE. Balance is very clear. Just look at the top 10 ladder right now. The only class it's missing is witch/duelist. Nobody is going back to D3. Not when PoE is going to have hardcore races and a world pvp league.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 26 2013 04:04 GMT
#15326
path of exile looks like utter garbage. had a free beta key and didn't bother because it looks like such shit.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
January 26 2013 05:36 GMT
#15327
On January 26 2013 13:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
path of exile looks like utter garbage. had a free beta key and didn't bother because it looks like such shit.


Yes because diablo 3 is graphically intensive... /sigh.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 05:53:48
January 26 2013 05:52 GMT
#15328
basically, the graphics and the technical realization of d3 are top notch. the gameplay is really smooth. but the storyline, item system and char customization as well as quest system are very dull. PoE has great item system and customization as well as a much better quest system and endgame content - but the game is clunky and very nonsmooth.

what we basically need is the combination of the two. since this is not realistic, i wonder which game has more potential to become what i really want from a modern action rpg. and the answer has to be d3, simply because the "core" of d3 is coded very well, its just the content that is lacking. but this content can be added quite easily later on via patches or expansions, while PoE will have a really hard time getting rid of its fundamental technical issues.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
January 26 2013 06:06 GMT
#15329
On January 26 2013 14:52 Black Gun wrote:
basically, the graphics and the technical realization of d3 are top notch. the gameplay is really smooth. but the storyline, item system and char customization as well as quest system are very dull. PoE has great item system and customization as well as a much better quest system and endgame content - but the game is clunky and very nonsmooth.

what we basically need is the combination of the two. since this is not realistic, i wonder which game has more potential to become what i really want from a modern action rpg. and the answer has to be d3, simply because the "core" of d3 is coded very well, its just the content that is lacking. but this content can be added quite easily later on via patches or expansions, while PoE will have a really hard time getting rid of its fundamental technical issues.


Except everyone agrees the core of d3 is the issue. The fact that the core of the game revolves around two stats. Your main stat and vitality. Good luck changing that. There is literally no way to fix that issue without releasing an xpac/pissing off the entire player base who has spent hours/real money on gear.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 26 2013 06:16 GMT
#15330
On January 26 2013 15:06 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:52 Black Gun wrote:
basically, the graphics and the technical realization of d3 are top notch. the gameplay is really smooth. but the storyline, item system and char customization as well as quest system are very dull. PoE has great item system and customization as well as a much better quest system and endgame content - but the game is clunky and very nonsmooth.

what we basically need is the combination of the two. since this is not realistic, i wonder which game has more potential to become what i really want from a modern action rpg. and the answer has to be d3, simply because the "core" of d3 is coded very well, its just the content that is lacking. but this content can be added quite easily later on via patches or expansions, while PoE will have a really hard time getting rid of its fundamental technical issues.


Except everyone agrees the core of d3 is the issue. The fact that the core of the game revolves around two stats. Your main stat and vitality. Good luck changing that. There is literally no way to fix that issue without releasing an xpac/pissing off the entire player base who has spent hours/real money on gear.



Doesn't everyone already know that as soon as the first xpac hits all of their gear will be obsolete?
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 26 2013 06:17 GMT
#15331
On January 26 2013 14:36 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
path of exile looks like utter garbage. had a free beta key and didn't bother because it looks like such shit.


Yes because diablo 3 is graphically intensive... /sigh.

poe doesnt even look like it was made this decade. fire the shitty graphic designers. its absolutely horrible. i could care less about how good its items, customizations, whatever else the circlejerks want to praise it for---it looks horrible.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 26 2013 07:39 GMT
#15332
On January 26 2013 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:36 Infernal_dream wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
path of exile looks like utter garbage. had a free beta key and didn't bother because it looks like such shit.


Yes because diablo 3 is graphically intensive... /sigh.

poe doesnt even look like it was made this decade. fire the shitty graphic designers. its absolutely horrible. i could care less about how good its items, customizations, whatever else the circlejerks want to praise it for---it looks horrible.


I agree the graphics look terrible, but then people still play games like Dwarf Kingdom and Nethack so I guess for some gamers graphics aren't everything.

I like the idea of some of POE's features- HC characters going to SC when they die, maps you can find in game that have particular challenges and rewards and temporary ladder races. These are all things that the D3 devs should look into adding to D3.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 08:43:38
January 26 2013 08:43 GMT
#15333
On January 26 2013 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:36 Infernal_dream wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
path of exile looks like utter garbage. had a free beta key and didn't bother because it looks like such shit.


Yes because diablo 3 is graphically intensive... /sigh.

poe doesnt even look like it was made this decade. fire the shitty graphic designers. its absolutely horrible. i could care less about how good its items, customizations, whatever else the circlejerks want to praise it for---it looks horrible.


graphics trumping game play is one of the major problems in the gaming industry. devs want to make pretty games that get a big attraction and sell quickly instead of working on the hard stuff like, depth.
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
January 26 2013 10:37 GMT
#15334
On January 26 2013 16:39 tomatriedes wrote:
HC characters going to SC when they die


What? If Blizz had thought of THAT idea, it would have cost you a $25 server transfer fee (being a PREMIUM service and all)
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Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
January 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#15335
Also you can pay 25 more to go back HC from SC. Its another Premium service
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
January 26 2013 14:58 GMT
#15336
On January 26 2013 15:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:36 Infernal_dream wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
path of exile looks like utter garbage. had a free beta key and didn't bother because it looks like such shit.


Yes because diablo 3 is graphically intensive... /sigh.

poe doesnt even look like it was made this decade. fire the shitty graphic designers. its absolutely horrible. i could care less about how good its items, customizations, whatever else the circlejerks want to praise it for---it looks horrible.


Meh. The graphics are functional, and aesthetically it's a lot closer to the old diablo games than diablo 3 is itself. For an industry primarily fed off nostalgia, maybe that was a wise choice.
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Greenstripe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States164 Posts
January 26 2013 16:54 GMT
#15337
PoE didn't do much for me, I'm content to see where D3 will go, and I have high hopes for it.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#15338
On January 27 2013 01:54 Greenstripe wrote:
PoE didn't do much for me, I'm content to see where D3 will go, and I have high hopes for it.


I played for 30 minutes and just didn't have any desire to go on, it felt so clunky. Awesome skill tree or not, it just didn't feel fun. Maybe you need to progress farther in the game and get into the theory crafting of builds to really enjoy it. Meh.I agree with the comments above regarding D3 having a solid core of code that gives the game a fluid feel, but it needs more diversity and content.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
January 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#15339
On January 27 2013 01:54 Greenstripe wrote:
PoE didn't do much for me, I'm content to see where D3 will go, and I have high hopes for it.


You should have some patience, though. Some community manager guy pretty much confirmed that they won't have major content patches at all (that stuff is saved for expansions). The patches in D3 vanilla will all be stuff that isn't all too complex to implement.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
January 26 2013 20:25 GMT
#15340
It's difficult for me to continue playing D3 currently knowing that the content isn't really going to change drastically before the next expansion. I still really enjoy the gameplay (and really that's about the only thing that's enjoyable in D3) but if I'm going to be spending 15+ hours a week on gaming I'd prefer not to spend all of that time on farming act 3 and checking the AH.
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