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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
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Ig
United States417 Posts
On August 26 2012 05:05 Gandalf wrote: Can someone please explain why DHs are reputed to have the highest dps? I'm a 55k dps DH who plays with a 42kdps tankmage, and his overall damage in fights (with blizzard + poison hydras) seems greater than mine (hungering arrow + cluster shot). Displayed dps isn't even close to accurate for aoe (or single target really, its just autoattack dps) and judging by your dps, cluster arrow may be inefficient in your gear. DHs have high ability ratios + straight up damage boosting passives, there's also cluster arrow crits basically decimating packs. We have high single target (single pack) burst and *probably* higher sustain than others for whatever that's worth, but in aoe WW barbs and wizards are comparable or even better in some cases. | ||
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Meatpuppet
United States86 Posts
functioned more like marked for death(a debuff) it might be usable. Spirit barrage is odd, if they buff its damage too much it could be OP because it can single out any target and ignore any obstacles(walls/other beasts). It might be usable as is if you are running a pets build with thorns(use it to pick off the ranged units) | ||
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
On August 26 2012 05:47 Meatpuppet wrote: Locust swarm is fine. Haunt still sucks, does too little damage and takes too long to jump to another target. If huant functioned more like marked for death(a debuff) it might be usable. Spirit barrage is odd, if they buff its damage too much it could be OP because it can single out any target and ignore any obstacles(walls/other beasts). It might be usable as is if you are running a pets build with thorns(use it to pick off the ranged units) High mana cost AoE spells suck now that firebomb got buffed. Firebomb deals much more sustained dps than any other AoE skill. Locust swarm is really inferior. And pet thorns build is retarded. The max thorns damage is 20k.. Even if your pets have 100% thorns damage it still takes forever to kill trash mobs. I'd rather not waste magic property slots on thorns. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On August 26 2012 05:32 Ig wrote: Displayed dps isn't even close to accurate for aoe (or single target really, its just autoattack dps) and judging by your dps, cluster arrow may be inefficient in your gear. DHs have high ability ratios + straight up damage boosting passives, there's also cluster arrow crits basically decimating packs. We have high single target (single pack) burst and *probably* higher sustain than others for whatever that's worth, but in aoe WW barbs and wizards are comparable or even better in some cases. I see. How is this balanced then, though? I was under the impression the extreme fragility of DHs is balanced by giving them the most dps, but if wizards and WW barbs can compete in this regard, and be much tankier at the same time, isn't this sort of... unbalanced? Also, what do you suggest I replace cluster arrow with? I'm at 55k dps, 40$ crit chance, 40% crit damage. At what dps does cluster arrow become efficient? Thanks for the reply! | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On August 26 2012 06:15 Gandalf wrote: I see. How is this balanced then, though? I was under the impression the extreme fragility of DHs is balanced by giving them the most dps, but if wizards and WW barbs can compete in this regard, and be much tankier at the same time, isn't this sort of... unbalanced? Also, what do you suggest I replace cluster arrow with? I'm at 55k dps, 40$ crit chance, 40% crit damage. At what dps does cluster arrow become efficient? Thanks for the reply! Your crit chance is fine, but you crit damage is absurdly low. I would say aim for 200% crit damage on the stat sheet, so 50% natural plus at least 150% gear bonuses. | ||
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
On August 26 2012 06:25 Chairman Ray wrote: Your crit chance is fine, but you crit damage is absurdly low. I would say aim for 200% crit damage on the stat sheet, so 50% natural plus at least 150% gear bonuses. Definitely a typo. Minimum crit damage is 50%.. With 55k dps and such high crit, it probably means that your weapon dps and dex is low.. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
Edit: Weapon is 1055 dps, 166 dex, 70% crit damage. Total dex is 1727. | ||
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subzer0
67 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On August 26 2012 11:34 subzer0 wrote: how do you guys still play this game? for great justice, and because it's a good game. | ||
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nettleberry
United States201 Posts
On August 26 2012 11:34 subzer0 wrote: how do you guys still play this game? Paragon levels. Though gw2 just came out so... | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
stumble on this :') | ||
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Ig
United States417 Posts
On August 26 2012 06:15 Gandalf wrote: I see. How is this balanced then, though? I was under the impression the extreme fragility of DHs is balanced by giving them the most dps, but if wizards and WW barbs can compete in this regard, and be much tankier at the same time, isn't this sort of... unbalanced? To be quite frank, it just isn't balanced, not even close. For your gear if you can afford it, try to up your crit dmg with maybe a new bow that has crit dmg and a socket. You can also try an elemental arrow build but since your crit % is pretty high already you can just shoot for more crit dmg and/or a higher dps xbow. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On August 26 2012 05:47 Meatpuppet wrote: Locust swarm is fine. Haunt still sucks, does too little damage and takes too long to jump to another target. If huant functioned more like marked for death(a debuff) it might be usable. Spirit barrage is odd, if they buff its damage too much it could be OP because it can single out any target and ignore any obstacles(walls/other beasts). It might be usable as is if you are running a pets build with thorns(use it to pick off the ranged units) locust might be ok if you look at it on a "per cast" basis, but if you look at the skillslots: It takes a whole skillslot to basically do like 50% weapon damage per second in an area. There are much better ae spells who do much more with that skillslot. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
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Meatpuppet
United States86 Posts
The only way to know if a skill is good or bad is to test it out, and for the gear I use it is a very good/practical choice. Firebomb is great but if you are using splinters, like I am still using, locust swarm is better for that aoe and it is obvious why. While locust swarm is doing its thing I am focusing down the larger threats, i.e. those closest to me, or those with the most health/damage potential. | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
I cant even log back on without a full restart Ok so I cant even log into sc2 either now. This is strange, nothing has been changed from yesterday and it was fine then | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On August 26 2012 19:42 TheMooseHeed wrote: I keep getting disconnected from the server even though my internet isnt failing. So annoying as I am trying to progress in act three and keep having to start again + losing my valour TT. Any one else having this problem or is it on my end? I cant even log back on without a full restart Ok so I cant even log into sc2 either now. This is strange, nothing has been changed from yesterday and it was fine then Today I've been getting some bad lag spikes that arent my end (I believe) and hasnt happened since the patch came out. Died at least 5 times due to it but on the positive side they havent lasted very long at all. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
all the class forums are completely spammed by real money sellers. Why isnt blizzard deleting that crap. It looks bad and it cuts from their profits. | ||
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
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