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gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
August 10 2012 16:04 GMT
#13601
looks really nice
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 16:22:47
August 10 2012 16:17 GMT
#13602
On August 11 2012 00:33 ulan-bat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 00:21 chiuna wrote:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/5617583/104_Systems_Preview-10_08_2012

Sounds like a lot of changes that will make co-op play easier, which I am looking forward to. But it also sounds like 1.0.4 is still a long way off.

Looks good.

- white mobs with more health
- elite with less health
- no more invulnerable minion
- no more enrage on elites
- no more full healing on elites
- higher max dps for ilvl61/62
- higher max dps for two-handers


I like it, especially the first two. It was getting pretty stupid killing white mobs in 1-2 shots while still taking a long time to kill elites. Killing scores of white mobs was a huge part of the fun of the first two games.

edit: Oh bleh, I misread the white mob change by a factor of 10.
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 16:29:48
August 10 2012 16:28 GMT
#13603
I don't really agree with all the nerf's to making inferno content easier. They are already buffing drop rates on normal mobs, buffing items, and buffing skills so its l like a double nerf. For people with decent gear, the game is already easy as it is.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2012 18:39 GMT
#13604
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 10 2012 18:43 GMT
#13605
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=

Dafuq athene has 800k dps??????
=Þ
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
August 10 2012 18:48 GMT
#13606
On August 11 2012 03:43 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=

Dafuq athene has 800k dps??????

If you log out with every damage buff and shrine available on you, you can get this yes.
here i am
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:28:53
August 10 2012 18:55 GMT
#13607
On August 11 2012 03:48 wintergt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 03:43 Heh_ wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=

Dafuq athene has 800k dps??????

If you log out with every damage buff and shrine available on you, you can get this yes.

Cheating -_-

I tried to calculate how he could get that, but I only reached 360k.. (with 100% SS and SA)

I'll post my calculations here:
Base weapon dps: 1303.6
2707 Dex: 1303.6 * 28.07 = 36592
69 IAS 36592 * 1.69 = 61840
100% CC, 330% CD: 61840 * 4.4 = 272908
6% poison, 6% holy damage: 272908 * 1.06 * 1.06 = 305730
Steady aim: 305730 * 1.2 = 366876.
=Þ
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:13:01
August 10 2012 19:05 GMT
#13608
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=


Heh my dead HC DH would be #1 in world on DPS i see, and it died to a DC, gotta love it:D. New one not quite there yet though!
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
August 10 2012 22:06 GMT
#13609
On August 11 2012 03:55 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 03:48 wintergt wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:43 Heh_ wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=

Dafuq athene has 800k dps??????

If you log out with every damage buff and shrine available on you, you can get this yes.

Cheating -_-

I tried to calculate how he could get that, but I only reached 360k.. (with 100% SS and SA)

I'll post my calculations here:
Base weapon dps: 1303.6
2707 Dex: 1303.6 * 28.07 = 36592
69 IAS 36592 * 1.69 = 61840
100% CC, 330% CD: 61840 * 4.4 = 272908
6% poison, 6% holy damage: 272908 * 1.06 * 1.06 = 305730
Steady aim: 305730 * 1.2 = 366876.


he has 69 IAS on his equipment, but what's not shown on that site is the +25 ias (or w/e it is) from a shrine. Plus maybe he logged off with some buffs from other classes.
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Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 10 2012 23:31 GMT
#13610
On August 11 2012 07:06 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 03:55 Heh_ wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:48 wintergt wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:43 Heh_ wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=

Dafuq athene has 800k dps??????

If you log out with every damage buff and shrine available on you, you can get this yes.

Cheating -_-

I tried to calculate how he could get that, but I only reached 360k.. (with 100% SS and SA)

I'll post my calculations here:
Base weapon dps: 1303.6
2707 Dex: 1303.6 * 28.07 = 36592
69 IAS 36592 * 1.69 = 61840
100% CC, 330% CD: 61840 * 4.4 = 272908
6% poison, 6% holy damage: 272908 * 1.06 * 1.06 = 305730
Steady aim: 305730 * 1.2 = 366876.


he has 69 IAS on his equipment, but what's not shown on that site is the +25 ias (or w/e it is) from a shrine. Plus maybe he logged off with some buffs from other classes.

After you add 25 IAS, his dps reaches 420k. He needs scoundrel buff, WD's slam dance BBV, and a ton more to double his dps to 800k. It's cool if your cluster arrows explode for several million damage though. If you get lucky with a devouring arrow you might get 10 million damage...
=Þ
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
August 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#13611
The chat gem is back o.o its on the bottom of the accounts page....
I wrote a song once.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
August 10 2012 23:59 GMT
#13612
On August 11 2012 01:28 TheMango wrote:
I don't really agree with all the nerf's to making inferno content easier. They are already buffing drop rates on normal mobs, buffing items, and buffing skills so its l like a double nerf. For people with decent gear, the game is already easy as it is.

I don't think the nerfs are in a bad direction, but with how gear works players become too powerful at top gear levels. You can't have gear/players scaling like this at the top and also want a "challenge" or to not be bored. Conversely people also want to feel "powerful" in the game, but then the gear system comes up again with only the top really being able to achieve that.

As for the changes themselves, removal of invuln minions is a big one because it was one of the cheesier affixes that could be absolutely godawful for some. To go along with that, more affix tuning is something that should have been done ages ago, hopefully there will also be some small limitations on combos implemented as well for the lesser geared and progressing folk. Enrage timers were just a terrible idea to begin with. I feel some normal enemies should get more than a slight buff since post 1.03 most are cake even for those with crappy gear as long as you don't try to turret everything or dive into 50 mobs. Monster scaling nerf in parties is logical because their hp scales more than player dps and it can be punishing in some situations, which shouldn't be the case. I don't really think loot needs much of a buff now but I guess more magic item drops wouldn't hurt for making crafting easier and more viable as an upgrade path. The ilevel 61-62 weapon dps buff makes some sense with a legendary change since there are legendary weapons at those ilevels that are complete garbage partially because of their lower dps.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 11 2012 00:40 GMT
#13613
I am eager to see how the changes pan out. To me, the difficulty is almost a non-issue. People don't have problems with the huge gaps in difficulty because they lack skill but because they lack gear.

I understand that Diablo is supposed to be a 'farming game', but when you go through an act literally dozens of times and get nothing even remotely good, it really kills your desire to farm anymore. I go through the Class threads and the only advice I see is 'go to the AH'.

I also hope they fix the WD because I feel like the class is a failure.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
August 11 2012 01:07 GMT
#13614
I hate that they keep nerfing inferno. make the game harder, not easier. The whole game kinda falls apart, more then it already has, knowing there no longer is a challange.

=/

The only part I like is the 2hander buff, rest is kinda meh. I like it tough. I loved the old inferno, made me have something to aim for.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 02:05:00
August 11 2012 02:03 GMT
#13615
On August 11 2012 01:28 TheMango wrote:
I don't really agree with all the nerf's to making inferno content easier. They are already buffing drop rates on normal mobs, buffing items, and buffing skills so its l like a double nerf. For people with decent gear, the game is already easy as it is.

Time to make a new char, or go hardcore, or wait for their end-game patch.
Edit: or solo self-drop too, or naked, etc, etc. Diablo 2 forums should give you some hints as to how you can play Diablo for real fun.
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
August 11 2012 05:09 GMT
#13616
I think they need to scrap the game and start over or is too late for that already?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:52:08
August 11 2012 05:29 GMT
#13617
just wait for pvp and whatever arena style group play/rewards system. the skill set limitation is a bit of a problem though, so is the narrow itemization. the game feels pretty corporate in the sense that visual features and commercial incentives are given more importance while core gameplay mechanics seem rather thin.


you can introduce all sorts of dps-gear check in arena/minigames, add incentive to show off/feel 1337 etc etc and basically make this a game for 15 year olds in 25 year old bodies.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 06:19:00
August 11 2012 06:15 GMT
#13618
On August 11 2012 10:07 TheRealArtemis wrote:
I hate that they keep nerfing inferno. make the game harder, not easier. The whole game kinda falls apart, more then it already has, knowing there no longer is a challange.

=/

The only part I like is the 2hander buff, rest is kinda meh. I like it tough. I loved the old inferno, made me have something to aim for.

Sky high damage (more for ranged) is cheap difficulty inflation, not actual difficulty like more intelligent elite mobs and boss abilities being random as well as actually aimed at the player. New Inferno is harder unless you were already geared and/or able to boost alts.

To be on topic with the changes, I really feel they should be trying to churn something out for players to clear, maybe another like two levels a la Whimsyshire (minus ponies). Filler would be way better than the nothing and slow pace of changes they're giving us right now. Not like it would be too difficult with all the crappy copypasta they already did throughout the current ones. I facepalmed when Watchtower was the same environment as Cathedral even though in story they're centuries apart and completely different types of structures.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
Turin
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany72 Posts
August 11 2012 07:18 GMT
#13619
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=


Oh look I just found 100+ botters. Just search for lifetimekills. Everyone with 1mill+ kills has the same goldfind/pickup radius gear. Wonder if those will get banned.
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
August 11 2012 10:40 GMT
#13620
On August 11 2012 16:18 Turin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 03:39 skyR wrote:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/

Interesting to see how shitty your char is compared to others )=


Oh look I just found 100+ botters. Just search for lifetimekills. Everyone with 1mill+ kills has the same goldfind/pickup radius gear. Wonder if those will get banned.

They have those stats in real time and since day 1. What they do about it is still unknown.
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
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