it doesn't really matter, and u can gear ur barb to wreck act 1 with a couple hundred thousand

the blue shield is better
260 armor and way more resist all, plus even if the block chance is lower it blocks way more damage
but u can get a 40+ resist 60+ vit/str aegis for <50k

the blue armors probably better but it's not as clear cut as the other one. the blue armor gives more survivability but the yellow one adds a bunch of damage
u should be able to get a 40+ resist 60+ vit/str chest piece for <50k
it'll have less armor but the stats will be a lot better

LancerJ

United States160 Posts

June 17 2012 00:09 GMT

#12242

On June 17 2012 05:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Hey guys, I just finished hell mode and I'm starting inferno... and I'm wondering which of the following two armors and shields are better (now that stats *really* matter). I know a lot of people in this thread are a lot more knowledgeable than me in regards to which stats are most important for armor (chance to block, resist all, etc.- but in what order), so I was hoping for some input.

I recognize that my stuff is probably trashy, but I need to make do with what I have for now.

I'm a barbarian with 23K life and 14K damage, over 200 resist all, and in the spoilers are my pairs of armors and shields for comparison. Which should I be using, and why? Hoping for some input; thanks!

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None of those 4 items are really inferno grade.

Look for something like this shield: + Show Spoiler +

with 25% block minimum and level 60 requirement for under 100k.
Look for something like this chest: + Show Spoiler +

that you can fill with vit gems for under 100k. Vit is more expensive to buy on equipment so typically you will always socket vit gems.

When comparing +armor and +all resist, they're of roughly equal value if you multiply the all resist value by 10. So +298 armor is roughly equal to +30 all resist.

A successful block often negates 70-100% of the incoming damage. This makes block chance the primary attribute by which you judge a shield since block value typically goes up as you buy better shields anyway.

T0fuuu

Australia2275 Posts

June 17 2012 00:14 GMT

#12243

Now that all the quests have been nerfed, what is the fastest way to level my 51 barb to 60? Probably going to be doing it solol or duo at most.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

June 17 2012 00:20 GMT

#12244

I'm just starting Inferno on my Barb too and I was able to get a shield that blocks 3.7k damage with 20% block with just + armor as a stat. I forget how much I payed but it was bargain around 30-50k. Nobody wanted it because it didn't have any extra stats, but I still had to really search for that deal. Searching AH for shields with max buyout 100k I see a ton of shields with 3.7k damage block you just need to find ones close to 20% block and then judge how much you want to pay, I wouldn't settle for shields 2.7 or 1.9k dmg block.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 17 2012 00:20 GMT

#12245

Belial still works.

LancerJ

United States160 Posts

June 17 2012 01:19 GMT

#12246

On June 17 2012 09:20 BlackMagister wrote:
I'm just starting Inferno on my Barb too and I was able to get a shield that blocks 3.7k damage with 20% block with just + armor as a stat. I forget how much I payed but it was bargain around 30-50k. Nobody wanted it because it didn't have any extra stats, but I still had to really search for that deal. Searching AH for shields with max buyout 100k I see a ton of shields with 3.7k damage block you just need to find ones close to 20% block and then judge how much you want to pay, I wouldn't settle for shields 2.7 or 1.9k dmg block.

This is bad advice simply for the fact that if you're taking more damage than a 2800-3700 shield (ilvl 62) can reasonably mitigate (say, 70-100% as I noted above) then the problem wasn't with your shield to begin with, you're simply taking too much damage.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

June 17 2012 02:06 GMT

#12247

Hmmm alright. I guess I could use the advice too.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States43775 Posts

June 17 2012 02:21 GMT

#12248

Thank you everyone who responded to my post

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

June 17 2012 02:24 GMT

#12249

On June 17 2012 06:16 Gheizen64 wrote:

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What i meant is that if you have 30% base crit chance, a 45% crit dam increase is a 15% base damage increase, equivalent to 15% ias. Stacking crits is the shit. When you have 30% or more base crits, 60% crit dam amus are about as good as 20% ias wise. That's why i discarded my old 15% ias 150 dex amu long ago for a 59% crit increase for a huge increase in dps AND gold (crit was still way undercosted and ias overcosted). My gloves with +8.5 crits proc +34% are about equivalent to a 25% ias gloves in term of dps.

Well, my bad for not going with the interpretation that makes you intelligent. I understand all this and I just automatically went with the reading consistent with you not understanding it, it's really stupid and arrogant and I apologize.

HoriZoNXI

Australia310 Posts

June 17 2012 02:42 GMT

#12250

My internet cut out as the D3 loading screen was loading and I got this screen

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Steelavocado

United States2123 Posts

June 17 2012 03:02 GMT

#12251

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 17 2012 11:42 HoriZoNXI wrote:
My internet cut out as the D3 loading screen was loading and I got this screen

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Wow I wish this was real. Looks like PvP to me.

Medrea

10003 Posts

June 17 2012 03:12 GMT

#12252

From the man that brought you Inferno Wizard Tanking.

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When wizards were unstoppable invincible tanks.

Now I bring you the next story in this epic saga, which reveals the NEW best tanking class in the game. THE WIZARD.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

June 17 2012 03:56 GMT

#12253

Care to explain how it works?

OoFuzer

Chile436 Posts

June 17 2012 04:00 GMT

#12254

yeah, would be great

Medrea

10003 Posts

June 17 2012 04:19 GMT

#12255

Spectral blade. Force armor. Good gear.

Hydra exploit not necessary.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

June 17 2012 04:23 GMT

#12256

So you just sustain purely off the healing blades rune?

Daria

Australia500 Posts

June 17 2012 04:28 GMT

#12257

Is this game still worth getting? I haven't had the chance to play it at all since release, but since holidays are coming up I'm trying my best to gather up $80 to buy it, but recently it's been receiving lots of negativity... Any suggestions? I don't wanna waste $80 on something that I'm not going to have a good time playing

Parametric

Canada1261 Posts

June 17 2012 04:35 GMT

#12258

On June 17 2012 13:28 Juviax wrote:
Is this game still worth getting? I haven't had the chance to play it at all since release, but since holidays are coming up I'm trying my best to gather up $80 to buy it, but recently it's been receiving lots of negativity... Any suggestions? I don't wanna waste $80 on something that I'm not going to have a good time playing

Wait for a couple patches see if comments on inferno are better.

honed

Canada482 Posts

June 17 2012 04:35 GMT

#12259

get torchlight 2. d3 is awful

User was warned for lack of content in this post.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

June 17 2012 04:37 GMT

#12260

If you have to ask probably not. Action RPGs are the kind of game you either enjoy or you don't...There isn't some middle ground where you play through the game once and think you got your moneys worth in my opinion.

On June 17 2012 13:35 honed wrote:

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get torchlight 2. d3 is awful

Chances are his holiday will have ended by the time Torchlight 2 is released.